How important is appraisal to you crafters?

Just curious because I'm just starting crafting (rank 5 cook) and I'm looking at this and thinking the risk for going bold bold bold isn't as rewarding as the SP reward you get for going standard most the time - atleast with standard you give yourself a better chance of succeeding the synthesis and getting the SP whereas with bold you risk losing quite a bit of durability and losing the synth and SP...on the other hand if you manage to raise your appraisal to a high number is the risk worth *that* reward? Jesus Christ I'm glad I'm not a public speaker cuz looking over this paragraph again I barely understand what I'm even asking buuut I'm sure you guys get the gist of it :P :D

Not at all
it gives you a chance for slightly better material rewards(and you usualy get repair mats) but thats about it

When you are doing Levequests, it is to your advantage to synth a higher quality item. The higher the quality of items you create whilst on Leves, gives you better rewards when you complete the Leve.

Notice, you will get a nutority grade after each item you create. This will go higher each item and is dependant on the quality (if not broken) of the items you make. On a note from that, if you use up ALL the supplies they give you, you will get a better grade. With Leves, you might as well use all they give you to complete the leve, plus the spares they give

Kimiko x

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Originally Posted by chime85

When you are doing Levequests, it is to your advantage to synth a higher quality item. The higher the quality of items you create whilst on Leves, gives you better rewards when you complete the Leve.

Notice, you will get a nutority grade after each item you create. This will go higher each item and is dependant on the quality (if not broken) of the items you make. On a note from that, if you use up ALL the supplies they give you, you will get a better grade. With Leves, you might as well use all they give you to complete the leve, plus the spares they give

Kimiko x

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Yea, sorry I may not have been clear, I know this is the case but I guess my question is: for you, what is more rewarding, the SP gain per synth or the reward you get from higher appraisals - and is the risk worth it? IMO, so far, I much prefer the SP gain and ignore the high appraisal because the rewards just aren't worth it.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Yea, sorry I may not have been clear, I know this is the case but I guess my question is: for you, what is more rewarding, the SP gain per synth or the reward you get from higher appraisals - and is the risk worth it? IMO, so far, I much prefer the SP gain and ignore the high appraisal because the rewards just aren't worth it.

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AAhhh i see! Well in that case, I would often risk the higher grade. However, sometimes with rank levels dont always allow me to do that. Although I would risk it, I wouldn't stupidly risk it, if that makes sense? lol

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Originally Posted by Mack

Yea, sorry I may not have been clear, I know this is the case but I guess my question is: for you, what is more rewarding, the SP gain per synth or the reward you get from higher appraisals - and is the risk worth it? IMO, so far, I much prefer the SP gain and ignore the high appraisal because the rewards just aren't worth it.

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considering the only reward for more appraisal is repair mats

SP all the way, there is no alternative

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

considering the only reward for more appraisal is repair mats

SP all the way, there is no alternative

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This is true for any level craft leve? I'm only doing the baby ones still.

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This is true for any level craft leve? I'm only doing the baby ones still.

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for the most part yes

weaving youll get fent
LW gives you spetches
smithing gives nuggets(which may have a use at least)
alchemy gives you silex(usualy)

and so on


personaly, unless the synth is lower then you and you are doing it for marks only...then yeah get some extra appraisal but not worth it on stuff your doing for sp cuz you usualy dont got alot of room to work with durability wise

OK I'll keep that in mind, thanks, I was leaning towards SP anyway.

Before all the nerfs to crafting quality I would aim to get my appraisal as high as possible because there is a point (nearly unreachable now) where it's very much worth it. But now I don't even bother, just standard spam because even like ~50 higher appraisal won't be very noticable, if at all.

You get slightly more SP, but your SP/time likely goes down because you spend a lot more time trying to get the highest quality possible. In my opinion, it's just not worth it anymore.

I usually just go for the SP since the additional rewards from increased appraisal ratings are somewhat random (and often disappointing?) despite going over 100 or even 200 on the appraisal.

I've read that certain rare materials can be obtained through high appraisal rating on local leves, and once I was trying to get an antelope horn from a Goldsmithing leve based on the rumor. But going over 100 and twice over 200 on appraisal rating for about 6 leve cycles never gave me the item I wanted. ><

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I usually just go for the SP since the additional rewards from increased appraisal ratings are somewhat random (and often disappointing?) despite going over 100 or even 200 on the appraisal.

I've read that certain rare materials can be obtained through high appraisal rating on local leves, and once I was trying to get an antelope horn from a Goldsmithing leve based on the rumor. But going over 100 and twice over 200 on appraisal rating for about 6 leve cycles never gave me the item I wanted. ><

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I got 500 on a armorer leve or 2 and got the same rewards I would have gotten at like 100-200 rating.

Appraisal was more important before they first update local leves, (when we used to have 1-2 less tries) now I don't see a big use for them since you're not very likely to get that much better of a reward and most over 20 leves now give guildmark rewards which aren't that variable.

OK another question for the fishermen, wtf is wrong with fishing and why do i "lose the fish" so many damn times no matter where I fish and how I fish and what bait I use and I even have gathering armor on me to boost my skills. Why is it such a tedious process?? takes forever to get any SP off it unless you're doing leves and those are even a pain in the ass sometimes too.

There's 2 things I look for when doing a craft leve, the SP and the possibility for the guild marks in the reward. Appraisal is the last thing on my mind. Also because of the bold synth nerf a while back (used to have better net gain on bolds all the time) I don't go for quality unless it's a synth outside of a leve I'm making an attempt to HQ for.

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OK another question for the fishermen, wtf is wrong with fishing and why do i "lose the fish" so many damn times no matter where I fish and how I fish and what bait I use and I even have gathering armor on me to boost my skills. Why is it such a tedious process?? takes forever to get any SP off it unless you're doing leves and those are even a pain in the ass sometimes too.

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I believe you hit gathering fatigue. SE has a system where you have an internal counter that reduces every time you gather something, after a point you get reduced gains and can fail more often even if you managed to hit your item.

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

There's 2 things I look for when doing a craft leve, the SP and the possibility for the guild marks in the reward. Appraisal is the last thing on my mind. Also because of the bold synth nerf a while back (used to have better net gain on bolds all the time) I don't go for quality unless it's a synth outside of a leve I'm making an attempt to HQ for.



I believe you hit gathering fatigue. SE has a system where you have an internal counter that reduces every time you gather something, after a point you get reduced gains and can fail more often even if you managed to hit your item.

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or hes using the wrong type of bait

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

or hes using the wrong type of bait

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I'm using lug worms in the ocean, seems trivial to me. Gathering fatigue seems to come quick then? how lame, I hope they get rid of fatigue in every aspect in the game, wut a stupid system.

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Originally Posted by Mack

I'm using lug worms in the ocean, seems trivial to me. Gathering fatigue seems to come quick then? how lame, I hope they get rid of fatigue in every aspect in the game, wut a stupid system.

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what rank are you and where are you fishing, that also has ALOT to do with it if your in an area too soon

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

what rank are you and where are you fishing, that also has ALOT to do with it if your in an area too soon

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Places I'm having trouble at are beginner locales like inside Limsa Lominsa and just outside near Bearded Rock at grade 1 locations. Its honestly trivial and I'm not stupid to overlook something like location and bait :P :P but its driving me insane cuz I really wanna pursue fishing and culinary in this game but fishing is giving me a hard time so far. Even Rank ~1 leves are being a pain in the ass for me.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Just curious because I'm just starting crafting (rank 5 cook) and I'm looking at this and thinking the risk for going bold bold bold isn't as rewarding as the SP reward you get for going standard most the time - atleast with standard you give yourself a better chance of succeeding the synthesis and getting the SP whereas with bold you risk losing quite a bit of durability and losing the synth and SP...on the other hand if you manage to raise your appraisal to a high number is the risk worth *that* reward? Jesus Christ I'm glad I'm not a public speaker cuz looking over this paragraph again I barely understand what I'm even asking buuut I'm sure you guys get the gist of it :P :D

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lol, laughed at that last part

It depends the leve, if its a low enough leve with stuff like toad skin for the reward, I'll go for appraisal. if I'm leveling through the leve, I wont. It can do with more rewards for high scores though.