Take a look at this nonsense

"The maximum expected population limit is nearing for each World, and unless the current World simultaneous connection amount decreases, we are unable to open release the limitation," Yoshida wrote. "In case we do release the limitation, there is a high chance that the corresponding World will crash or cause issues, and we are thinking that it will be difficult for us to release it for a while. We please ask you to consider playing in a World that has a low limitation."

"We are sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause and ask to continue with your cooperation," he said.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/26/465...eborns-irksome

I don't understand why this is nonsense. Seems reasonable to me. SE is asking us, politely mind you, to consider making characters on less populated servers. I don't see what's so wrong with that. They're not forcibly transferring anyone, they're not mandating it, they're simply asking us to consider it. You can argue that the shut down of character creation is a way to forcing us, but even so, I don't understand how you were led to believe this is nonsense. Unless, of course, you don't believe they are having server problems or believe there's an ulterior motive at play here.

Personally, I think they made some miscalculation on the volume of players in the US and EU...compounded with early access being on a weekend...I can completely understand, and even predicted that they would have launch issues. I just wish they would re-implement the queue. I hate having to keep double-clicking my character until I finally am able to logon.

It's nonsense because all NA / EU servers are full and have a limitation in place that forces you to play FF 1017 instead of FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Edge22

It's nonsense because all NA / EU servers are full and have a limitation in place that forces you to play FF 1017 instead of FFXIV

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And that is one tough game to beat, and nearly impossible on multiplayer mode!

All but one of the Japanese Servers was restricted for new characters last night as well. And even after trying to start a new character on that server I got the 1017 error.

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Originally Posted by Trevien

And that is one tough game to beat, and nearly impossible on multiplayer mode!

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See, all of you guys at least know that whenever they pull their heads out of their not-so-cleanly places you can play the game. Try not even being able to register after purchasing.

I saw someone posted a 15 step guide to do it on the PS3(which mind you doesn't work in the first place....) So yup, sucky sucks.

What they need to do is maybe double the amount of servers, and move half the population to the new servers. At this point more people are buying the game and the back log of players not being able to even play is constantly decreasing. Maybe they have enough servers to handle their player base in 4 years. But with this issue those will be the only people sticking with the game, because they were the only ones who have played it. Honestly if I can't even get in long enough to get to lvl 20 (I've been on lvl 19 for 4 days) I feel I may pass on this game all together. I don't want to but the next Final Fantasy game I play from tonight may be FF15. :(

It is nonsense because my friends are playing and have leveled their characters but I can't. I want to play this game but I want to play it with my friends. To say oh well I have to play on another server cause Square can't up the cap of each server is bull to say the least. One of the key reasons to playing an MMO is playing with your friends. Well I guess not on this game. I have live with 2 roommates and we all have to play on different servers cause we want to play but server A which allowed me to play is now full and my other friends can't make characters on my but want to play to.

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Originally Posted by Inceptionnaire

What they need to do is maybe double the amount of servers, and move half the population to the new servers. At this point more people are buying the game and the back log of players not being able to even play is constantly decreasing. Maybe they have enough servers to handle their player base in 4 years. But with this issue those will be the only people sticking with the game, because they were the only ones who have played it. Honestly if I can't even get in long enough to get to lvl 20 (I've been on lvl 19 for 4 days) I feel I may pass on this game all together. I don't want to but the next Final Fantasy game I play from tonight may be FF15. :(

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If this doesn't get resolved soon the next Final Fantasy game I play will be... Ebaying all the ones I currently own. Wildstar and Elder Scrolls are both set to release soon enough and there are other Single Player RPG's that I can enjoy as well, either that I can stick to table top games.

So let me get this right.....people would rather have the entire server crash because so many people trying to get it then limiting connection so at least some people can play?......and that makes sense to people?

I have to wonder about the leadership and direction of this company I admit. After releasing the first walking disaster - they realized it and apologized all over themselves about it. (Jeez, even the CEO apologized a bunch which is apparently a big deal in Japan.) So, they do this in order to appease the fans right? They say - We will make a better game, just wait for it. And a year or something later - they deliver!

But .. wait a minute ... sure. They delivered a great new game, but at least 1/3 of the *potential/real* subscribers can't even play? Why? Because they didn't consider server load at peak times. *sigh*

So my understanding is that they *could* let more people online but it would compromise their gaming experience (latency/crash/etc.) but have instead elected to restrict the number of people able to login to a server. Man, those are both horrible choices.

Didn't they consider this possibility at all? What about some sort of backup plan? Say like renting a bank of 100 servers at Google's hard-drive farm to serve up the game in the temporary peak period. I'm sure they are thinking that this is just the peak and that people will bleed off (like every MMO).

*sigh* ... I really just wanted to be able to play the damn game.

*rip up sub*

*walk away*

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So let me get this right.....people would rather have the entire server crash because so many people trying to get it then limiting connection so at least some people can play?......and that makes sense to people?

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Not at all. The last thing we want is more crashes. what they need is a bunch more servers, Free server transfer(at least for the first month or so), a visual population(a ticker or something), Or just transfer you to a different server when your main is full(just as a temp). Planetside 2 has a function where if you want to go to a new continent, which are on new servers, you are put can play in another server while on the queue for said server. You can still play while waiting to join your buddies on a different server.

Problem solved

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-Queue-System <--- ive set a petition system up to try to get squeenix to listen to there playerbase. If we can get just even the login system working better that would be a great start to overall server stability

And besides, when a game nears it's server capacity, they usually install more servers to handle all the incoming players. More servers = more players = more money = successful Square

nah... booting afk will actually take work... and most importantly, it may help things. So that's a definite no-no! No way SE would ever do that!

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Originally Posted by Alienman

"The maximum expected population limit is nearing for each World, and unless the current World simultaneous connection amount decreases, we are unable to open release the limitation," Yoshida wrote. "In case we do release the limitation, there is a high chance that the corresponding World will crash or cause issues, and we are thinking that it will be difficult for us to release it for a while. We please ask you to consider playing in a World that has a low limitation."

"We are sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause and ask to continue with your cooperation," he said.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/26/465...eborns-irksome

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This one has played MMOs since EverQuest, not a one has had a solid error-free launch, be patient and the issue will resolve. With 3 million people trying to play a MMO SE billeted a tenth of that for, it is going to cause some major issues. Be patient, be courteous and all will be well in Eorzea.

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Problem solved

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I agree fully. Some people on desktops leave the game running so they never get locked out. they really only have to worry about maintenance. lets say everyone playing, really really wanted to avoid log in problems and stayed logged in 24/7. No other player would ever be able to play unless square adds more servers. Even then they would have to make completely fresh characters. Goodbye Lvl45 Monk :(

it would be great if there was any way to know witch servers are empty/full... there is no indication in the interface and unless you go trying server by server you may as well just be creating a character in a full server or a soon to be full server >.<

unless ofc you go play on the jp servers, then you will have no problem at all. they just cant get it right on the NA/EU servers apparently.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

This one has played MMOs since EverQuest, not a one has had a solid error-free launch, be patient and the issue will resolve. With 3 million people trying to play a MMO SE billeted a tenth of that for, it is going to cause some major issues. Be patient, be courteous and all will be well in Eorzea.

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sorry but even the most bumpy launch i have seem so far did not choose to lock a good portion of its player base out of the game and with the only, the easiest, solution to just close the doors and serve the players their poor servers can handle. any smaller company would probably be handling this better at this point. anyone in this genre would know that you need to have back up plans for your server capacity, they had the data about sales, they have made 2 mmos prior to this, they are a BIG company with a ton more resources then most of their competitors and yet they doesnt seem to know how to prepare for a mmo launch.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

This one has played MMOs since EverQuest, not a one has had a solid error-free launch, be patient and the issue will resolve. With 3 million people trying to play a MMO SE billeted a tenth of that for, it is going to cause some major issues. Be patient, be courteous and all will be well in Eorzea.

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We rant because we care. If the community throws out enough good ideas. Square may find an answer they didn't think of.

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We rant because we care. If the community throws out enough good ideas. Square may find an answer they didn't think of.

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wich is exactly what im doing lol. Ive got a nice petition going on thats got a pretty nice following so far, If we get enough signatures maybe just maybe it will drive square into pressing matters a little bit more for the player. After all, in a sense as paying customers, we are what keeps them going and without us they dont have anything ----> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-Queue-System <----

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Originally Posted by Yuichi

So let me get this right.....people would rather have the entire server crash because so many people trying to get it then limiting connection so at least some people can play?......and that makes sense to people?

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It's called a "QUEUE" and yes we want a working one. All MMO's with a large player base have a "working" queue, so that the servers don't crash and the players that want to get in can wait in a queue. Currently you have to shit around spamming the multi-step login just to get in game.

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Originally Posted by Yuichi

So let me get this right.....people would rather have the entire server crash because so many people trying to get it then limiting connection so at least some people can play?......and that makes sense to people?

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You need to look up the definition of queue. Not being hostile, but I think you're missing the point of the OP's post.

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I don't understand why this is nonsense. Seems reasonable to me. SE is asking us, politely mind you, to consider making characters on less populated servers. I don't see what's so wrong with that. They're not forcibly transferring anyone, they're not mandating it, they're simply asking us to consider it. You can argue that the shut down of character creation is a way to forcing us, but even so, I don't understand how you were led to believe this is nonsense. Unless, of course, you don't believe they are having server problems or believe there's an ulterior motive at play here.

Personally, I think they made some miscalculation on the volume of players in the US and EU...compounded with early access being on a weekend...I can completely understand, and even predicted that they would have launch issues. I just wish they would re-implement the queue. I hate having to keep double-clicking my character until I finally am able to logon.

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First question, how do we know which are less populated? Oh wait we don't.

Second question, how in the name of the mother fluffing flying spaghetti monster do you launch an MMO that isn't able to handle even a small portion of it's launch sales?

The problem I see most of the "just make more servers and dump players over there" is ... people play with friends/family/guildmates. Guess what the flashback is going to be when they get split up forcibly.

Also -- unless the world servers were designed by idiots, they should be able to make the server *cluster* more robust by scaling in more servers to support *that* world. At worst, then you end up with multiple instances of a zone and you may have to jump around a little to sync up with your groups.

I don't get the impression some of the defenders and apologists actually understand the physicality and structure of network clusters.

... some hardware company somewhere is gonna make a bundle on delivering a rush order of a huge number of server blades, I betcha. :)



UPDATE September 20, 2013 - Yay! I have had NO login problems this past week (except during times when servers were down for maintenance, which is to be expected.)
Yippee!

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The problem I see most of the "just make more servers and dump players over there" is ... people play with friends/family/guildmates. Guess what the flashback is going to be when they get split up forcibly.

Also -- unless the world servers were designed by idiots, they should be able to make the server *cluster* more robust by scaling in more servers to support *that* world. At worst, then you end up with multiple instances of a zone and you may have to jump around a little to sync up with your groups.

I don't get the impression some of the defenders and apologists actually understand the physicality and structure of network clusters.

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What we mean is to create a few overflow servers. just temporary worlds to at least play in, while you wait in a queue for the world you and your friends/family/guildmates want. I used Planetside 2 as an example. You can play, while in a queue for a specific continent on a specific server.