This is getting REAL RIDICULOUS...

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08-25-2013, 05:25 AM
Skycl

This is getting REAL RIDICULOUS...

If i paid this 40$ to play early access, i supposed. I heard that there are so many LUCKY bastards who can play since 3:00 am.. they are way ahead than all of us. I'm extremely jealous. I'm still receiving this 3108 error! I havent gotten email from SE for 1 day and half. What am i gonna do? if early access is over and they stole my 40$ on purpose or what. how do i fix this? do i have to pre-order again and get new code? or create new char on account 2, account 1 is broken, wont let me in. I dont see my beta character in account 2, sounds like i have to remake char but i dont want to.. i have 3 lvl 20s took a while to level. Only acct 1 is broken but acct 2 is working but my 3 lvl 20s is on acct 1.. this makes no sense.
08-25-2013, 05:31 AM
Arikaen

You paid $40 for a game that comes out Tuesday and got to play it early for free. Why do you have 2 accounts you only need 1. And once you get the game you paid $40 to play for a month which is still cheaper than paying $60 for 10 hours like most games that come out.
08-25-2013, 05:38 AM
Dantas

"got to play it early for free"
I can't stand this kind of answer
08-25-2013, 05:52 AM
Shabibbles

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Originally Posted by Dantas

"got to play it early for free"
I can't stand this kind of answer

AKA. Can't stand the right answer.
08-25-2013, 05:55 AM
HaunteR

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Originally Posted by Arikaen

You paid $40 for a game that comes out Tuesday and got to play it early for free. Why do you have 2 accounts you only need 1. And once you get the game you paid $40 to play for a month which is still cheaper than paying $60 for 10 hours like most games that come out.

Play for free "What"?

The INCENTIVE to PRE-ORDER IS Early Access. As far as I'm concerned the game comes out TODAY!
08-25-2013, 05:59 AM
Jason33w

Please, someone, give me an example of any other MMO that had a flawless launch? I'm not sure people realize how much more of a complex launch this is in comparison to other MMO's. I know we all paid to play this, I get it! I can't get in either. But don't be so naive to think that they are not doing everything they can to provide us the service we paid for. Give 'em a chance.
08-25-2013, 06:04 AM
surrel

Pre-order bonuses are just that...bonuses. You aren't paying extra for them so it's free. It's just an incentive for you to pre-order the game. While yea, it sucks you're missing out on an incentive, you're still getting what you paid for in the end, the actual copy of the game.
08-25-2013, 06:05 AM
Arikaen

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Originally Posted by HaunteR

Play for free "What"?

The INCENTIVE to PRE-ORDER IS Early Access. As far as I'm concerned the game comes out TODAY!

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/ as the site says on sale August 27th 2013.
Last I checked it was August 24 2013. So your free to be wrong all you want.
08-25-2013, 06:14 AM
ErisBatt

Sorry to jump in, but I thought the point of preordering things was to ensure you get them on the release date. And that the bonus freebies are just a sort of thanks for ordering it.

I mean... had you waited a couple more daysfrom today, it would still be the exact same price.
08-25-2013, 07:28 AM
EvianEverdeen

Don't worry OP, you're not missing anything. As far as many are concerned, this game is still a beta and in no way reflects final release quality.
08-25-2013, 07:32 AM
Arikaen

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

Don't worry OP, you're not missing anything. As far as many are concerned, this game is still a beta and in no way reflects final release quality.

Thats not entirely true either. This is the final product unfortunately with the scope of the game and all that they did in such a short amount of time the bugs are going to be there. They will be there after release too. You have to understand that a bug is just a mess up in the code and in a game like this there could be billions of lines od code. Unfortunately a messed up part at line 2 could screw up something at line 122222989. And going through a book of code that is thicker than a freaking novel is not an easy job. I think they have done a great job but there will be bugs and problems probably up to a month or two after release. Even WoW still gets problems and has to go through maintenance and look how long thats been around.
08-25-2013, 08:29 AM
Dantas

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Originally Posted by Shabibbles

AKA. Can't stand the right answer.

So you felt the urge to post for the first time only to quote my post. Fair enough.
What I actually mean is that you can't simply hide everything under the carpet and say "it's all good since it's free". This is absolutely not the point here. This Early Access thing is not a favor; SE's purpose isn't demonstrating affection. EA is a bonus product, a part of a whole imbued in the package itself. There are people who pre-ordered only to play earlier . Although bonus days aren't a service itself, it holds a marketing potencial. Remember that usually a game's price has a 'free' month too, meaning you're buying an experience, a promise, and if the means don't match the ending, the cash you invested is totally gone, since you're not willing to use that product again (even if you change your mind later, you gonna need more cash).

So please, it is extremely understandable why people are so upset. But I can't really get this urge to defend the game at any cost. Believe me, you're not enjoying your access for free. And believe me twice, I really loved the game and I had no trouble at all myself, but I feel the pain others are experiencing.
08-25-2013, 08:35 AM
Skyl1n3

It's a new game launch so it's bound to having some primary teething problems, worst case scenario you lose maybe 1 day of early access time, you still have another 2 days before tons of other people get to play it.
08-25-2013, 08:53 AM
Kamina33

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Originally Posted by Jason33w

Please, someone, give me an example of any other MMO that had a flawless launch? I'm not sure people realize how much more of a complex launch this is in comparison to other MMO's. I know we all paid to play this, I get it! I can't get in either. But don't be so naive to think that they are not doing everything they can to provide us the service we paid for. Give 'em a chance.

Yeah. A community rep even apologized earlier for all the problems we were having. No need for him to do that after giving us the standard update, but he did.
I haven't been able to sign in at all and have been up since 12:00am hoping for a miracle that probably isn't going to happen 'till Mon., but I know they're trying not to disappoint and will comp us accordingly. That's enough for me.

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Originally Posted by Dantas

So you felt the urge to post for the first time only to quote my post. Fair enough.
What I actually mean is that you can't simply hide everything under the carpet and say "it's all good since it's free". This is absolutely not the point here. This Early Access thing is not a favor; SE's purpose isn't demonstrating affection. EA is a bonus product, a part of a whole imbued in the package itself. There are people who pre-ordered only to play earlier . Although bonus days aren't a service itself, it holds a marketing potencial. Remember that usually a game's price has a 'free' month too, meaning you're buying an experience, a promise, and if the means don't match the ending, the cash you invested is totally gone, since you're not willing to use that product again (even if you change your mind later, you gonna need more cash).

So please, it is extremely understandable why people are so upset. But I can't really get this urge to defend the game at any cost. Believe me, you're not enjoying your access for free. And believe me twice, I really loved the game and I had no trouble at all myself, but I feel the pain others are experiencing.

This was really well put, I completely agree. Even though it would be pretty difficult to dissuade me from playing this game regardless of the amount of potential problems in the foreseeable future (BIG fan), all your points are solid, and people understandably have a right to be upset.
08-25-2013, 08:56 AM
SethLex

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Originally Posted by Dantas

So you felt the urge to post for the first time only to quote my post. Fair enough.
What I actually mean is that you can't simply hide everything under the carpet and say "it's all good since it's free". This is absolutely not the point here. This Early Access thing is not a favor; SE's purpose isn't demonstrating affection. EA is a bonus product, a part of a whole imbued in the package itself. [snip]

Oh, thank you, Random-Divine-Being, for someone who can actually think for himself and then express their thoughts in a coherent, logical and non-monosyllabic fashion! Sir/Madam, I applaud you and your presence on this planet.