SE should only have released FFXIV in Japan

I feel that SE should have released FFXIV in Japan only like they did with the FFXIV release. There are 2 benefits - firstly, they would have a player base who provides constructive criticism whereas the Americans are known for whining. Secondly, if it fails in Japan only, then the reputational damage is not as bad as a global release.

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Originally Posted by Hippo

I feel that SE should have released FFXIV in Japan only like they did with the FFXIV release. There are 2 benefits - firstly, they would have a player base who provides constructive criticism whereas the Americans are known for whining. Secondly, if it fails in Japan only, then the reputational damage is not as bad as a global release.

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This thread is really constructive. Now all we need is a time machine.

It's pointless to discuss since we can't change anything now

I'm happy that I get the chance to play now. Not all Americans are known for whining. >.>

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Originally Posted by Hippo

I feel that SE should have released FFXIV in Japan only like they did with the FFXIV release. There are 2 benefits - firstly, they would have a player base who provides constructive criticism whereas the Americans are known for whining. Secondly, if it fails in Japan only, then the reputational damage is not as bad as a global release.

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I forgot the the world consisted of just Japan and America. Thanks for the reminder.

ope the world consist of America, OPEC countries, and rest, which includes japan

I understand what you mean OP. However there are many Americans that are not whiners but hard working people willing to fix a problem. America is seen in a negative light(or full of fat lazy complainers) because of a minority. As much as I could argue against my people I would be lying if I said we are a bunch of grown babies waiting for a bottle.

SE probably should have released it only in Japan but that would have also hindered the outsiders(that wanted to) from seeing the evolution first hand. They could have released it and left it as an open beta since it's obvious nothing in this game is working at 100%.

edit: Even the graphics(the best thing in the game) needs to be fixed/tweaked. The shadow details look ugly unless you have it on the highest setting. Standard can leave you with black stripes on the body.

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America is seen in a negative light(or full of fat lazy complainers) because of a minority.

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I don't think the reason why America is seen in a negative light is because people think they are lazy whiners.

Quite the opposite really.

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Originally Posted by Hippo

I feel that SE should have released FFXIV in Japan only like they did with the FFXIV release. There are 2 benefits - firstly, they would have a player base who provides constructive criticism whereas the Americans are known for whining. Secondly, if it fails in Japan only, then the reputational damage is not as bad as a global release.

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I totally disagree with your opinion, I believe they did the right thing to publish and gather feedbacks from all of us and not just Japaneses. This game is aimed at all of us, not just Japaneses.

And like it was mentioned in previous posts, isn't this kind of thread pointless now? It would be better to focus your efforts on constructive criticisms now.

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Originally Posted by Lamhirh

ope the world consist of America, OPEC countries, and rest, which includes japan

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Says who ?

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

I don't think the reason why America is seen in a negative light is because people think they are lazy whiners.

Quite the opposite really.

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There are many different views of America, its populace, and its government. Some look at us as lazy while others feel we impose into other countries affairs too much(along with other views from other countries). I however decided to respond based off of the sight of Americans always complaining(which is sometimes accompanied with us being seen as lazy) when I read the OP.

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Originally Posted by Hippo

they would have a player base who provides constructive criticism whereas the Americans are known for whining.

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Aren't Japanese players supposed to play a less lot to MMOs than EU and US players?

They are making a MMO, they want to play in the MMO market, so they need constructive feedback from MMO players. They should have made a real beta-test with real forums and listened to their players. Then they would have realized they needed at least one more year of work before releasing.

I would state my opinion, but I'm a EU player, so I don't think it counts for the OP lol

Japan release only? I don't think so - yeah, the damage is done, but I am happy to be here now so I can see first hand the changes it goes through till it becomes a fantastic game.

I agree to a small extent but then I disagree at the same time. Main reason is because it wouldn't have been declared such a failure by the reviews if it was released in Japan first but I disagree in the way the game would have turned out. Look at the player polls and the what the Japanese players like compared to the American/Euro's is way different.

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Originally Posted by Sinzfeldt

I forgot the the world consisted of just Japan and America. Thanks for the reminder.

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With our powers combined, we are - CAPTAIN PLANET!


...in case the earth needs us to fight off the Chinese.

The problem isn't that they should have only released it in japan, it's that they shouldn't have released it at all when they did... The game needs more time in development, which is basically what's going on now.

If you judge it as a full complete game, it leaves a lot to be desired... But imo, if you consider it a work in progress, I think it's well on it's way to being the best mmo around. Aside from just needing more content, what they do with the class and combat systems will really determine the games future, as the content and more tweaks are inevitable, but this is probably the only time they will overhaul such fundamental mechanics as those in such a drastic way. Sure hope they make the most of it, definitely don't want them to rush it.

I'm Spanish, and it seems I'm not part of the World.

I'll try to make a trip to America or Japan, to play FFXIV, because it seems it has not been released here... xD

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Originally Posted by Nipa

Aren't Japanese players supposed to play a less lot to MMOs than EU and US players?

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Says who? Lots of Japanese people play MMOs.

The PR wouldn't have been as bad, so that's a yes, but it's generally hated around the world, so it wouldn't have changed the result, so a no.

The easier answer would have been to not make it a crappy game.

Then we would have had to hear about the crappy Japan reviews and not been able to play, agonizing on the side lines while Japan could at least run around the world if anything. Just like in FFXI.. I knew the reviews were bad then too, but I still wanted to play....

Like kukurumei said, it would have been a better idea to just not release it yet and do so when the game had more meat to it. I still can't believe they released with only quest leves and main plot missions..... ><;;

I agree with Cendres. I would have hated if they did a Japan release only. It's nice the option to play if we want instead of hear about it, not to mention it is free.

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Originally Posted by Hippo

I feel that SE should have released FFXIV in Japan only like they did with the FFXIV release. There are 2 benefits - firstly, they would have a player base who provides constructive criticism whereas the Americans are known for whining. Secondly, if it fails in Japan only, then the reputational damage is not as bad as a global release.

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I'd bet anything you've never lived in another country before for an extended period of time. You stink of ignorance.

Funny cause after reading the JP forums it would seem we whine equally and about the same things. They are just more respectful and mire organized instead of 10 separate threads all discussing the best way to wrangle a chocobo.

Translation: I fail to see your point.

Cool thread, bookmarking for future enlightenment should I stray from the correct path.

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Originally Posted by YUGON

I'm Spanish, and it seems I'm not part of the World.

I'll try to make a trip to America or Japan, to play FFXIV, because it seems it has not been released here... xD

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Lol Yugon, yeah, i wonder where i bought my copy here in Spain too.

Now, picture this, EU players buying through the net as old XI and using NA accounts. Because if anyone wondered... NA account costed 12,95$ in monthly fee and EU is 12,95€. OH WAIT! € & $ doesn't have the same value!!

They should've spent more time in Alpha.

They should've spent more time in Beta, etc, etc.

Too bad we can't go back in time and fix that, such a shame, guess we're going to just fix what's in the present, etc. Besides, I really would rather they just stick with simultaneous release, rather than making it initially Japan only. With the name Final Fantasy, that sort if idea wouldn't fly really well as it did back then.

Besides, even if they did stick with Japanese only. How many people would try to get into the game, and we would still have a lot of complaining and problem on our hands...just not as much as we see now. Personally I'd rather not see the repeat of history that FFXi suffered because Japan had a year headstart ahead of us.