Question about classes, 2nd jobs and levelling

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06-26-2013, 05:45 PM
CrystalW

Question about classes, 2nd jobs and levelling

Hey,

I'm not sure if this was answered before but I tried to search on the forum and couldn't find the answer.

So as we know, when they implemented jobs, our class level was the job's level. But what will it be in the future for the second jobs?

If one levels Arcanist, will they have both Summoner and Scholar levelled (which would be quite boring). Will we have to choose one of the jobs and level the other from lv.1? Or will we have to level both of them, separately from Arcanist or something (improbable considering they gave our job its class's level)?

Thanks
06-26-2013, 06:17 PM
Fantasia

Yes, both jobs will have the class' level. Which is my main gripe about this system. People say "yeah, but jobs are levelled horizontally through questing" but that takes about 30 minutes to do them all.

Your best bet is thinking of jobs as different "modes" of the same class. Like SMN = DD ACN and SCH = Healer ACN. It's the only thing keeping me going to be honest!
06-26-2013, 06:20 PM
CrystalW

Oh ok, was hoping to be able to level two jobs :/ Might be a little confusing to learn both jobs' abilities
06-26-2013, 07:01 PM
Millerna

I see it pretty much like a talent tree in other games really, just less advanced for now. You level a base class, and then you pick which specialisation you want. Switching to a different job for the same class is sort of a free talent-tree re-spec idea, or multi-spec system.

There will also be new classes most likely, considering there's a variety of jobs that would be hard to implement using the current classes.
06-26-2013, 07:16 PM
Zenaku

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millerna

I see it pretty much like a talent tree in other games really, just less advanced for now. You level a base class, and then you pick which specialisation you want. Switching to a different job for the same class is sort of a free talent-tree re-spec idea, or multi-spec system.

There will also be new classes most likely, considering there's a variety of jobs that would be hard to implement using the current classes.

It seem hard for people to understand the idea behind jobs when i first saw them i'm like oh it's like wow tree system. I really do wish SE explain things better but i guess that hard to do every single time.
06-26-2013, 07:26 PM
CrystalW

It's true it does make more sense if you view it like a talent tree. I just viewed jobs as "advanced jobs" since I thought of them, in some aspects, as in FFXI's unlockable jobs
06-26-2013, 08:51 PM
indira

class you level, job is just a piece of armor that opens up more skills.
you dont level jobs there a piece of equipment.
as simple as i can put it.
06-27-2013, 04:59 AM
Ouchmaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by indira

class you level, job is just a piece of armor that opens up more skills.
you dont level jobs there a piece of equipment.
as simple as i can put it.

This sounds spot on.
06-27-2013, 05:58 AM
Spy

I thought this video did a decent job of explaining things. (Even if some of his pronunciations are a bit weird to me)
06-27-2013, 08:17 AM
Orophin

Can't believe people would be sad about NOT having to level something. I'm all for going through the story and quests and stuff, but once I run out and I have only the slower means of leveling left available to me, I'm not looking forward to grinding out those levels, let alone if I had to do it 9 more times for the jobs.
06-27-2013, 02:23 PM
Zenaku

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spy

I thought this video did a decent job of explaining things. (Even if some of his pronunciations are a bit weird to me)

I feel that video is not helpful you don't really need to be the right god/race to be best at your class. The stats a race give you is so low in different it does not matter. Everything else is pretty good tho :0 so good info on the rest.
06-27-2013, 03:13 PM
kimoi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantasia

but that takes about 30 minutes to do them all.

How would you know? Nobody has done the 2.0 job quests yet.
06-27-2013, 05:02 PM
Yrusama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantasia

Your best bet is thinking of jobs as different "modes" of the same class. Like SMN = DD ACN and SCH = Healer ACN. It's the only thing keeping me going to be honest!

You quite literally "equip" a job crystal.
06-28-2013, 12:17 AM
Deli

:O someone tells him quick that whm right now can only take skills from cnj.
so I think to unlock whm need 30 cnj 15 arc. no more gla
so is blm
06-28-2013, 04:32 PM
CrystalW

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orophin

Can't believe people would be sad about NOT having to level something. I'm all for going through the story and quests and stuff, but once I run out and I have only the slower means of leveling left available to me, I'm not looking forward to grinding out those levels, let alone if I had to do it 9 more times for the jobs.

That's because I already have all Disciples of war and magic at 50 so I would have liked to experience the new system a little more
06-28-2013, 05:18 PM
Millerna

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrystalW

That's because I already have all Disciples of war and magic at 50 so I would have liked to experience the new system a little more

Fairly certain your arcanist isn't 50 yet ;)
06-30-2013, 03:14 AM
CrystalW

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millerna

Fairly certain your arcanist isn't 50 yet ;)

That's why I said "a little more"... 2 jobs rather than just 1. Would have been nice to be able to completely experience both jobs from 1 till 50, to learn how to play them better rather than have to switch jobs around while levelling or learn one of them at 50.