Roegadyn Dictionary

Finally something I'm willing to fill my CE log with. Going to copy these down, practice writing them in eorzea font, and make my own Roegadyn to English dictionary. ^_^

Thank you Ferne for all this work.

Just to make my post a bit more interesting and less waste of forum space, I have a question about Roegadyn Names.
Are there any rules with names like: Only the first name can be a verb? or The last name can never be an adjective?

omg the CE diary I forgot it existed! XD lol

The Roeg dictionary is full of win!

Thank you for the question, Lady Purrsalot (awesome name, btw).

As most of the names the Roegadyn use will follow a pattern of an noun proceeded by a word which modifies it, you'll find that the most common combinations are ones like the following:

Adjective + Noun -> Green Sausage (Grynewyrst)
Noun + Noun -> Aurochs Sausage (Urswyrst)
Verb (ing) + Noun -> Fighting Sausage (Fehtnwyrst)

The noun form of verbs also are used in the second half of names

Noun + Verb (er) -> Sausage Bringer (Wyrstleita)
Adjective (flat adverb) + Verb (ing) -> Fast Fighting (quickly fighting) (Holskfehtn)


As the Sea Wolves do not actually use the old language outside of names (and haven't for hundreds of years), a lot of the grammatical rules have been forgotten...or in some cases adapted (as a result of the actual rules being forgotten). If a Roegadyn father, on his son's naming day, wishes to name him "Make Sausage" (instead of the more popular "Sausage Maker"), then the son would become Byldwyrst (and would probably be scarred for life), and no one could object.

Hope that helps!

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

If a Roegadyn father, on his son's naming day, wishes to name him "Make Sausage" (instead of the more popular "Sausage Maker"), then the son would become Byldwyrst (and would probably be scarred for life), and no one could object.

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Best example.

In Roegadyn culture, the son is named by their father: Check!

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Thank you for the question, Lady Purrsalot (awesome name, btw).

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thanks! /blush

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

As most of the names the Roegadyn use will follow a pattern of an noun proceeded by a word which modifies it, you'll find that the most common combinations are ones like the following:

Adjective + Noun -> Green Sausage (Grynewyrst)
Noun + Noun -> Aurochs Sausage (Urswyrst)
Verb (ing) + Noun -> Fighting Sausage (Fehtnwyrst)

The noun form of verbs also are used in the second half of names

Noun + Verb (er) -> Sausage Bringer (Wyrstleita)
Adjective (flat adverb) + Verb (ing) -> Fast Fighting (quickly fighting) (Holskfehtn)


As the Sea Wolves do not actually use the old language outside of names (and haven't for hundreds of years), a lot of the grammatical rules have been forgotten...or in some cases adapted (as a result of the actual rules being forgotten). If a Roegadyn father, on his son's naming day, wishes to name him "Make Sausage" (instead of the more popular "Sausage Maker"), then the son would become Byldwyrst (and would probably be scarred for life), and no one could object.

Hope that helps!

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And thank you for this too! Going to have to make an alt Roegadyn and name him Fehtnwyrst now!

I wish all the answers to lore questions would get added (along with the quoted question) to the stickied lore topics :x

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I wish all the answers to lore questions would get added (along with the quoted question) to the stickied lore topics :x

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Fusionx over at GamerEscape created a type of blog tag called The Lore Train once upon a time...

http://gamerescape.com/wp-content/up...loretrain2.png
AND OF COURSE IT FEATURES A RIDICULOUS(LY AWESOME) AHRIMAN IMAGE
(Why would it not?)

If you guys want, we might be able to swing keeping an eye on dev posts in this forum and putting out a periodic lore train post via GE with "everything we've learned this week" or whatever.

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If you guys want, we might be able to swing keeping an eye on dev posts in this forum and putting out a periodic lore train post via GE with "everything we've learned this week" or whatever.

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Oh! :eek: Wonderful idea. Either a blog or a thread here in the Lore sub-forum with reserved & updated posts on the first page. That is, if we can't /poke a Ferne or two into doing that for us :3

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I wish all the answers to lore questions would get added (along with the quoted question) to the stickied lore topics :x

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Looks like it got buried, but I mentioned HERE about eventually getting all these additional naming tidbits popping up in individual threads added to the stickies. I may need a bit more time, as translation/localization work for ARR's release is ramping up, but it will happen. Until then, I leave you in the able hands of the fine lads at GamerEscape. (And yeah, that ridiculously awesome ahriman is ridiculously awesome)

What if the father passes before the child is born?
Does the mother just give the name?
Are they damned to roam the land as a nameless freak?

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Looks like it got buried, but I mentioned HERE about eventually getting all these additional naming tidbits popping up in individual threads added to the stickies. I may need a bit more time, as translation/localization work for ARR's release is ramping up, but it will happen. Until then, I leave you in the able hands of the fine lads at GamerEscape. (And yeah, that ridiculously awesome ahriman is ridiculously awesome)

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Yay! Indeed missed that post o.o Good to know, thank you! All of this has got me really excited and I cannot wait for ARR release to dive into some heavy reading of NPC text >.< /psyyych POP! *burst of excitement*

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Looks like it got buried, but I mentioned HERE about eventually getting all these additional naming tidbits popping up in individual threads added to the stickies. I may need a bit more time, as translation/localization work for ARR's release is ramping up, but it will happen. Until then, I leave you in the able hands of the fine lads at GamerEscape. (And yeah, that ridiculously awesome ahriman is ridiculously awesome)

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Thanks Fern! :) It's quite a detailed world you're having us document - but that's what we love to do!

While many of the specific posts from Fern might not be exactly mirrored at GE (although some are in the form of news posts), we are certainly referencing them in the wiki Lore summaries and will certainly eventually be adding the naming convention information to the race pages, etc.

EDIT: OP - btw I would suggest that the Roegadyn Dictionary be added to the wiki (vs. elsewhere). It not only just fits there naturally, but think it will benefit from being able to be linked to Roegadyn NPC names and/or quest text for citations and examples.

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EDIT: OP - btw I would suggest that the Roegadyn Dictionary be added to the wiki (vs. elsewhere). It not only just fits there naturally, but think it will benefit from being able to be linked to Roegadyn NPC names and/or quest text for citations and examples.

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I was just going to write it in that blank log book they gave us in the collector's edition package. If it turns out to be anything decent, I will gladly add it to the wiki. (unless someone else with better skills wants to do this) ^_^

If the info gets into the wiki there are plenty of people who can pretty it up.

So I'm innocently translating Roegadyn names for the fun of it. (makes work go by faster) And I come to the name:
Storm Private Klinmoersyn

Now correct me if I'm wrong but...First I notice the "syn" on the end so its going to be "Son of", then the rest is:
Klin = Child
Moer = Kill

Son of Child Kill O_O That's a morbid name lol....

Could we request an expansion to the Roegadyn dictionary, please? Particularly words like "seeker", and "keeper" (and/or anything related to the races, really).

Serious Question:

Many of the Roegadyn names are seriously long and have lots of consonants making them harder to spell/retype on the fly.

Examples: Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn
Aermswys Cwaenskyltwyn

Are we at a disadvantage for party invites if party leaders have to retype our names? Or will we have a system in game that allows them to easily select and add us to their party/ls/company...etc. How often will people need to actually type: Aermswys Cwaenskyltwyn?

I mean, I really like the F. Sea Wolf characters (more than my lalafell!), and would like to consider keeping an authentic name....but I also don't want to be a pain to my friends or get overlooked simply because people don't wish to even attempt to spell my name.

Anyway, this is all helpful to know while we have the time to plan and play with the dictionary and potential names.

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Last I heard they were making it so that you could click the names of speakers in the chatlog to accomplish actions like that.

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Last I heard they were making it so that you could click the names of speakers in the chatlog to accomplish actions like that.

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But your name would still need to be in their chatlog to do it....meaning more than likely, they had to at some point type 'Aermswys Cwaenskyltwyn'

Or what about a friend who just wants to send you a /t ....will the game still remember our names in the auto-translate dictionary?

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But your name would still need to be in their chatlog to do it....meaning more than likely, they had to at some point type 'Aermswys Cwaenskyltwyn'

Or what about a friend who just wants to send you a /t ....will the game still remember our names in the auto-translate dictionary?

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Your name will also be in their chat log, like if you shout "R50 WHM lfp" or if you send them a tell first, or what-have-you. You could also click on people to send tells and stuff in v1, so that'll probably still be in, so it won't be an issue if you're right in front of them.

Only time it could be a problem is if they want to initiate contact with you without you having spoken to them first, in which case they obviously already know you. And if they've added you to their friends list, I think they'll be able to click from there too ^^

Hasn't been any word on if the auto-translate remembering some players will still work or not, to my knowledge.