Hair Color and "Meshing"?

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02-08-2013, 04:52 AM
Bowen

Hair Color and "Meshing"?

So, earlier Reinheart translated this:

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Previously reps said we choose our hair color from 192 color selection. Now Triairy confirming you can do the same for skin/eyes/hair mesh.

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Originally Posted by Triairy

Hello,

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Originally Posted by kappa

We're planning to increase the available colors for hair up to 192 colors......
Would be nice if you can add the color you like to different parts.
Also for the ver 1.x Lalafel (This char) I carefully picked the color.

At current stage we are planning to be able to have 192 colors for the skin, eyes, hair, and mesh :)

I was wondering what exactly this meant. Would we be allowed to color different areas of the hair and skin? If so, I would like that very much. What do y'all think?
02-08-2013, 04:59 AM
Wolfie

It's probably your highlight, which is what you had in 1.0 as well.
02-08-2013, 05:12 AM
Asael

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

It's probably your highlight, which is what you had in 1.0 as well.

I would hope so... Having a bunch of hot neon pink skin colored jackasses running around would ruin immersion.
02-08-2013, 05:16 AM
Kirito

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Originally Posted by Asael

I would hope so... Having a bunch of hot neon pink skin colored jackasses running around would ruin immersion.

Well they already said skin will have that many color so you might see indigo or burgundy color skin
02-08-2013, 05:20 AM
AlexNiculaie

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Originally Posted by Kirito

Well they already said skin will have that many color so you might see indigo or burgundy color skin

I doubt we will see colors out of line for the various races and sub races. More than likely it will just be a wider variety of shades of those already seen.
02-08-2013, 05:29 AM
Reinheart

Oh yeah in English it's known highlights... forgot about that... sorry.
I looked up on google 'hair mesh' and showed the same hair highlights and stuff so I just kept it that way in my translation.

I dunno about two colored skin but I can agree if you can change color of your tatoos and stuff.

Or if you can go into specific details like nail color.
02-08-2013, 05:30 AM
Loggos

No Shego and Dr. Drakken? :(
02-08-2013, 06:20 AM
Valmonte

my characters hair doesn't blend with the highlights like it did in 1.0, so im rather disappointed.
02-08-2013, 06:20 AM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

I doubt we will see colors out of line for the various races and sub races. More than likely it will just be a wider variety of shades of those already seen.

Since there arn't 192 actual colors, yes :)
02-08-2013, 06:22 AM
AmandaHuggenkiss

http://www.trendir.com/archives/blu-...192-colors.jpg
02-08-2013, 06:22 AM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

my characters hair didn't blend with the highlights like it did in 1.0, so im rather disappointed.

Corrected, since you're talking about alpha content, that wasn't finished?
02-08-2013, 06:23 AM
Shougun

Well, 255 255 254 and 255 255 253 are separate colors.. lol

I am in agreement though that crazy ass hair colors would be annoying - I hope Yoshida isnt falling to that kind of style..

(Mostly it was the neon colors that bothered me, like in 1.0 people had pink hair but I guess it wasn't so bad at least on my screen).
02-08-2013, 06:25 AM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss

http://www.trendir.com/archives/blu-...192-colors.jpg

that looks neat; i just hope the boxes stay rather small, so you can easily see all the colors at the same time, and don't need to scroll or such. Or if they use a shader box, where you can drag around marker, to choose color.
02-08-2013, 06:27 AM
Shioban

Mesh just refers to a polygonal mesh.

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon_mesh"

Think of it perhaps like a colour slider or selection menu similar to something like the sims that just edits the previously "white" texture that was created as a base for the colour:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...0/Skintone.jpg

EDIT I forgot to mention packet-size as well. This is a great addition! They are constantly worrying about packet size so to be getting this much freedom is fantastic.

Packets being "Your PC > Server > Other players" and "Other players > Server> Your PC"
02-08-2013, 06:32 AM
Valmonte

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Originally Posted by Radacci

Corrected, since you're talking about alpha content, that wasn't finished?

its a limitation with the new engine, beta isn't going to change that. characters models lost a good deal of finer details with the new engine, my biggest grip however is with the Kim and Barbie skin.
02-08-2013, 06:46 AM
Reinheart

Alpha was missing some lighting, those should be in Beta so that should fix it up a bit imo.
I remember YoshiP or the reps mentioning it, or maybe was in the interviews I read... The character models was still missing something in Alpha for sure.
02-08-2013, 06:50 AM
AmandaHuggenkiss

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Originally Posted by Shougun

(Mostly it was the neon colors that bothered me, like in 1.0 people had pink hair but I guess it wasn't so bad at least on my screen).

There is nothing wrong with pink hair. >..>
02-08-2013, 07:05 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss

There is nothing wrong with pink hair. >..>

Everything. .

:D

Lol kidding I meant that the neon colors are the most annoying to me - I get its an Asian / Japanese (anime?) thing for all the hair colors (since normally alll you could get is black) so I try not to cry too much but if someones hair looks like it was dipped in radioctive goop (so bright it looks like its glowing) then I'll be like.. Orz SE Orz

(Double standard here, the radiant gray and white dont bother me :P - just stuff like this where my eyes are hurting)

In 1.0 I didnt see anyone that had a hair color that bothered me, so - just hoping that one of these new colors isnt a blinding "glowing/neon" green or something.

WoW actually had some annoying hair colors but imo the whole color scheme was annoying to me, I never got fully into that game because of its graphic choices (which I know some people love, to each their own :) )
02-08-2013, 07:07 AM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

its a limitation with the new engine, beta isn't going to change that. characters models lost a good deal of finer details with the new engine, my biggest grip however is with the Kim and Barbie skin.

Skin shaders can do wonders for the looks. they obviously weren't there in alpha...
I don't see how the NEW engine will have limitations, the OLD engine didn't have...
02-08-2013, 07:26 AM
KaplanHomahru

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Originally Posted by Radacci

Skin shaders can do wonders for the looks. they obviously weren't there in alpha...
I don't see how the NEW engine will have limitations, the OLD engine didn't have...

Don't you know that you can tell everything about a game's graphical capabilities by playing an early alpha version? There is absolutely no way anything could improve, and the exact extent of the engine's capabilities is easily known.

(lol)
02-08-2013, 09:20 AM
Shioban

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

Don't you know that you can tell everything about a game's graphical capabilities by playing an early alpha version? There is absolutely no way anything could improve, and the exact extent of the engine's capabilities is easily known.

(lol)

Please let that be sarcasm, which it probably is...if not;
Anything can be modified at any time, you could revise the games engine and or its various components if you wanted even after release, Alpha/Beta/Release gaps are the perfect time to re-do:

Cue FFXIV developer video for Alpha/Beta for the original release:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aabXQ3qpmPc

If i've replied to the wrong person 'sorry' might not have read the flow of posts right.
02-08-2013, 06:12 PM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

Don't you know that you can tell everything about a game's graphical capabilities by playing an early alpha version? There is absolutely no way anything could improve, and the exact extent of the engine's capabilities is easily known.

(lol)

Oh lol on you. You think the looks of alpha was the limit their graphic engine could reach? Did you for example see Ul'dah pic from last letter? which uses extra shaders, and filters etc? Just cause they don't use HDR lighting in alpha, doesn't mean the engine doesn't have the function. It probably has that function, though they aren't using it in-game.
Yoshi said himself that he asked the graphics guys to fix the graphics for alpha, cause it wasn't high enough standard. Alpha is just bare minimum, but Yoshi demanded more than that; otherwise it would have looked worse. They can easily add skin shaders, etc afterwards. Did you for example compare lowest settings in 1.0, to highest settings? it's absurd difference. Alpha probably didnt have highest settings available even, so the difference between alpha, and released version can be immense.
Ya, just look at the lighting differences in previous post-link, and tell me nothing CAN'T change :)
02-08-2013, 10:40 PM
KaplanHomahru

^^; the (lol) at the end was supposed to symbolize the sarcasm. Sorry for being unclear! I was just trying to show how silly Valmonte's post about the graphics was.
02-08-2013, 10:56 PM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

^^; the (lol) at the end was supposed to symbolize the sarcasm. Sorry for being unclear! I was just trying to show how silly Valmonte's post about the graphics was.

ah ok :) well actually i wrote "oh lol on you" before i saw your lol :)
haha hmm, should have seen the sarcasm yes.
02-08-2013, 11:16 PM
KiriA500

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

its a limitation with the new engine, beta isn't going to change that.

[Citation needed]
02-08-2013, 11:42 PM
Nakiamiie

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Originally Posted by Bowen

So, earlier Reinheart translated this:

I was wondering what exactly this meant. Would we be allowed to color different areas of the hair and skin? If so, I would like that very much. What do y'all think?

We're talking about 192 for hair, 192 for eyes, 192... right? Not 192 everything combined? (Nice!!)
02-09-2013, 12:34 AM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

We're talking about 192 for hair, 192 for eyes, 192... right? Not 192 everything combined? (Nice!!)

uhm i'd say 192 combined. i don't see why there should be 192 skin colors of Hyur...or 192 eye colors...or hair colors...
75% of the colors would make Hyur look like alien, or zombie.
02-09-2013, 03:46 AM
Shioban

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

^^; the (lol) at the end was supposed to symbolize the sarcasm. Sorry for being unclear! I was just trying to show how silly Valmonte's post about the graphics was.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

[Citation needed]

IT WAS THE GRASS!
God dammed grass, running Skyri....I mean FFXIV.....