generic attack motions & sounds

this is more for the DoM

I know its still in alpha going on beta.

when a casting wind spell can we get an intense wind sound that surrounds the mob, and maybe make it look like the caster is gathering wind.

Doing some generic hand motion and changing the color is not doing it right.

Ex. THM begins casting fire, he raises his scepter up high, fire gathers around it ( with a fire sound) and then he points it and shoots it at the mob.


as for the sounds per the Video on your channel. all the sounds have that same high pitched sound during battle. there is no variety where are your lows and mids.

right now combat animation looks and sounds are like pixie stick tastes sweet and the same .

But again its alpha / beta

BTW game is looking great.

This topic is generic -_-; lvl 15 alpha spell =/= entirety of the game

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Originally Posted by Warlock

This topic is generic -_-; lvl 15 alpha spell =/= entirety of the game

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but we can still have better low level spell effects, they are almost noticeable

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Originally Posted by Warlock

This topic is generic -_-; lvl 15 alpha spell =/= entirety of the game

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It goes to reason that they will reuse as many animations as possible, so his post is not completely unwarranted. No need to be an ass.

With that said OP I would wait to see whats in store for beta, but that's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Imoen

It goes to reason that they will reuse as many animations as possible, so his post is not completely unwarranted. No need to be an ass.

With that said OP I would wait to see whats in store for beta, but that's just my opinion.

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They wont reuse and you know it.. 1.0's copy pasta didn't why would ARR do it?

Not that I don't think they're willing to work hard, but when you ask this of them you're asking for a lot of work. They'd have to go back and make a plethora of character animations, mob adjustments and sound effects for it to be realized. In the scheme of things, it's kind of minor stuff.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

They wont reuse and you know it.. 1.0's copy pasta didn't why would ARR do it?

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Oh I don't know maybe because it is a GAME, and ALL games REUSE as much as possible? Not like you have infinite resources to work with.

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Originally Posted by EinSoFZ

Not that I don't think they're willing to work hard, but when you ask this of them you're asking for a lot of work. They'd have to go back and make a plethora of character animations, mob adjustments and sound effects for it to be realized. In the scheme of things, it's kind of minor stuff.

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it's small things that make a big difference.

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Originally Posted by Imoen

Oh I don't know maybe because it is a GAME, and ALL games REUSE as much as possible? Not like you have infinite resources to work with.

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Actually this time they do

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Originally Posted by Radacci

it's small things that make a big difference.

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True, but how far should they work on these small things in lieu of the bigger things? Is one animation change in battle to be favored over making a quest or overarching battle element better. Personally, I'd rather the foundation of a game be worked on than that the tertiary qualities beyond that.

Edit: I'm saying I think they should make a great game and then add polish to it basically. What OP is asking for is polish.

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Originally Posted by EinSoFZ

True, but how far should they work on these small things in lieu of the bigger things? Is one animation change in battle to be favored over making a quest or overarching battle element better. Personally, I'd rather the foundation of a game be worked on than that the tertiary qualities beyond that.

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i think the quests are already done :)
but either way both are something they can add in time. but i think making the game visually appealing will make people go oooh and aaah, and get them hooked, while a few extra *kill x boar* quests will be ignored.
Adding a Wind effect on your char and mob for Aero wouldn't be a big hassle anyways. But who knows, maybe they already did.
and designing quests wont go in the way of making effects, cause it's 2 different teams doing those.
And they might need to go a little over the top, considering how 1.0 fared.

I made a comment about this in beta for ffxiv.. All the animations and sounds were the same for casting and it looks monotonous. I couldn't agree more.. Some variation would be very welcome.
Little things really do mean alot.. Especially when you are looking at those little things for the majority of the time you are playing.. A mage, casts... That's what they do.. That's all they do..
Should be as much variation as possible to make the job feel unique and exciting.

But again I resort to my "We are stuck dealing with ps3 outdated hardware limitations" So only a certain amount of animations will likely be used.. Again I say, building ARR around outdated hardware like the ps3 is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Actually this time they do

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It is quite obvious that you have no idea what I'm talking about and are on some other page than me. You can only load so much without going over budget (Textures, triangles, animation calls etc...) Thus it is in your best interest to reuse as much as possible, you can hide and mask the reuse but they are reusing things. (If a model is perfectly symmetrical you don't waste time and "remake" the other side of it and texture both, you mirror the model and UVs, enabling you to have a smaller sized texture to load)

Animation is extremely time consuming even with mo-cap data, there is cleaning of axis curves (X,Y,Z on Rotation, movement, and scale) to get rid of redundant key frames etc...

Also not related to the above, you honestly believe that their team threw out EVERYTHING that was in 1.0 , highly unlikely. Tweaked sure, added new stuff sure, threw out a few things sure. however I highly highly doubt they threw out all their mo-cap data/models/textures etc... that would just be stupid for a project that's trying to make a relatively fast turn around. More realistically they looked at what was good and ported it to the new engine, and only remade and tweaked things where they needed it.

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I made a comment about this in beta for ffxiv.. All the animations and sounds were the same for casting and it looks monotonous. I couldn't agree more.. Some variation would be very welcome.
Little things really do mean alot.. Especially when you are looking at those little things for the majority of the time you are playing.. A mage, casts... That's what they do.. That's all they do..
Should be as much variation as possible to make the job feel unique and exciting.

But again I resort to my "We are stuck dealing with ps3 outdated hardware limitations" So only a certain amount of animations will likely be used.. Again I say, building ARR around outdated hardware like the ps3 is a bad idea.

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Isn't animation client-side? Just give the PS3 client the standard cast animation and the PC client the advanced cast animation. Of course the animation duration of both need to be the same.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Isn't animation client-side? Just give the PS3 client the standard cast animation and the PC client the advanced cast animation. Of course the animation duration of both need to be the same.

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I sure hope that is possible.. If so, it would mean people on the ps3 would not see some animations though.
Might be replaced by "standard" animations, saved client side.. Good idea regardless.. ^^