3 Small Requests for A Realm Reborn

Hello.

I had written this post with 3 minor requests I'd like to see in A Realm Reborn, I'll post it now that I've finally remembered what the 3rd one was. Thanks if the community reps could forward them to the dev team.


1. Reintroduce the Blue Menus.
Is it possible to have the in-game menus of the classic FF-style blue rather than the current sad grey? If we could customize them of the color we wish, it would be even Greater, but I don't know if this is possible in a MMORPG.

2. Improve taking Screenshots, now with a Gamepad.
In FFXIV 1.0 I used a PS2 gamepad and with the “Select” button I could read the descriptions of the buffs/debuffs (top of the screen in my UI). However, since I had activated from the micro menu the option to disable descriptions, the Select button was useless, so I was thinking: Could there be a mappable key on the gamepad that is like the Scroll Lock key, the one that hides the UI, and then enable another button on the gamepad to take a screenshot?
Example: with my PS2 gamepad, with the Select button I hide my UI, admiring the landscapes without having a keyboard nearby, and with the R1 button I'd take a photo (screenshot) of it, kinda like a real camera.

3. Have NPC dialogues appear in the chat log.
In the released alpha videos, I noticed that NPC dialogues don't appear in the chat log. Since I'm very interested in the lore of Eorzea, I always saved the NPC dialogues after completing a quest or reading something of interest, widening my chat log, activating all the filters and taking a screenshot of it. Example:

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/5...3d20f340b9.jpg

I've all the saved dialogues in a dedicated folder, so I can always read them again (it's hard to remember everything).
If in A Realm Reborn dialogues won't appear in the chat log anymore, then I'd have to take a screenshot of every single one, which wouldn't be very comfortable.
Therefore, is it possible to introduce an option (that could be triggered On or Off, for those who want it or not) where the NPC/Quests dialogues appear in the chat log, too?


That's all. Thanks a lot if you could take into consideration to implement these suggestions. :)

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Originally Posted by Onizuka

1. Reintroduce the Blue Menus.

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Cool idea and would fit into the throwback scheme of 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Onizuka

2. Improve taking Screenshots, now with a Gamepad.

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Never played with a game pad but this sounds super annoying. I never thought hiding the UI worked correctly in 1.0 anyway. Did it?

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Originally Posted by Onizuka

3. Have NPC dialogues appear in the chat log.

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I'm sure there will be chat filters eventually. Let's wait and see what beta has in store.

1) someone will make an addon for it
2)im sure there will be a way
3)screenshot the talk bubbles or read it on a website.

The UI for 2.0 needs to be improved vastly imo, what I've seen from screen shots and the videos is kind of... weird. It has three distinct themes and over a dozen colors that feel just kind of thrown in. I hope they don't wait for UI modders to create a good UI theme.

My request is for real... Add in Sky Diving in ARR xD

Like this?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15457104_o.jpg

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

My request is for real... Add in Sky Diving in ARR xD

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Like this?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15457104_o.jpg

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This is what it should be, yes. A single common theme and color palette for all UI elements.

Right now the 2.0 UI has a futuristic style for the unit frames and health/resource bars with neon colors and sharp edges, a steampunk-metallic look for the map and minimap with yellow-gold colors, and a stock/modern UI with rounded edges and monochrome gradients for the chat menu and inventory/craft menus. It's kind of an eyesore.

This is basically the same UI just with changed color and the response to the blue-UI request.

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

This is basically the same UI just with changed color and the response to the blue-UI request.

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I think functionality wise and the layout for the 2.0 UI is great.

I just don't like the completely mismatching colors and themes. It's not really a huge deal if they don't get to it, but at the same time, re-skinning the UI should not be a huge undertaking either.

I wouldn't want these by default. However, giving the option to customize it yourself would be good if it's not already there.

I do like the new chat bubble, the text is very clear to read.

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Originally Posted by Onizuka

3. Have NPC dialogues appear in the chat log.
In the released alpha videos, I noticed that NPC dialogues don't appear in the chat log. Since I'm very interested in the lore of Eorzea, I always saved the NPC dialogues after completing a quest or reading something of interest, widening my chat log, activating all the filters and taking a screenshot of it. Example:

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If you check the latest Alpha video SE posted on gathering/crafting, there's three tabs near the chatlog: General, Battle and Event. It could be Event is for quest text.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Like this?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15457104_o.jpg

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Looks blue to me... -.- hehe.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Like this?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15457104_o.jpg

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Final Fantasy's usually allow menu color customization with blue always being a choice, if not the default, so I hope this blue version makes it into the final game as an option along with the default grey. Although I'd welcome more, I'll be happy with just these two at least.

When I use a gamepad I'm usually right next to my keyboard anyway, but you're suggestion could be useful. However, more than adding shortcuts to the gamepad, what I'd really like is an option to automatically hide names with the scroll button...

I am thinking the event tab in the chat log will have npc dialogue. Least, that's what I hope. I think I recall a dev response saying we would be able to get npc dialogue in the chat log somehow, but don't really remember...

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

This is what it should be, yes. A single common theme and color palette for all UI elements.

Right now the 2.0 UI has a futuristic style for the unit frames and health/resource bars with neon colors and sharp edges, a steampunk-metallic look for the map and minimap with yellow-gold colors, and a stock/modern UI with rounded edges and monochrome gradients for the chat menu and inventory/craft menus. It's kind of an eyesore.

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It looks blue, but I think thats dark grey. Either way blue/grey w.e you should just be able to make it w.e color you wanted from a Config menu or whatnot. I think the menus in general should look more pretty ^^

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Originally Posted by Pseudopsia

I wouldn't want these by default. However, giving the option to customize it yourself would be good if it's not already there.

I do like the new chat bubble, the text is very clear to read.

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I LOOOVE THE CHAT BUBBLE! YES :D

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Originally Posted by Onizuka

3. Have NPC dialogues appear in the chat log.
In the released alpha videos, I noticed that NPC dialogues don't appear in the chat log. Since I'm very interested in the lore of Eorzea, I always saved the NPC dialogues after completing a quest or reading something of interest, widening my chat log, activating all the filters and taking a screenshot of it. Example:

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/5...3d20f340b9.jpg

I've all the saved dialogues in a dedicated folder, so I can always read them again (it's hard to remember everything).
If in A Realm Reborn dialogues won't appear in the chat log anymore, then I'd have to take a screenshot of every single one, which wouldn't be very comfortable.
Therefore, is it possible to introduce an option (that could be triggered On or Off, for those who want it or not) where the NPC/Quests dialogues appear in the chat log, too?


That's all. Thanks a lot if you could take into consideration to implement these suggestions. :)

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You can see NPC dialogue in the chat window.
I found a position in the german quest video where the npc dialogues are not filtered out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...tOWTBZo#t=141s

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

It looks blue, but I think thats dark grey. Either way blue/grey w.e you should just be able to make it w.e color you wanted from a Config menu or whatnot. I think the menus in general should look more pretty ^^

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Other people might prefer a more utilitarian/minimalist appearance. They can't please everybody. They can have some options but too many options and you start to have a feature creep problem where stuff either doesn't get finished or gets delayed and delayed and delayed as they think of more things to add.

at any rate, I think the menus look fine. a nolstalgic style is cool but not really necessary in the end.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Like this?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15457104_o.jpg

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The glare off the screen must be misleading you, because that's the standard gray. [x]

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Originally Posted by Len

The glare off the screen must be misleading you, because that's the standard gray. [x]

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That's not gray. it's blue. No amout of glare (which is only visible in one small spot on the screen) could change that to be not blue. It definitely looks different from some of the earlier images we've seen, which suggests they've either switched to a different color or you can customize it.

I even used ColorZilla's eyedropper on that image over the game windows. Everywhere I click that isn't a piece of text or some nonbackground object is primarily blue (meaning there is more blue than red or green- the actual color is more "purplish". here are some color samples for your enjoyment:
rgb(71, 63, 112)
rgb(71, 57, 113)
rgb(45, 44, 78)

If that was "gray" the three numbers would be much closer to eachother.

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Originally Posted by Felis

You can see NPC dialogue in the chat window.
I found a position in the german quest video where the npc dialogues are not filtered out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...tOWTBZo#t=141s

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Yeah, from what it looks like in the video, you got three tabs. My google translate says one of those is General info, another is battle info, and the third is "event", which is where your NPC dialogue appears. Kinda cool.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That's not gray. it's blue. No amout of glare (which is only visible in one small spot on the screen) could change that to be not blue. It definitely looks different from some of the earlier images we've seen, which suggests they've either switched to a different color or you can customize it.

I even used ColorZilla's eyedropper on that image over the game windows. Everywhere I click that isn't a piece of text or some nonbackground object is primarily blue (meaning there is more blue than red or green- the actual color is more "purplish". here are some color samples for your enjoyment:
rgb(71, 63, 112)
rgb(71, 57, 113)
rgb(45, 44, 78)

If that was "gray" the three numbers would be much closer to eachother.

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The whole image has a blueish tint to it, though. Look at the backdrop behind Yoshi-P, which I'm certain is white. In that picture, it's taken on a blueish hue. That could be why the gray windows on the screen (and yes, they are gray) look sort of blue.

With regards to the UI It is possible they already have a few presets in place as far as which colors and styles you can choose from. I could see the ui being a huge part of add ons later

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That could be why the gray windows on the screen (and yes, they are gray) look sort of blue.

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They don't look "sort of blue", nor do they look the kind of blue that could be cauesd by a tinge from the cool lighting in the room. they are just plain blue.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That's not gray. it's blue. No amout of glare (which is only visible in one small spot on the screen) could change that to be not blue. It definitely looks different from some of the earlier images we've seen, which suggests they've either switched to a different color or you can customize it.

I even used ColorZilla's eyedropper on that image over the game windows. Everywhere I click that isn't a piece of text or some nonbackground object is primarily blue (meaning there is more blue than red or green- the actual color is more "purplish". here are some color samples for your enjoyment:
rgb(71, 63, 112)
rgb(71, 57, 113)
rgb(45, 44, 78)

If that was "gray" the three numbers would be much closer to eachother.

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It's gray, Nancy Drew.

Have you seen a single promotional image besides this one with a blue user interface?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

They don't look "sort of blue", nor do they look the kind of blue that could be cauesd by a tinge from the cool lighting in the room. they are just plain blue.

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Maybe our community reps can ask Yoshi-P what color those windows are. If he says they're gray, will you argue with him?

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Maybe our community reps can ask Yoshi-P what color those windows are. If he says they're gray, will you argue with him?

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of course not. But the answer I'll be wanting to hear is "they can be whatever color you want."

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

of course not. But the answer I'll be wanting to hear is "they can be whatever color you want."

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More like wait another half a year or more after ARR release to get an answer for that, because the only UI customization you can do is after they release AddOn support

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

of course not. But the answer I'll be wanting to hear is "they can be whatever color you want."

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Fairy nuff. ^_^

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

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LOL you guys ^^

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Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

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why notttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt xD xD

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

More like wait another half a year or more after ARR release to get an answer for that, because the only UI customization you can do is after they release AddOn support

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um... this is probably the stupidest reply ive read in a while. What does add on support have to do with SQUARE ENIX providing options to configure the user interface? FFXI had different options for window appearance, there's no reason why FFXIV shouldn't (which I believe was part of the point of this thread).

In short, we don't need add on support to have interface options. The core UI should be robust enough to not need add-ons in the first place- them being for people who want to go beyond that to customize. I don't think something as basic as tinting the windows a different color has to be something invented by the community.

The picture I posted before is just the default UI on a different color. Yoshi said in some of many interviews after Gamescom that it would be possible to change the color of it.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

The picture I posted before is just the default UI on a different color. Yoshi said in some of many interviews after Gamescom that it would be possible to change the color of it.

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so HAH. it is blue. It's not the lighting lmao....

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

so HAH. it is blue. It's not the lighting lmao....

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You're both seeing what you want to see. :rolleyes: