Excellent example by Renen (posted in this forum):
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Originally Posted by Renen
So we've seen this thread a few times - and once we got to the point Yoshida said yeah but whose country would be base it off of? We dont want to do that kind of prejudice. (Or that they already have seasons in the form of permanent seasoned zones)
He also said expect nice weather and environment (so thats cool).
But this horse still hasnt been beaten enough. First suggestion to that issue is that servers are now regional - you could easily set each server's seasons to that regions seasons.
However the time length of each day isnt exactly the time length of each in game day so the reality is unless that matches up it really isnt possible to make game servers to real life servers. So why bother with that, lets make Eorzea have its own seasons could even go in pattern or in more unique complex stages like in the form of eras.
Like there are six elemental eras and each season could be based off those eras, so the six seasons of Eorzea. Though perhaps not in the order the eras came - so that you can attempt to align seasons with the holidays (an obvious NA one would be the winter festival within december).
Please feel free to suggest whatever weather or seasons, doesn't have to pertain to whatever I said. I really would just like to see an environment that has a persistence and change that feels breathing and alive.
Besides having seasons affect the general weather in zones visually you could have it pile with snow or slightly thaw out in "perma" frost areas. Or in streams you see fish climbing the streams, certain npc animals about (or not), could go into monsters but that is a "hardcore-ish" element that not everyone digs.
Also for weather please include wet effects on characters when it rains, or snow effects when it is snowy (shaders that apply a kind of snowy or wet film on players/rocks and such easy to touch up objects). Maybe a mask* to block out the raining effect under overhangings where water drips off. Even change the rate / depth of flora animations when it is extremely windy (trees leaves blowing really hard).
Some of this (zones changing through seasons) would have to be designed after release of ARR but nevertheless its something that would really be great to see.
*if you use a mask (besides the fact I have no idea how their rain is programed) you would then have to turn on an outside of the overhanging rain animation impervious to the mask so that it doesnt look like it suddenly stopped raining depending on camera angle.
For those that have no idea what I mean, I mean an invisible layer that when coming from a certain direction particular things are also invisible. A 3d mask would be required in this case. And the rain impervious to the mask placed at the overhanging is to ensure while within the mask all rain doesnt look like it stopped (looking from the inside out)
Weather and Cycles - Lets do it again
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11-30-2012, 05:16 AMShougunWeather and Cycles - Lets do it again
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11-30-2012, 05:20 AMDannythm
Linked to my idea aggregation post =).
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11-30-2012, 05:27 AMThebard
Or we could just let SE decide for us instead of trying to design the entire game ourselves. I am sure they can handle the weather...
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11-30-2012, 05:29 AMShougunGo away. If you dont want to read peoples opinons please dont visit the forums. Its insulting to the forums itself to say "yeah lets not comment on the game in a forum designed to comment on the game".Quote:
Originally Posted by Thebard
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11-30-2012, 05:33 AMThebardSadly for you I can say what I like in "your" thread as long as it is within the forum rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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11-30-2012, 05:34 AMShougunYou didnt say anything for or aganist. Just wasting space. I will not be commenting to your post anymore unless you become on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thebard
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11-30-2012, 05:41 AMRenen
Im down for this.
Are you thinking weather and stuff like this: http://youtu.be/bv9LMAc1CtU?t=3m11s -
11-30-2012, 05:44 AMShougunSequeled a little watching that video, and I dont even play Aion or want to.. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Renen
Yeah I mean like that. But you can go farther then just "earths" seasons, can have primal seasons or something - even that could effect which primals are roaming the land. -
11-30-2012, 06:02 AMRenenDO want :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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11-30-2012, 06:42 AMNaraku_Diabolos
The weather IS going to change once a Free Company summons a Primal to use. After that the weather effect disperses.
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11-30-2012, 06:44 AMShougunOh meant the seasons to theme of the primals (and which ones are running around currently) - but I didnt know the weather was going to change when you summoned one. I hope its extreme, like heat waves everywhere when Ifrit is summoned. If they add the snow system they could melt the snow in the area :O... would bang my head on the keyboard in utter attention to detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos
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11-30-2012, 09:36 AMForgo
as long as the rain don't lag me out (I have a shitty laptop >.>) I agree with keeping the weather ingame
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11-30-2012, 09:38 AMShougunAh man I remember that in FFXI on my old laptop lol. Silly dust on footsteps and raining and my computer is like planes of water coming at me? OH HELL NO -lag-Quote:
Originally Posted by Forgo
I'm sure it will be an option to configure, Yoshida really wants as many computers as possible. (But also talks about making it the best looking MMORPG). -
11-30-2012, 09:42 AMShinigamiKayla
I don't want any weather linked to southern california... i love the rain i want a majority of it... southern cali is always hot and windy... 100-110 was the temp up until mid november were just barly seeing any rain now and the heat will be back as soon as 1st week of spring... god i hate california...
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11-30-2012, 09:45 AMsyntaxlies
I don't want seasons but would like weather. I really like the lightnng at the end of 1.0
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11-30-2012, 09:48 AMShougunOpinions are always legitimate but can I ask why you don't want seasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by syntaxlies
Yeah I want to see more weathers, light pattering and darkening dirt to large incoming storms and glistening rocks from the rain. Seasons I thought would just direct the general patterns so during the season of Ramuh you may have a lot of thunderstorms while during Leviathan's time you might be walking clear sky and be hit by a small monsoon. -
11-30-2012, 09:49 AMShinigamiKayla
i want seasons like how they do it in Pokemon white and black 2 o.O a season every month!~
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11-30-2012, 10:06 AMsyntaxliesi think seasons would take a ton of development and as long as the seasons are represented as zones im ok with that(like snow zone)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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11-30-2012, 10:14 AMShougunOh yeah, it really could. It depends on if they have shaders that can work on the terrain / non intractable objects and how they are coloring/modeling the flora. Lightning makes a huge "season" feeling. Obviously I have no idea what kind of options they have readily available (which would make a massive difference in develop time).Quote:
Originally Posted by syntaxlies
Still beyond some more weather features, I would love to see shaders for snow/rain on character and on objects being wet like darkening the ground when raining and shiny drippy rocks. Other minor things like changing the animation type on leaves to be droopy in heavy downwards rain and such.
I really want to know if they can add a rain mask so they can make standing under cover actually stop the rain though. That always got me a little more then it should lol. "RAIN GO AWAY, YOU AREN'T ALLOWED HERE". -
11-30-2012, 10:40 AMsyntaxlies
watch them do something crazy like if you are battling in the rain a gauge starts to fill and when its full you cant see so you have to hit an action to wipe the water from your face,lol.
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11-30-2012, 10:44 AMForgoor get snowblind if you stay in the snow too long or get frostbite and lose a small % of hp til you defrost lolQuote:
Originally Posted by syntaxlies
that would make the game a challenge, can't stay out in the weather to long or something bad happens. -
11-30-2012, 10:45 AMShougunHahaha,Quote:
Originally Posted by syntaxlies
Though I think you are onto something with weather you could actually build some boss battles around weather though.. Like fighting Leviathan perhaps it starts to rain really hard and the zone is filling up and you have to climb the tower as you fight him in the center (open topped tower filling with liquid), at the top its thunder storming and you can use nearby ballistics to nail lightning rods into him for extra damage..
With titan it you can really go with what you said where like even though he is so big its so sandy that he is kind of like an assassin hulk. Somehow you have to clear the air or else he will just cast spells that separate everyone and then pick them off one by one.
(You can do these a little without a weather system but they wouldn't look as good / seamless)
The longer Shiva's fight goes on the slower your spells cooldowns come back... :O ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Forgo
I dont think negative weather effects in the open world would be good though - specially because people who need to turn them off would be like.. I DONT SEE IT, ITS NOT HAPPENING lol