I've suggested this before, but I'm of the opinion that anima should be abolished come 2.0. As an alternative, I would be in favor of a FFXII-esque teleport system that would allow you to teleport as many times as you want, but only from crystal to crystal. I'm posting about this because I don't believe anything has been mentioned by the devs regarding 2.0's teleportation system, if there was some comment I missed about that feel free to let me know. Regardless, what do you all think about anima?
ARR and anima
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11-08-2012, 08:00 AMCSLionheartARR and anima
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11-08-2012, 08:03 AMKiriA500
I like anima the way it is now. I hope nothing changes.
Though, if something like the teleport crags from FFXI were added, I'd be ok with those too. I just don't see the point in being able to be at any place at any time for free. Learn to run around the world. -
11-08-2012, 08:05 AMIngolf
I hope we have to find a bunch of new camps again. I've got all the camps, and I'll be annoyed if there's no more to find in ARR.
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11-08-2012, 08:05 AMrina_inverse/1234567890charQuote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
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11-08-2012, 08:05 AMRexValentino
When the aetherite crystals were starting to cost 0 anima before the final save ... i started using them frequently to get some things done in those areas. Coupling this with the anima recharge from atomos when it was being killed frequently was soooo nice.
Without having to worry about anima costs i did so much more than i normally do when logged in. It felt so free and nice. It made me realize just how much anima was holding me back from enjoying the game.
I hope that whatever system is used in 2.0, it lets me feel as free as i did when the aetherites cost 0 anima and atomos recharged it every day. It would be nice if they had some other way to combat RMT's movements. -
11-08-2012, 08:08 AMKiriA500I'm pretty sure none of those will carry over to A Realm Reborn. We're gonna have to re-explore the world (which I am BEYOND excited for)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ingolf
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11-08-2012, 08:09 AMIngolf
Fast travel is an immersion breaker for me. In Morrowind for example, I loved having to use ferries and silt striders to get around.
Even in XI, I enjoyed having to use a ferry and airship.
I enjoy the journey more than the destination sometimes, but I still understand that a fast travel system is needed.
I guess I'd prefer it if we could only go to cities or something, so there had to be at least a bit of travelling.
When Anima was scarce it actually was pretty cool, you would actually walk a lot of the time. -
11-08-2012, 08:10 AMIngolfThis and player housing are the two features I'm excited about the most. I'm happy to be under the sign of the wanderer. It suits me so well.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
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11-08-2012, 08:13 AMKiriA500Me too (well, not the Wanderer thing...Halone 4 lyfe!)! I'm going to be so broke when housing is added...because I will only spend money on furnishing it. :3Quote:
Originally Posted by Ingolf
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11-08-2012, 08:17 AMRexValentinoI certainly loved exploring the world as a noob in ffxi, especially the first ferry ride, and airship ride. Even with scarce anima, explorition seemed to be a bit more self motivated for me in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ingolf
I think the reason i would like the ease of travel as opposed to walking, or boating everywhere is that i tend to play a lot ... and practically live in the game. Doing a lot of events requires anima, and if you have none people seem a little less inclined to wait for you to choco to the location ^^;
I also find myself not doing things because i have no anima ... or not doing certain things so i can budget anima for later use ... i rather have enough to do all the events i want without having to skip thing so i have enough for later, or beg others for an anima tele ^^;
I am sure i will explore as much as i can when the game comes out, and learn everything like the back of my hand, and travel the old fashioned way when i have the time ... i just would like the option to go quickly if i want and not feel forced to do everything in exploration mode ... i want to explore when i want, that way it's even better :D
I am sure i will adjust to whatever method is chosen ... i just hope it's something that doesn't limit people's want/ability to do many events quickly, since scheduling can become an issue ^^ -
11-08-2012, 08:23 AMIngolfI'm going to be so ridiculously poor :( I will end up being gimp because my house will have rotating planets and shit >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
I can understand your point of view completely ; ;. I think I'll end up walking mostly everywhere unless I'm in a rush.Quote:
Originally Posted by RexValentino
And FFXI's attention to detail and scenery was just absolutely amazing! -
11-08-2012, 08:24 AMKiriA500http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...wolo1_1280.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Ingolf
I hate those videos, simply because they make me nostalgia HARD over FFXI. I truly hope this game gets that kind of attention to detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ingolf
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11-08-2012, 08:41 AMJynx
Not sure about everyone else but if I didn't walk somewhere first I will never have been there. I will hopefully spend a long time 100% unfurling my maps.
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11-08-2012, 08:55 AMKaiserDrill
I cant remember off the top of my head where but yoshi said somewhere we will still have anima and teleportation, but you have to travel there first before you can tele there. No more having a friend tele you then you get the point from there on out. Youre gonna have to run everywhere on foot atleast once.
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11-08-2012, 09:06 AMBlackpearlguy
When it comes to travel, like aforementioned here, it's about the journey not about getting wherever/whatever needs to be done, done. That's why I thought camping HNM in FFXI was simply amazing. You'd first have to journey with friends to a destination. Then once you get there you're able to spend time with friends, and even enjoy group chats especially if you were lucky enough to have vent or another voice chat source. Off-topic I know but the first time you ran to Jeuno you were probably teamed with another awesome noob and it was a journey just to get there. FFXIV seemed to completely remove the travel/journey aspect of the game and just got you to the next instanced battle as fast as possible. Personally it wasn't very rewarding, especially when the best part of the journey was chasing a dodo halfway across the map.
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11-08-2012, 09:22 AMShougun
I think a few player activated spells for teleporting would be cool like in FFXI (and other MMOs) or even a more limited anima system.
But I really want travel to be centered around the world, IE (walking, chocobo, airship, boat, train).
If they place the limited camps and use NPC transportation appropriately the disadvantage in time will be outset by the effect of displacement which (can) create a sense of placement (I know displacement and placement in the same sentence sounds like a paradox but give it a second lol). -
11-08-2012, 09:23 AMAltena
Bring back the XI outpost warp system. NPC/crystal that allows you to teleport to a camp, at the cost of gil. Whichever GC is holding that camp gets the warp for free/cheaper. Can only teleport to & from crystals ( like aetherite gate passes ).
As for the comment above, HNM camping was mindlessly boring. "Spending time with friends" sitting in a room filled with other people scratching their privates waiting for a pop, pfft that's not playing a game. You can do that in Ul'dah.. I would agree if you were going to say something like sky/sea NM's or something. That was a lot more fun. Although I guess your point was the journey rather then the destination, which yes I agree - travelling is a big part of it. -
11-08-2012, 10:35 AMA_Hortensia
Here's what I like:
I'm also 100% happy the current anima system and it's regeneration rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
This needs to be a thing again! Sure it can cause some hold-ups if a player in the party doesn't have access to a camp's aetheryte crystal, but a little extra work never hurt anyone. It bugs me a bit that I can take a brand new player and just throw them around the world without them having to do any of the work.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiserDrill
Also, the game needs to alert you if someone doesn't have camp access. Just like it does now with "being out of range" or not having requirement when entering boss fights. In XI it would just be a surprise when the entire party got there and someone was missing. =X
Not just from anywhere on the map any longer. Also, teleporting from crystal to crystal should cost anima and also include your entire party as well. (As it currently does)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altena
An alternate method to using anima for crystal travel. You could have an NPC(warp lala) teleport you from a town to a crystal for gil, as long as you've been to that area before. Or perhaps, if you did a "supply" mission of sorts for this associated group of teleport NPCs to each individual camp.. would that be too cruel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Altena
Oh, and in order to return to a town you would have to either: use anima, return to homepoint, or walk back. This way you can't fully ignore the airship/ferry systems for town to town travel.
However, if nothing changes at all, I'd be totally okay with that. ( ' - ')b -
11-08-2012, 10:37 AMIngolf
I would enjoy only being able to teleport from crystals. It would make the camps an interesting place to hang out and see all the people going about their business.
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11-08-2012, 01:17 PMRhomagus
I love exploring.
That's why I don't always use my anima to get places.
When I need to meet up with friends for an event I don't want to be held back from getting there. That's why I don't waste my anima when doing solo activities.
I also like the resource mechanic involved with anima. It's there when you absolutely need it. If you don't need it? Don't use it. Anyone can afford the time to walk from Ul'dah to Black Brush to turn in a crafting leve to be honest. -
11-08-2012, 01:59 PMKerwin
I still remember my first time running to each city in XIV. Back before Chocobos and airships. I can't wait for that same feeling again in ARR.
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11-08-2012, 02:33 PMReika
I also would like teleportation to be done crystal -> crystal rather than from anywhere -> crystal.
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11-08-2012, 03:54 PMnibelunc
As much as I like exploring and traveling around, fast traveling is a good idea.
I just don't like how Anima works. It feels too unnatural in some way.
If you could teleport from each aetheryte camp, with items, skills or help from a NPC it would make much more sense imo. I mean we need to learn how to use magic but we can teleport anytime and anywhere?