What's your definition of fixing the game?

Since reading these forums it seems that people have either their own ideals on what would fix this game or a blurred set of ideologies that just turns it into a jumbled mess of bitterness.

Personally, I think this is what will fix the game:

- Better Battle System
- Better Class System
- Balancing of attributes
- Moving the interface client side
- Changing food property
- Removing the surplus system even though it rarely affects me
- Rank level specific gear (dress up does only so much for you right now)
- Better Core Mechanics
- Overall game balance from monsters to NPC placement and atmosphere.

Basically, everything they're focusing on right now in order to get the content done correctly.

What is your PERSONAL OPINION on what will fix the game?

add some new seasonal events

the players must be happy XD

well some people surely cant distinguish between implementing non-core design and rewriting core fundamental of this game

Making it into a WoW/FFXI combo. That's what the polls told me.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

add some new seasonal events

the players must be happy XD

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I detect misplaced sarcasm. Considering the current form of seasonal event, they take minimal development resources, and give a little bit of an incentive to log in to players that have little to do, that's a good thing.

Going beyond the misplaced sarasm and back to the topic, I would say giving people things to do. The system isn't perfect, but even with a perfect system, not having stuff to do in the game causes people to log out. It's that simple.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Making it into a WoW/FFXI combo. That's what the polls told me.

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That's why I thank heavens every day that game development isn't a democratic process.

Lore damneet. I need moar Lore...and things to kill....

When people want to play is more then people who want to quit would be a start.

But more technically speaking, when you can finally have the majority of your responses that have "add" instead of "fix".

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Originally Posted by Abriael

That's why I thank heavens every day that game development isn't a democratic process.

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Don't be so sure.

People may not be able to vote for change explicity, but their votes do have some downstream influence on the developers. Well, at least that seems to be the case judging by the changes made already.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

People may not be able to vote for change explicity, but their votes do have some downstream influence on the developers. Well, at least that seems to be the case judging by the changes made already.

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Luckily the developers aren't just doing what they are told. But are filtering it through their vision and schedule. That's what I'm seeing judging by the changes made already and the ones announced for the future.

Leaving decision-making in the hands of the mass of random internet goers is simply nonsensical and always leads to disaster. Just reading parts of this forum gives clear signals of that.

Real Goals,mostly .

Removing all stupid caps and doing some real balance.
Balance and polish for all aspects of the game.Get rid or finish everything that is "half done" battle and world related.

Lastly Add content .

when the community stops spitting on anything added or fixed. And just being happy they are adding and fixing anything at all.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

add some new seasonal events

the players must be happy XD

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How can you people not see this?! This is a sugar coated troll. Disguised as being polite and funny but really this person is mocking you OP.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Luckily the developers aren't just doing what they are told. But are filtering it through their vision and schedule.

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What vision?

Chocobos and airships should suffice lol

Taking a pair of scissors and *SNIP* so it doesn't spray all over the place.

Taking a step back, it really depends on SE's goal. If their goal is to complete Tanaka's design, Yoshi's design, market to the Western audience, or market to the Japanese audience.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Luckily the developers aren't just doing what they are told. But are filtering it through their vision and schedule. That's what I'm seeing judging by the changes made already and the ones announced for the future.

Leaving decision-making in the hands of the mass of random internet goers is simply nonsensical and always leads to disaster. Just reading parts of this forum gives clear signals of that.

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This is something we can completely agree on.

Content
seriously give me something to dooooo aaaargh

I can not speak for all worlds but this is how it is on Trabia:

- They need to improve upon party search/flag/seek feature so that people actually use it ( a /sea feature would be nice as well)

- Sorting of inventory should not be this difficult and should have been fixed months ago

- Level adjustments to all the lvl 50+ mobs in crazy areas so that exploration and grinding is actually viable on more than a limited amount/types of mobs...it is unfortunate many of these Aetherial gates and nodes are rarely visited as there is little reason for some.

- Some kind of health/sp fix between last patch and coblyn sp nerf (in other words they don't have to make it easy, just not as hard because it seems now people are solely depending on behest and leve links except in certain lvls or mob types)

- Since we are on the subject of leve links....Up the sp buffer everywhere else instead of the world relying mainly on just Camp Broken Water R40's or other leves throughout Thanalan...maybe even raise buffer in a different city area on weekly basis (Limsa Guardian aspect bonus week or something)...or even different leves for other gates and nodes throughout a city's zones that have yet to be implemented.

- Market Wards is an interesting idea...but if you are going to use it we probably need a 3rd retainer...and a retainer with each expansion thereafter.

- Implement features in the game (other than the now available quests) that make players want to venture outside of Thanalan more

- I would like a title system in place like FFXI had

- More HNM or NM than what we have now (PUG/ARC/mages need some gear too) - make quest NM's as well, not just factions (up faction drop rate)

- The raid/instance/company thing sounds like a good start but I will reserve comments for it until it is implemented and functioning

- How about fixing Linkshell features so we can clean them up with inactive people/troublemakers instead of requiring someone to stand in front of us

- Chocobo / Airship / Underground City train implementation (possibly even instance a few)

- Behest the boat that travels to Limsa (maybe lvl synch/cap 30 it for all participants) - more people would ride the boat

- A storyline and quests of other cities / even a quest and storyline for some of those unvisited empty towns no one visits (Golden Bazaar/Quarry Mill)

- Give people something other than just an 80% population in Thanalan waiting for leves to reset or behests

- I miss invisibility and sneak (as well as times to use them)

- If you are going to implement tiers of Raises (take away timers on them, so people can't make up "it wore off excuse") / Truthfully , fix this anyway so it lasts like teleport offer.

- Up anima regeneration (nice to see return will eventually cost 0)

- Won't comment on patch to death penalty until it is implemented

- Stop making craft marks so difficult when other marks are easily acquired / crafting should be no different

- At the moment the only options seem to be to craft/wait for leves to reset/finish up a rare quest (that many drop a crap item) / or camp behest / or chat in linkshell and the game needs more "oooh-ahhh" factor on a daily basis than just that.

- Request some kind of "Battlegrounds" or arena for some kind of PVP (that offers marks for items or something)

- Armor is getting redundant and some of the stats on some of the armor makes little to no sense, stop that. If they are going to make an NM that drops materials for some decent gear or piece of equipment at least give it the "this is an NM that took time and effort to kill" stats.

- Game needs to find a way to appeal to not just hardcore, but casual players as well.

I like to see a little more of the beast men like they were in ffxi in lower level as well as in higher please note i mean as lower level mob in the low level area. not a higher level mob in lower level areas owning every one.

also lock damn gear it silly seeing people running around at rank 10 wearing rank 48 gear its just stupid

Where its 90% fun instead of 90% chore.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Since reading these forums it seems that people have either their own ideals on what would fix this game or a blurred set of ideologies that just turns it into a jumbled mess of bitterness.

Personally, I think this is what will fix the game:

- Better Battle System
- Better Class System
- Balancing of attributes
- Moving the interface client side
- Changing food property
- Removing the surplus system even though it rarely affects me
- Rank level specific gear (dress up does only so much for you right now)
- Better Core Mechanics
- Overall game balance from monsters to NPC placement and atmosphere.

Basically, everything they're focusing on right now in order to get the content done correctly.

What is your PERSONAL OPINION on what will fix the game?

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Pretty much agree with your top 3, in the right order, then we need content (missions, involving quests, dungeons) at position 4.

Then I will consider the game fixed, the other items you listed I think are of minor importance and could be addressed in patches here and there.

Opening Ishgard (story), adding chocobos (exploration) and low-level NMs (content). A boss fight similar to Shadow Lord to cap the initial story would also be nice.

But really, If Ishgard had been open at launch, I would have been happy. There's really no sense of progression through the zones now, and having a higher level city as a goal would alleviate some of that. Not to mention Ul'Dah is being forced to serve as the Jeuno type city now, leaving Grid and LL near empty in comparison.

Hopefully, before the PS3 release they'll open it up so PC players have somewhere to go before the flood of new players.

1) LS functions
2) More to do
3) More crafting recipes(we have a ton, but there are still so many items that arent used in anything)

I don't think the game needs to be "fixed" anymore. They took care of a majority of actual broken stuff already. We need things to do... other than leve quests. I'm excited to see what they have in mind for dungeons and raids, that alone might be enough to keep alot of people occupied while they deal with adding other content and side quests.

To me, there are only three things the games in order to be fixed:

1. An order of magnitude more content. All the game system refinements in the world are utterly useless if you don't have anything to do. The leve system can be a fantastic system if given an injection of variety, quantity, and refinement. Subquests are fine in their current state. Don't start borrowing ideas from other games; you'll always be second-rate if you're always copying someone else. Take your own unique implementations and inject them with awesome.

2. Chocobos and airships. The fact that the game launched without either of these is simply mindboogling, and indicates just how rushed they were by upper management to get the game out the door.

3. Finalize the control scheme. I feel like there has been so much focus on fixing the keyboard and mouse problems that gamepad implementations are suffering because of it. This last update left me with no way to easily change targeting modes. There's still no way to open my inventory from the gamepad. While I understand that the keyboard and mouse problems were far more severe, waffling back and forth helps no one. In addition, the gamepad functionality needs to be fully in place if they want to acheieve a summer PS3 lanuch.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

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3. Finalize the control scheme. I feel like there has been so much focus on fixing the keyboard and mouse problems that gamepad implementations are suffering because of it. This last update left me with no way to easily change targeting modes. There's still no way to open my inventory from the gamepad. While I understand that the keyboard and mouse problems were far more severe, waffling back and forth helps no one. In addition, the gamepad functionality needs to be fully in place if they want to acheieve a summer PS3 lanuch.

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off topic a little but what button does this on keyboard

To fix this game we need an incentive to party with each other (I party with my friends because this game solo sucks IMHO, but that isn't everyone's opinion). I think they alienated a lot of people who thought they were casual gamers because they couldn't compete in XI, but once they played XIV, they wanted something a little bit more hardcore. Build a community with this game, my server is far from being empty (Selbina is overcrowded), and still people have no incentive to work together, and I've been screwed over by people on that server from randomly partying. Not the kind of community I like.

Hmm, well in my honest opinion...let's see.

Combat needs to be more fluid, I also don't feel a sense of accomplishment when I kill things. I mean back in FFXI (Which I will be basing a lot of my view upon, fillet me if you wish) when I killed my first goblin I was like, "Yeah, take that goblin. You just got beat down. Same with my first quadav, and yagudo. (not so much with orcs seeing as they tended to eat my face.)" This also brings me to a passionate point of mine. I feel no love for my class.

Perhaps this stems from my recent run-ins with FFIV and Dissidia but I miss the heck out of Dragoon. I just felt powerful when I wielded my lance, also, the battle system we have now kind of downplays the "Heavy Weapon" archetype that I always find so endearing. Yeah, you stood there for 10 seconds after swinging your scythe, that crap is heavy.

Second, I don't know if it's just me and my biases but the world seems not very enthralling. I mean, I stand in Gridania and I just feel nothing. I see the lancers and their masks and feel nothing. I watch the carpenters ply the crafts and nope, nothing. I even do my relevant quests and they make me smile a little but afterward, nothing. Honestly, I don't really know how they can infuse the world with the light I so desire. Perhaps, a cataclysm is truly the only way, one must become Ragnarok and tear the land asunder for a rebirth to occur...

Third, I don't care much for leves. They were interesting up to about rank 20. Subsequently, finding out quickly that there isn't a large amount of variety as one climbs the steps to 50...I sort of lost steam. How to fix them? I again, don't truly know.

Finally, a piece I feel is off topic but I truly find this an issue, one that I find time and time again... I believe that willingness to accept change is directly proportional to time invested in the current systems. Simply put, you let the crap rain down on you as you trudged through the fire and flame to get to 50 and are angry that people are attempting to seek genuine change of the systems that you MASTERED.

This places SE in a whale of a position, Yoshi-P has already stated that progess shall not be lost, but does that or does that not cripple the possible directions this game can take?

On one hand you have the loyal and the true, who have with unwavering resolved weathered what some would consider "intolerable" and are waving the flag of their success.
On the other hand, you have the masses, the hungering ones who through willful decisions or simple lack of effort are not attempting the systems these far outnumber the loyal and the true. You have decided not to snub the loyal but the masses are still standing at the window, seeing nothing to be gained by entering but seeing the loyal work tirelessly.

Can you entice the masses without crushing the loyal? This is the question.