PS3 + Vita + FFXIV

So I believe Yoshi has talked about apps coming out for cell phone. Such as Market look up, and Token app for logging in. With that in mind I wonder if Yoshi has thought about making the PS3 and Vita work together while you play FFXIV. Could use the Vita for mini map/ UI stuff. Also say your out in the field doing stuff, and you want to update retainers or buy some stuff, and have it sent to the new delivery npc for you to pick up. Don’t think SE could but since PC is getting UI plug ins, could find a way for players to make UI plug-ins for PS3 to be used on vita’s screen that could easily be loaded to vita. Not sure if Sony would let that though :( If nothing else I feel cross play with PS3 <-> Vita could be useful for FFXIV. I know there is no way for something like this to be in place for ARR but maybe down the line it could be something for Yoshi and other Devs to look into. Discuss your thoughts about this.

sounds like this would work alot better on Wii-U

god help me I'd consider a Wii U if that was the case...

Well the game Isn’t be made for the Wii-u atm so yeah, but even so say it would come to Wii-U this idea would be nice + could use same stuff for PS3 + vita. Also idk how much the wii-u pads will be able to handle since it isn’t out yet. but I’m sure vita could do more then wii-u pads.

Well Vita can link with the PS3 and you could play PS3 games on it. Well not yet, some hackers found out a way but sony trying to stop it.

As far as I know Sony been saying anything Wii-U can do PS3/Vita can. Kind of why I could see Sony helping SE in making something for FFXIV to use both with. Would be a huge selling point to ppl playing FFXIV on ps3 to buy a vita as well so Sony wins in end and FFXIV is better with it ;x

One advantage PS Vita has is that it is mobile, so you can send messages, and plan events with free company or with LS while away from home. The second advantage is that it could be used as a mini touch screen pad or mini map, or as a controller.

It even has built in mic so you can voice chat, but I don't see SE allowing voice chat features anyways. :(

Oh wow never thought of that free company uses. Also Mic useage woudl be cool but I beleave it was said allready it was hard to brign voice chat into PS3 FFXIV, Vita might be able to do that.

You technically wouldn't need an app for that. Since PC can use vent/ts/etc, you can think of the VITA's party app as your chat app. It could help that way. Personally, I would love to see some function of ffxiv on the VITA.

Rather stick with the phone apps, better and simpler dev options, it doesn't need to be hardware intensive (as I said in a previous thread) a very basic html page that needs decent refresh rate.

$10 app vs $300 lemon

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Originally Posted by NationOfZealots

Rather stick with the phone apps, better and simpler dev options, it doesn't need to be hardware intensive (as I said in a previous thread) a very basic html page that needs decent refresh rate.

$10 app vs $300 lemon

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and how much for the phone + plan?

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Originally Posted by Andrien

and how much for the phone + plan?

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PS3 Vita is a console, not a phone. Big difference.

Oh phone plan is $49AU a month btw :p

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Originally Posted by NationOfZealots

PS3 Vita is a console, not a phone. Big difference.

Oh phone plan is $49AU a month btw :p

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you answered half of my question.


the difference is in its value. the vita is a hand held gaming device with cross play and skype features. both are mobile but vita has more value for what it is worth for a gaming machine first. no reason for it to be excluded.

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Originally Posted by indira

sounds like this would work alot better on Wii-U

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and why? PS3 -> less hardware power -> no full hd

Wii U Controller -> exactly the same number of buttons like PS3 controller -> much bigger touchscreen for chatting, drag and drop etc..

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Originally Posted by DoomCky

As far as I know Sony been saying anything Wii-U can do PS3/Vita can. Kind of why I could see Sony helping SE in making something for FFXIV to use both with. Would be a huge selling point to ppl playing FFXIV on ps3 to buy a vita as well so Sony wins in end and FFXIV is better with it ;x

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ah come on, sure they are saying.. and on the other hand its just not true. the psvita on the opposite is much smaller and costs around 200-300 bucks. the Wii U controller supports streaming, a bigger display... and the wii u recognize on which part of the screen you are holding the tablet controller in front of it. that part is visualized on the tablet then (to aim through the display)

and sony also said " our "Move-controllers" are much better than from the Wii".. and what was it? the biggest flop in history. like the psvita itself.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Wii U Controller -> exactly the same number of buttons like PS3 controller -> much bigger touchscreen for chatting, drag and drop etc..

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

the Wii U controller supports streaming, a bigger display... and the wii u recognize on which part of the screen you are holding the tablet controller in front of it. that part is visualized on the tablet then (to aim through the display)

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With all that said, the Wii U gamepad itself still has less features than the Vita.

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With all that said, the Wii U gamepad itself still has less features than the Vita.

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quality over quantity i would say

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With all that said, the Wii U gamepad itself still has less features than the Vita.

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good for the vita. Wii U -> preorders sold out

vita -> here you can have it! ;XD

Tonkra does have a point, the Vita damn near bombed even in Japan (Mobile capital) so Sony is trying it's hardest to push them without giving them away lol.

I'd rather WIi-U than Vita honestly.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

quality over quantity i would say

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good for the vita. Wii U -> preorders sold out

vita -> here you can have it! ;XD

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The point is that the gamepad itself is a device for indoors. There might be some basic functions you could do with it on the road (clock; mini games like tetris or sudoku which the gamepad can render by itself; notepad), but it's not a fully equiped tablet pc, so there is no internet or phone access without the console and the Wii U games are streamed onto it via bluetooth from the console itself, so once you are out of reach you can't play them.

Also to it's gameplay mechanics it's meant to be a hub for your living room, as you can use it as a remote control for your tv via the infrared sensor.

I have no doubt the wii u gamepad can be used for ffxiv in your home, but I see more value on the ps vita side while in your home and on the road, same applies with other mobile devices.

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The point is that the gamepad itself is a device for indoors. There might be some basic functions you could do with it on the road (clock; mini games like tetris or sudoku which the gamepad can render by itself; notepad), but it's not a fully equiped tablet pc, so there is no internet or phone access without the console and the Wii U games are streamed onto it via bluetooth from the console itself, so once you are out of reach you can't play them.

Also to it's gameplay mechanics it's meant to be a hub for your living room, as you can use it as a remote control for your tv via the infrared sensor.

I have no doubt the wii u gamepad can be used for ffxiv in your home, but I see more value on the ps vita side while in your home and on the road, same applies with other mobile devices.

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you would need a mobile plan for the vita just to access the net. dont know how many ppl got that extra feature.
As to the range of the WIIU gamepad its confirmed to be at lease 8 meters or 24 feet, so you can go next room without a problem.

At the moment you cant do anything with FFXIV while not logged in anyway. Like checking market or maybe trading items...
So the value of the "everywhere online" feature is not as strong as the whole WIIU gamepad concept

biggest problem with the vita its too damn small, i rather play on the big wii-u controller for stuff like that.
my character is a female but im a 6 foot man so my hands are alittle bigger than a 5 year old. im pretty sure most people play there mmo's at home anyways.

Well I can see this is turning into a Wii-U thread... lets just stop that now. Cause as of right now FFXIV isn’t coming to Wii-U. Understandable people will bring up Wii-U when PS3/Vita talks happen. But lets keep this on track. The Vita could bring new UI elements to the PS3 itself couldn't. Could use the screen on vita as a drag and drop for new housing , for gear switching as we seen in many of the vids of ARR with mouse. This isn’t the best idea but , could have the vita hold some action bars. Then again it might be hard to hold ps3 controller + vita while doing stuff. As for any type of mobile stuff yes need ATT plan in US for that. But lets just say you are at home watching football or playing a dif game. You could use Vita to do certain things like look up items and buy stuff w/o the need to be logged in FFXIV on the ps3

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Originally Posted by GinTama

you would need a mobile plan for the vita just to access the net. dont know how many ppl got that extra feature.
As to the range of the WIIU gamepad its confirmed to be at lease 8 meters or 24 feet, so you can go next room without a problem.

At the moment you cant do anything with FFXIV while not logged in anyway. Like checking market or maybe trading items...
So the value of the "everywhere online" feature is not as strong as the whole WIIU gamepad concept

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If you don't own the 3G model you can access the net via wi-fi connection, which can be found (almost) anywhere; You don't even need a PS3 to do that. I don't think you understand its value, but I'm not going to derail this thread any further.