RE: PS3/PC Installs

I'd like to make a request ^^

Make the login's device agnostic (hope that's the right word); and NOT require a disk for PS3

I could use my XI login on any machine regardless of what the original purchase device was. As it stands that I see I have to buy a third account to enable PS3 access to all my accounts.

I confirmed with customer service as such. Since I have account on PC for wife and I; to play on PS3 I'd have to register that copy under the same SEID (since both our XIV accounts are under the same one).

Basically; if you want to play on PC and PS3 you need 2 copies registered under the same account (one of each)

I'd like it if you just let us download the install (like DC Universe) and install on the PS3 and as long as we have a valid SEID/PC Purchase let us login; and vice versa.

Is that a concern for anyone else?

I find that hard to believe, given that XI handled it just fine. It wouldn't be the first time that SE customer support had incorrect information. I guess we'll see.

really dbaggy move if this is the case

It's a legitimate request that you own a legitimate copy for each platform.

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really dbaggy move if this is the case

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There's nothing "dbaggy" about it. The same thing was true of FFXI. The price you pay for the game at the store is for the software, not for the account. If you don't own the PS3 software, you can't play it on PS3.


That being said I can't imagine why you would want to play it on the PS3 if you have a PC.

You can just hook your PC up to the same TV, and use motionjoy or whatever it is to use a PS3 controller to play. Better graphics, no memory limitations or bullshit.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...play+ps3+on+pc

Will I be able to log into both the Windows and PlayStation 3 versions of the game with the my account?

Yes, you will be able to log into both the Windows and PlayStation 3 versions of the game. However, you will need to register the registration codes from both versions of the game.


So if you buy a PS3 copy, you can't play on the PC, You need to buy BOTH ><

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Better graphics, no memory limitations or bullshit.

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You know with the whole comment about limited memory and such on PS3 I was half expecting a surprise announcement for FFXIV on PS Vita.

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...play+ps3+on+pc

Will I be able to log into both the Windows and PlayStation 3 versions of the game with the my account?

Yes, you will be able to log into both the Windows and PlayStation 3 versions of the game. However, you will need to register the registration codes from both versions of the game.


So if you buy a PS3 copy, you can't play on the PC, You need to buy BOTH ><

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If you're posting on these forums, you already own a PC copy. Hook it up to your TV, use a PS3 controller, and forget about the PS3 console.

or have both hooked up to a tv and then all you have to do is switch inputs when you have to look up something have it fullscreen on ps3 and not have to worry about alt tabbing and the game crashing LOL sorry I'm getting ps3 version because sometimes I just don't feel like turning my computer on (am on a computer all day at work)

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Originally Posted by Rannie

or have both hooked up to a tv and then all you have to do is switch inputs when you have to look up something have it fullscreen on ps3 and not have to worry about alt tabbing and the game crashing LOL sorry I'm getting ps3 version because sometimes I just don't feel like turning my computer on (am on a computer all day at work)

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Well my office is downstairs and tv is upstairs. Graphics aren't my major concern; portability is. I'm sure somewhere down the road someone only on PS3 will come across this. In XI you just had to borrow a install disk.

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sorry I'm getting ps3 version because sometimes I just don't feel like turning my computer on (am on a computer all day at work)

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Other than one takes a little longer to boot up, what difference is there in turning your PC on vs turning your PS3 on?

You can connect the PC to both TV and monitor, and have your look-up stuff on one screen and the game on the other. You don't need a PS3 to do that.

Your game experience is going to be superior on the PC version. Your argument that you're on a computer all day is invalid because there's no difference between being "on the computer" and "on the PS3" when they're both connected to the same screens...

You can play PC games from the comfort of a couch just as easily as you can play console games.

Buuut, if you can't comprehend how there's no difference, then you're going to have to plunk down extra $ for a PS3 copy. Sucks to be you. Sorry if it sounds mean, but there's really nothing more to it than that.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It's a legitimate request that you own a legitimate copy for each platform.

There's nothing "dbaggy" about it. The same thing was true of FFXI. The price you pay for the game at the store is for the software, not for the account. If you don't own the PS3 software, you can't play it on PS3.


That being said I can't imagine why you would want to play it on the PS3 if you have a PC.

You can just hook your PC up to the same TV, and use motionjoy or whatever it is to use a PS3 controller to play. Better graphics, no memory limitations or bullshit.

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did you play xi? of course you needed to buy the disc to install the game but then you could have 2 accounts and not one
maybe you need to reread the op

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Other than one takes a little longer to boot up, what difference is there in turning your PC on vs turning your PS3 on?

You can connect the PC to both TV and monitor, and have your look-up stuff on one screen and the game on the other. You don't need a PS3 to do that.

Your game experience is going to be superior on the PC version. Your argument that you're on a computer all day is invalid because there's no difference between being "on the computer" and "on the PS3" when they're both connected to the same screens...

You can play PC games from the comfort of a couch just as easily as you can play console games.

Buuut, if you can't comprehend how there's no difference, then you're going to have to plunk down extra $ for a PS3 copy. Sucks to be you. Sorry if it sounds mean, but there's really nothing more to it than that.

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big difference for me my controller isn't a ps3 controller so it's actually on a cord I can't just sit back and relax unless i pull out a camping chair in my room and sit on it I'm playing in my room on a 26" led/lcd tv on a pc sometimes I want to sit back and stretch out my legs so it would make a huge difference to me in the long run because of sitting on my bed to long cross legged actually hurts me, knees thighs and makes my feet go to sleep so yeah I will be getting the ps3 version also there's less heat as well (I live in florida with a bad air conditioner and my pc generates more heat right now than my ps3 does) Also I don't have a second monitor nor the room to put a second one in.

So sorry if this sounds like lame excuses but think of other people's enviromental factors before making assumptions =) I don't care I'm buying BOTH copies anyway.

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big difference for me my controller isn't a ps3 controller

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You realize that you could use your ps3 controller if you wanted, right? It's totally possible.

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So sorry if this sounds like lame excuses but think of other people's enviromental factors before making assumptions

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The thing is, you can make those environmental factors equal for both platforms. That's why they are lame excuses.

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did you play xi? of course you needed to buy the disc to install the game but then you could have 2 accounts and not one

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You can still do that- the only catch is you will always have to use the same account on each system(meaning account A will only be on the PS3 and account B will only be on the PC). But you could still play with yourself this way. Even in XI, you couldn't have the same account logged in twice on different PCs or PS2s.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You realize that you could use your ps3 controller if you wanted, right? It's totally possible.

The thing is, you can make those environmental factors equal for both platforms. That's why they are lame excuses.

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whatever you say buddy you don't know the situtation i'm in nor does it seem like you want to understand so go on thinking what you want to think and we'll agree to disagree.

SE does require you to have a PS3 version registered on your account if you want to play on PS3. Just spend the $30 and get a PS3 disc.

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whatever you say buddy you don't know the situtation i'm in nor does it seem like you want to understand so go on thinking what you want to think and we'll agree to disagree.

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I totally know the situation you're in, unless you've failed to explain it correctly. "Agreeing to disagree" doesn't change facts:

- You can use the same controller to play both the PC and PS3 versions of the game
- You can play both of them on the same TV, in front of the same couch or chair or whatever you plan on sitting on.
- Your game experience will be basically identical in either case. You might get PS3 trophies on the PS3 version. That's about the only thing working in the PS3's favor.

These are simple facts. Denying them and singing "LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU" doesn't change those facts.
There is no advantage or benefit of any kind to playing on the PS3 if you already own a PC copy. I can't see why this is so hard for you to understand. I'd love to understand your situation better, but I can't think of any situation where it would make any kind of difference whatsoever which platform you play on, outside of the game very likely performing much better on the PC and therefore being far superior.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I totally know the situation you're in, unless you've failed to explain it correctly. "Agreeing to disagree" doesn't change facts:

- You can use the same controller to play both the PC and PS3 versions of the game
- You can play both of them on the same TV, in front of the same couch or chair or whatever you plan on sitting on.
- Your game experience will be basically identical in either case.

These are simple facts. Denying them and singing "LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU" doesn't change those facts.
There is no advantage or benefit of any kind to playing on the PS3 if you already own a PC copy.

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I never said i owned a pc copy either I did say I was buying a copy of both where did I say I already had one. No you don't under stand it nor do you understand my reasonings I know what you're saying you going on about how the graphics will be better yet even though they've already stated that the graphics on the ps3 will be much the same as the pc version ah well it doesn't matter to you one bit secondly i've heard too many people complain about using that program to get their ps3 to work by the way don't you have to have it connected to the computer anyway to use it seeing as how the ps3 controller is bluetooth (can't really say since i don't want to use a program I get better connections with my wired controller connected to my pc anyway so no we'll agree to disagree seeing how most of the time when I say something you want to start an argument over it. third of all I don't want to constantly have to slug a CHAIR over to my room and open it limited space so I would have to sit on my bed but again whatever you say bud i'm done.

Btw I don't own a pc copy. I got a buddy pass from a friend of mine

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I never said i owned a pc copy either

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You don't have to say it. You own a PC copy if you're posting on these forums.

And holy crap man, put some periods in your sentences. I find it hard to believe you're of an age to have a job with that kind of grammar, no offense.

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by the way don't you have to have it connected to the computer anyway to use it seeing as how the ps3 controller is bluetooth

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You can get a bluetooth adapter for your PC. it's cheap.

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third of all I don't want to constantly have to slug a CHAIR over to my room

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You shouldn't have to "slug" something to sit on around anywhere. if you connect both PC and PS3 to the same video output device. Yes, i recognize that your PC and PS3 might be in different locations at the present time. What I'm suggesting to you is that you move them to the SAME location, then you don't have to go back and forth.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You don't have to say it. You own a PC copy if you're posting on these forums.

And holy crap man, put some periods in your sentences. I find it hard to believe you're of an age to have a job with that kind of grammar, no offense.

You can get a bluetooth adapter for your PC. it's cheap.

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you offering to buy me one? At this point in time i've been on FMLA and have had just enough money to pay my bills and As per my edit I don't own a pc copy of this game tyvm. Sorry my typing offends you. when i start thinking and typing quickly i don't put periods get used to it. ^_^ and I'm a woman thank you.

They ARE IN THE SAME PLACE!!! MY COMPUTER IS CONNECTED TO MY TV. MY PS3 IS CONNECTED TO MY TV. My pc is connected via DVI-HDMI and my ps3 is connected HDMI. I sit on on BED. I WOULD HAVE TO SLUG A CHAIR AROUND IN MY ROOM TO NOT HURT FROM SITTING ON SAID BED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. Obviously you DID NOT understand what I typed.

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you offering to buy me one? At this point in time i've been on FMLA and have had just enough money to pay my bills and As per my edit I don't own a pc copy of this game tyvm

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If you don't have a PC copy of the game, you can't post on these forums- you certianly don't have a PS3 copy, because they don't exist yet. That means the only other possibility is you're using someone else's account to post.

And if your money is that tight, you probably shouldn't play a subscription based MMO.

Also, once 1.0 shuts down, only people who were paying customers of the game at the time of shutdown will be able to post.

Buddy pass = same as a regular PC account (lterally: The buddy pass is just a regular registration code). Therefore you own a PC copy of the game.

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and I'm a woman thank you.

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I didn't say whether you were a man or a woman. "Holy crap man" is just easier to say than "holy crap woman." When you're in a room full of men and women, do you say "holy crap men and women?" No, most people just say 'guys' when collectively referring to a group. It's common and it's socially acceptable.

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Obviously you DID NOT understand what I typed.

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Obviously you didn't type it correctly, because that's not what you said when I responded.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

If you don't have a PC copy of the game, you can't post on these forums- you certianly don't have a PS3 copy, because they don't exist yet. That means the only other possibility is you're using someone else's account to post.

And if your money is that tight, you probably shouldn't play a subscription based MMO.

Also, once 1.0 shuts down, only people who were paying customers of the game at the time of shutdown will be able to post.

Buddy pass = same as a regular PC account. Therefore you own a PC copy of the game.

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I didn't buy said pc copy i don't have a disc for it I didn't pay for it I've been paying since the beginning of this year. Wth is your major malfunction? Buddy pass does not equate owning a pc copy. I have no discs. I have legacy status. Hell I've been playing since closed beta. You know what just block me I'm blocking you because you obviously lack any type of intelligence what so ever. Goodbye.

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I didn't buy said pc copy i don't have a disc for it

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It doesn't matter. What part of this don't you understand. If you don't have it installed, just go find an ISO off the internet somewhere.

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I didn't pay for it I've been paying since the beginning of this year.

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Why would you pay for a game since the beginning for a year if you don't even have it installed? Prior to the legacy announcement, that would have been just throwing money away... Your profile even states that you have a level 50 character. Therfore you've been playing, therefore you own a PC copy.

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Buddy pass does not equate owning a pc copy.

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Buddy pass DOES equate to owning a PC copy. If you install the game (your friend can loan you his disc, or you can download the installer off the net somewhere), and play your "buddy pass" account, there is absolutely zero difference from if you actually bought the game from a box in the store.

What part of "A buddy pass is literally a full PC account" don't you understand?

And 'what is your major malfunction?" I'm not a robot, thanks.

This conversation is reaching a new level of absurdity....

You know, why don't you go back and re-read your posts, before declaring anyone else has a lack of intelligence. Most of your posts are barely readable in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

There is no advantage or benefit of any kind to playing on the PS3 if you already own a PC copy.

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I'd say the benefit would be the ability to play FFXIV when your PC was unusable (such as when running a virus scanner or if it needed to be repaired).

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Originally Posted by lshumaker

I'd say the benefit would be the ability to play FFXIV when your PC was unusable (such as when running a virus scanner or if it needed to be repaired).

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That's true, but many of those interruptions can also exist on the PS3 (e.g. being broken, or needing an update)

All I was originally trying to communicate was that you do not need to buy a console version of the game to get "the couch experience," nor do you need it to play with a gamepad or even specifically a PS3 controller.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That's true, but many of those interruptions can also exist on the PS3 (e.g. being broken, or needing an update)

All I was originally trying to communicate was that you do not need to buy a console version of the game to get "the couch experience," nor do you need it to play with a gamepad or even specifically a PS3 controller.

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True.

I plan on getting both, so that if one system was down during my free time, I could still play FFXIV.

I Agree. I mean when i bought Assassins creed on my PS3 Ubisoft gave me Assassins creed for free on my xbox. Same thing goes for Call of Duty, bayonetta, etc........ Its a sweet deal. Companies should always give you a game of a different format for completely free if you bought it on another format/console.

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Originally Posted by Norack

I Agree. I mean when i bought Assassins creed on my PS3 Ubisoft gave me Assassins creed for free on my xbox. Same thing goes for Call of Duty, bayonetta, etc........ Its a sweet deal. Companies should always give you a game of a different format for completely free if you bought it on another format/console.

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The problem here is not really about paying for the extra copy, it's the fact that you need to consume that registration code if you want to play your current account on the other platform- You can't just install the game and play your current account, so if you wanted to play 2 characters at once, you couldn't interchangably use both characters on PC and PS3- each character would have to stay on that platform.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

The problem here is not really about paying for the extra copy, it's the fact that you need to consume that registration code if you want to play your current account on the other platform- You can't just install the game and play your current account, so if you wanted to play 2 characters at once, you couldn't interchangably use both characters on PC and PS3- each character would have to stay on that platform.

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I understand but it could be something SE just put in to try to cut down on piracy?

Maybe a simple solution would be that you buy the PS3 version and use the reg. code on your current SE account so you can play on PC and PS3. But than maybe SE could make it so you could buy just reg. codes from them so you wouldn't have to re buy the game if you wanted to make a new account but wanted to play on your PS3.

Although that might be very redundant because that would probably just increase ppl trying to pirate the game so they can just buy the reg. code and not have to spend as much money on the game so forget i said anything XD

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O i just thought of something, maybe they make it so you can just buy reg. codes from them, but in order to make a transaction for a reg. code you have to put in your "now useless" reg. code from your ps3 and have it associated with an active account to prove that you really bought it? And if all that checks out they let you just buy a reg. code? idk if this would work lol im just thinking of random solutions

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sorry last time i swear i just keep thinking of things that might make this work a little better. When you provide the "useless" reg. code you have to have that reg. code associated with your PC's reg. code showing that you bought both the PC and PS3 version.

In this day and age there may very well be a full download version for the PS3, PSN does support that kind of thing as we saw with DCUO. Problem is if you don't have an upgraded HDD, it takes up a TON of space compared to most any other game. It's a pain clearing all that space considering the PS3 actually has to make more room than it actually needs for downloads for whatever reason.

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I understand but it could be something SE just put in to try to cut down on piracy?

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Well, that might be part of it yes; You still had to buy the PS2 copy of FFXI to play on the PS2- but you didn't need to spend the registration code if you already had an account, meaning you could create a second account if you wanted.

While it would be nice to get both versions when you buy one of them like Valve did with Portal 2 on PS3 (the PC version did not give you the PS3/360 version though) S-E want to make money like any other company out there. DCUO only allowed you to download the client for free once it became free to play, before that you had to buy either the PS3 or PC version and there you could not play with the same account on both, you have to make two separate accounts.

So while it would be awesome if they gave current players a PSN code to download the PS3 client for free they would lose a ton of money on that and I doubt S-E is willing to lose more than they have already on FFXIV. :P

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Originally Posted by Lirion

While it would be nice to get both versions when you buy one of them like Valve did with Portal 2 on PS3 (the PC version did not give you the PS3/360 version though) S-E want to make money like any other company out there. DCUO only allowed you to download the client for free once it became free to play, before that you had to buy either the PS3 or PC version and there you could not play with the same account on both, you have to make two separate accounts.

So while it would be awesome if they gave current players a PSN code to download the PS3 client for free they would lose a ton of money on that and I doubt S-E is willing to lose more than they have already on FFXIV. :P

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And who's fault is that but thier own for losing money. They have customers who have been around since the beginning and were under the impression when launched it was a good game and would soon be released on the ps3. I really don't think it would be so much to ask to get a DL code, or have a PS network version that you can download for half cost, I don't know.

It's a subscription game, so they shouldnt be as worried about game copy sales as they should repeat monthly subscribers.. thats where the real bread n butter is

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Originally Posted by Anakhu

half cost, I don't know.

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The PS3 Version of ARR when it comes out is going to be 50% off.

Personally, I played FFXI initially on PC, then much much later on 360. When I got the 360 edition, I swapped between my 360 and PC based entirely on how I felt like playing that day. I remember one day I had off, I'd gotten into a Dunes party that lasted all freaking day, I was just geeking it out on the floor in front of my TV that day, I'll definitely miss it.

Yes, I play the game on my PC with a PS3 dualshock 3 controller. Yes, I could hook it up to my TV. But with my current set up, that's just not practical. Some months my PC isn't even in the same room as the TV. Between that and the PS3 chatpad I bought specifically for FFXIV, it's pretty much a done deal for me.