I don't like FF14, this is why I play it.

Hello,

First off, I'm aware you don't care, and that Square-Enix doesn't read the forums.

I still would like to at least pretend I'm letting Square-Enix know that gamers exist.

I personally have 100-200$ a month for my gaming budget.

I have 40-60 hours a week to game, despite working a full time job, because I live a clean simple life.

It just means I'm a gamer. I don't do drugs or go party, so all my free time is just gaming.

(I'm saying this because Naoki Yoshida, and Square-Enix seems to think gamers either don't exist or don't have time and money.)


The reason I don't like FF14 is because its just ungodly simple, easy, and bland.

(I curb this by manually tri-boxing the game. I currently don't even use macros, and will try to avoid using them for combat.)

I'm playing it because, well I have 40-60 hours a week to game, and I'm currently doing a Rune Level 1 playthrough on Elden Ring, and I'm almost done with it.

(FF14 is less stressful than Elden Ring and FFXI.)

I did basically everything I want to do in every game I have played and want to play, except FFXI, and FF14.

In FFXI I have to make at least 2-3 more Mythic weapons for my "static," and need at least 6-8 more Malignance armor pieces to keep progressing Odyssey.

I just absolutely hate Nyzul.

So I decided instead of 6 boxing FFXI where I have another 950 hours of Nyzul and paying 88$ a month on that game, I can 3-box FF14, and manually play this on my 3 desktops and have a more relaxing time here. Plus its cheaper, only 38$ a month.

What I do in FF14:
-Treasure maps (Dragonskin/Gazelleskin)
-Levequests
-Eureka

I haven't, and have no plans to buy any expansion after Shadowbringers. Shadowbringers was genuinely terrible in my opinion, so all my accounts will stay at Stormblood content until they make a better expansion with more content than Stormblood.

(I don't play for "story" the last story I did with my "main" was the last 5.3 "MSQ" "Reflections in Crystal" it was such a bad storyline that I quit right then and there, and have not done another quest since.)

I most likely will quit or return to FFXI before they release new content in FF14. Naoki Yoshida seems to want to turn this game from a Visual Novel (it stopped being a RPG once 2.0 released) into a Gacha game. (8.0 sounds like its being "reborn" into a full blown gacha MMO.)


TLDR:

I have 100-200$ a month for my gaming budget, and 40-60 hours a week to game, despite working a full time job, because I'm a gamer. Yes gamers exist Naoki Yoshida.

I dislike Nyzul in FFXI more than I dislike FF14 so I chose to play FF14 because its less stressful and cheaper.

Me: Hello, I'm Gwenkatsu, and I'm a gamer.
The group: Hello, Gwenkatsu.
Me: I don't like the direction of FF14, therefore I let my sub run out and am going to play something else. Bye.
The group: /shocked picachu face/

Thanks for listening.

Not gonna lie.

I have a free trial account, and I've had more fun on that, than what I have with my main account/character for the past few years at least. Unironically missing nothing of substance whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Siba_Lynxphur

Shadowbringers was genuinely terrible in my opinion.

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what.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. o/

This feels more like FFXI feedback than FFXIV feedback.

that's bait

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Originally Posted by Korrcen

what.

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Yep.

making me play errand boy for 50 quests, to get 3 three quests where they fake kill a character in the story is bad story writing in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Korrcen

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. o/

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Originally Posted by Siba_Lynxphur

This is why I play.

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(That means I've returned, not leaving.)

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

This feels more like FFXI feedback than FFXIV feedback.

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You're correct! Its both!

You see, Square-Enix is a gaming company, they own a franchise called "Final Fantasy" within that company and franchise they have two MMO games, (they have a 3rd even, but its a different franchise).

One is called "Final Fantasy XI" it is a MMORPG.
The other is called "Final Fantasy XIV" or "Final Fantasy XlV" because they wanted to make the roman numeral different for some reason, but then they changed it back for no reason. (Naoki Yoshida doesn't like the numbers in the franchise is the real reason.)

FFXIV is a MMO Visual Novel, on course (according to the producer) to be reborn into a MMO Gacha.

Since I regularly hop between the two, I have to explain, so including FFXI in the reason why I left XI to play 14 is perfectly logical and reasonable.

I left feedback on those forums too.

(Again, if you're not aware, Square-Enix doesn't even read the English forums. So don't worry they likely won't see this feedback. The only thing they do here is occasionally moderate to ban veterans who leave feedback that isn't super friendly and wholesome because it is run by the California department that can't handle criticism, even if its 100% logical, sound, and reasonable. So most likely this post will be deleted, ignored or cause me to get banned. So don't stress your heart one bit if you don't like what I said or did, because in the grand scheme of things it is irrelevant.)

Why post then? Cause its better to just say it, than to be silent.

Who knows, maybe for one split second things will make sense, Square-Enix will care, will read the feedback, might reconsider making it a RPG, and the game will be fun again.

But considering its been 12 years and the game is now in my opinion worse than version 1.23b (if you're playing Dawntrail content, with all these constant D/C's that is) I doubt it will happen.

I mean the game runs smoother than in 1.23b, but with the constant D/C's I am weary to even do any treasure maps. For now i'm just progressing my 24 characters instead. I might just do levequets, who knows. But yeah, I did post about what content I like in FFXIV and why I chose to play it instead of FFXI , so it is indeed still XIV feedback.

Again, do not worry your heart, it won't affect anything. The game will stay a visual novel but more on the gacha side according to Yoshida anyway.

I mean, you can save the $38 by completely quitting FFXIV and instead buy 2/3rd of a Switch 1st party game too :rolleyes:

$200 a month + 60 hrs a week = you force yourself to play FFXIV?

If truly there are no other games that you would find entertaining with that budget, maybe it's time to find a new hobby.

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Originally Posted by Regis_Paran

$200 a month + 60 hrs a week = you force yourself to play FFXIV?

If truly there are no other games that you would find entertaining with that budget, maybe it's time to find a new hobby.

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Exactly. Take up cycling, OP. It'll improve your life more than playing a game you seem to actively have disdain for. I'd never waste my gaming time on a game I, quote, do not like. What loser behavior tbh.

Back in my day bait used to be believable.

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Originally Posted by Kelg

Back in my day bait used to be believable.

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It's basically baby's first bait post.

Its kinda sad every response from xiv players to feedback is always dont play this game

I'll ignore most of what's either bait that says something about the OP as a person or simply evidence of someone in an obsessively toxic relationship with a video game and its leader, and just focus on one thing:

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(I'm saying this because Naoki Yoshida, and Square-Enix seems to think gamers either don't exist or don't have time and money.)

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I don't think I've ever seen Naoki Yoshida or SE say either of those things. What they have done is simply point out that those types of gamers aren't the main target audience of FFXIV. The majority of MMO players today have families and full-time careers, so the game is designed for those who only have limited time per week for gaming. (And Note: Those people are gamers, too.)

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Its kinda sad every response from xiv players to feedback is always dont play this game

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It sounds like this guy genuinely dislikes this game however (even says it in the title). There can be other criticisms made about the game that are completely valid and should be addressed but to multibox only to do lvl 70 maps and eureka doesn't sound like it's giving this guy the satisfaction he desires and doesn't seem to want to do anything else. Of course the most reasonable response would be to ask "Why play?".
Some people need to accept that this game just might not be for them and that's completely okay.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Its kinda sad every response from xiv players to feedback is always dont play this game

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This isn't feedback its some weird "This game sucks, Yoshi P hates gamers, but I have a lot of freetime so I need to spend it on a game that's relatively cheap, even though I hate the game. I am a gamer."

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Its kinda sad every response from xiv players to feedback is always dont play this game

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I mean it just seems like OP hasn't enjoyed FFXIV since 1.0, so I think "why have you stuck with this game for so long when you can spend your money and time elsewhere playing something you'll actually enjoy?" is a pretty valid conclusion.

Besides, the statements "This game hasn't been an RPG since 2.0" and "This game is going to turn into a gacha MMO by 8.0" can hardly be considered feedback when they lack any sort of evidence or how OP even came to these conclusions. I would say OP is dooming and making stuff up in their head, but this has to be bait.

I really hope its bate otherwise OP needs help
edit:this might not be bait she really does have tons of character from old days doing only pre-shb content for years....

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Originally Posted by Siba_Lynxphur

The reason I don't like FF14 is because its just ungodly simple, easy, and bland.

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I thought the other way around, especially in the case of crafting. Minmaxing the best way to craft hq items is quite complex.

Had me until you said you hated Nyzul.

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Originally Posted by TeresaFortell

I thought the other way around, especially in the case of crafting. Minmaxing the best way to craft hq items is quite complex.

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Were it not for crafting solvers such as Raphael that hand you near enough the most optimal solution for a given stat point, even if we excluded this solver, the crafting suite is dramatically simplified from how they used to be.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Its kinda sad every response from xiv players to feedback is always dont play this game

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When so much of the feedback is just people complaining how the game doesn't cater to them and it should be completely different because that's how they want it, it does kinda beg the question of why they're still paying to play.

Everything else aside, what made you think shb was terrible? That is, insofar as i know, the most beloved expac ff14 has made. I'm interested in what makes it fall behind so severely. Bear in mind, your answer(s) might be answered in later expacs, but I think this is a really interesting topic to address. The current split with ff14 players seems to stem from shb, so knowing why it's unappealing could be worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by game_enjoyer

Everything else aside, what made you think shb was terrible? That is, insofar as i know, the most beloved expac ff14 has made. I'm interested in what makes it fall behind so severely. Bear in mind, your answer(s) might be answered in later expacs, but I think this is a really interesting topic to address. The current split with ff14 players seems to stem from shb, so knowing why it's unappealing could be worthwhile.

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its not the story that folks seem to dislike. it was the content which has been the same since then

HW - final part was
Aetherochemical Research Facility - dungeon which you were getting to a location
Singularity Reactor -

SB final part was
Ala Mhigo - you were trying to kill zenos in his castle
Royal Menagerie - killing zenos pt2 (ongoing)

SHB final part was
Amurot - how the final days were came in history of etheris
The dying gasp - fighting the hot ascian with the power of bert & ernie

and this is where it gets repetitive for folks

EW
The dead ends - how the final days came in the universe
the final day - fighting angry twitter with the power of love and friendship

aaand dawntrail
Alexandria - how .. the storm serge came in history
the interphos - fighting AI with calm orange cat

even the inbetween patches use the historical replay and/or revist of everything already done-

heroes gauntlet SHB running back to the CT revisiting friends and comrades
Luna Subterrane EW - historical recreation of the past of the 14th
Meso Terminal DT - historical recreation of calyx past

NGL the main story history i eat into that.. but i see why folks are tired of the same thing occuring at the end of the expacs. and inbetween expacs

plus multitude of raiding and dungeon and other things were
cookie cutter cut out of SHB
and made into perma formula going forward.