If we're allowing more glamor versatility then we need way more dresser space

I'm ecstatic about the new glamor dresser, but there are items I've not bothered to add to my dresser because they don't go with anything in their class. And even with that my glamor dresser is full. Now we're getting so much more versatility, these items are going to get a second look by a lot of people. We need more glamor dresser space.

I'd go a step further: a glamour log. Every glamour you acquire is automatically saved in the dresser without any need for space or inventory management. And unlike the glamour sets, you can dye them forever with expensive dyes. If you also attach achievements to collecting different types or numbers of glamours, you essentially revive all content in the game.

This would also help with the inventory issue that this game has. More and more glamours and other items (the recent deep dungeon has at least 9 currencies plus the pilgrim's potions) keep being added but glamour, dyes and baits keep occupying space, and this is before we start talking about crafting materials. Where to even put them with such bloated inventories?

I fully agree. But I don't think we'll get that anytime soon unfortunately

I agree, they did state in the live letter right now their developers are working on the code to increase housing item limit and other housing stuff, once that's done they'd look at glamours and plates and open world activities, they said they have a priority system so I guess it's on their radar but their focus is on getting the housing stuff out first. :)

I'm desperately waiting for more "outfits" to condense down all the dungeon gear and such into more manageable storage. I don't want to have to clean out space and then have them finally get on with it once I no longer have the sets ready and waiting to convert.

I agree with OP, the more items they add to every expansion, the more dresser space we need. I'd like to bring some numbers to showcase how bad things can be for a collector like myself:

- For relic weapons alone, you would need to allocate 487 slots to store each of their replicas (including paladin shields). This does not even account for the upcoming two phases of the current relics, which would add 44 more, bringing the total to 531.
- Deep dungeon weapons now total 147, plus 7 shields.
- The Monster Hunter collaboration introduced 21 weapons, plus 1 shield.
- The Exquisite weapons from Criterion Savage have increased to a total of 22 in patch 7.0, plus 1 shield.
- Lastly, weapons from Ultimate raids now total 126, with an additional 6 for shields.

Altogether, this amounts to 818 items, which exceeds the current glamour dresser space by 18 slots... :mad:


On a positive note, I want to emphasize that allowing every gearset to be stored as an "outfit" would significantly alleviate glamour space issues. Enabling us to store sets that are above level 1 is a feature that is sorely needed.

The outfit feature was introduced in patch 7.1 almost a year ago. Surely, the developers are working on enabling this feature for everything else as well, right?

I don't think they should just add more dresser space. Don't get me wrong, I use every bit of it, and if they add more I'll use more. But I feel that's putting a band-aid on the problem. They need to completely re-work the way glams are stored, and find a way to make it effectively unlimited.

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Originally Posted by Guthcat

I'm ecstatic about the new glamor dresser, but there are items I've not bothered to add to my dresser because they don't go with anything in their class. And even with that my glamor dresser is full. Now we're getting so much more versatility, these items are going to get a second look by a lot of people. We need more glamor dresser space.

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I don't know. Maybe it's time to stop hoarding. 800 items is plenty in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Alicie

I don't know. Maybe it's time to stop hoarding. 800 items is plenty in my opinion.

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As an omni-100 for combat classes, no, not really. I'm going to be able to clear out some items that were duplicates that I wanted to wear on separate classes, but it's very, very easy to cap out items at end-game.

In WoW and Wildstar I had well over 1000 pieces saved to my Transmog List/Holowardrobe respectively. This game needs a similar system.

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Originally Posted by Jovakim

I agree with OP, the more items they add to every expansion, the more dresser space we need. I'd like to bring some numbers to showcase how bad things can be for a collector like myself:

- For relic weapons alone, you would need to allocate 487 slots to store each of their replicas (including paladin shields). This does not even account for the upcoming two phases of the current relics, which would add 44 more, bringing the total to 531.
- Deep dungeon weapons now total 147, plus 7 shields.
- The Monster Hunter collaboration introduced 21 weapons, plus 1 shield.
- The Exquisite weapons from Criterion Savage have increased to a total of 22 in patch 7.0, plus 1 shield.
- Lastly, weapons from Ultimate raids now total 126, with an additional 6 for shields.

Altogether, this amounts to 818 items, which exceeds the current glamour dresser space by 18 slots... :mad:


On a positive note, I want to emphasize that allowing every gearset to be stored as an "outfit" would significantly alleviate glamour space issues. Enabling us to store sets that are above level 1 is a feature that is sorely needed.

The outfit feature was introduced in patch 7.1 almost a year ago. Surely, the developers are working on enabling this feature for everything else as well, right?

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Rather than spend time on more outfit glamours, i'd rather they make the collection tab a reality.
It is sorely needed, and would add hundreds of hours of gameplay collecting every armor/weapon in the game.

We need a collection/log system.

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Originally Posted by Remarus

As an omni-100 for combat classes, no, not really. I'm going to be able to clear out some items that were duplicates that I wanted to wear on separate classes, but it's very, very easy to cap out items at end-game.

In WoW and Wildstar I had well over 1000 pieces saved to my Transmog List/Holowardrobe respectively. This game needs a similar system.

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How many of those items do you regularly use? I'm not disagreeing with the expansion request I'm just curious as someone who barely uses half the dresser. I also have all jobs maxed and audit the dresser every so often, if I haven't used something in a few months I just toss it.

You're going to save glamour space by getting rid of so much equipment that looks the same in your dresser, or things you only wore because they were the best option for that job. I'd organize and prepare for it before 7.4.

Adding more glamour slots is tricky for them, You got to understand this isn't just a simple inventory where "number goes up", glamour is an instance (map) that is accessed exclusively through non-combat instances (because instances can't occur during combat). This game and its servers are based on instancing, every little bit they add to glamour, housing, etc, is a further strain and engineering issue. But the server end has all been upgraded, so they are working on pushing those limits.

In PLL, Yoshida explained housing item limit and debuff limit are going to take priority over glamour dresser. It will be some time before we get more slots.

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Originally Posted by SalamanderIX

You're going to save glamour space by getting rid of so much equipment that looks the same in your dresser, or things you only wore because they were the best option for that job. I'd organize and prepare for it before 7.4.

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There isn't that much gear that looks exactly the same – there are different dye patterns and undyeable parts.

Also, as I said earlier, the fact that they're not telling us what's going on with outfit storage makes me very unwilling to throw out any parts of sets right now. If I'm using two parts of a set then I wouldn't want to throw out the other three pieces or accessories in case I need them to condense the two kept pieces into one slot. It's the lack of knowing that is causing gridlock right now.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

How many of those items do you regularly use? I'm not disagreeing with the expansion request I'm just curious as someone who barely uses half the dresser. I also have all jobs maxed and audit the dresser every so often, if I haven't used something in a few months I just toss it.

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A significant amount because I routinely switch it up. I also have a ton that I keep for Cosplay pieces. I have an entire series of Skies of Arcadia cosplays on Eorzea Collection for example.

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Originally Posted by Alicie

I don't know. Maybe it's time to stop hoarding. 800 items is plenty in my opinion.

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The day they give us another option to store all the cool job quest AF sets that can't be stored in the armoire or reacquired on demand from the calamity salvager sure. For instance:

ARR: ilvl90 set
HW: centurio ilvl210 set
SB: improved Eurekan AF set (dyable)
SHB: improved memoria misera AF set (dyable)

DoH/DoL: all expansions sets

If you add all of those together you're way over 1k items already. It's straining on retainers, it's straining on the dresser, and they still don't have glamour sets to be condensed like lvl1 glams. I worked to various degrees to get those (aka not just going to the job armorer like in EW or DT), and I don't want to discard them.

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Originally Posted by Jovakim

Altogether, this amounts to 818 items, which exceeds the current glamour dresser space by 18 slots... :mad:

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And yet this can be solved if they had a sort of vendor within the inn room which can sell you all the relic replicas or these special weapons, no need to store all of them in the dresser then. If you can easily buy them next to the dresser, it does save you a lot of hassle as you no longer need to find the specific vendor. The only reason to still store these is to preserve the dye on it.

It would be better if they were always available within the glamour dresser without taking any slot, but i can imagine this creating another problem, as the dye then can potentialy never be saved permanently (it still mimics an obtained item to store the info on, and with 20 plates this means 40 items stored).

I dont see any reason to store 818 weapons in the dresser all with their own dyes. Its far too unlikely that a player is going to need that many slots. For most of these weapons its just 'storing their hard to obtain reward'. And tbh, an armoure like storage for relic weapons would be a nice thing to have anyway (especialy if its only partialy completed relics). But they dont need to be available in the glam dresser then

If you read the translation, they are going to add more plates and dresser inventory slots but they are working on housing first.

Yoshi also said that they are looking at a massive glamour rework in the future. I would not be surprised if such a rework is a headliner feature in the next expansion.

They have almost gotten to the glam log, with the dresser sets.

Almost.

Just need to include all sets and give an UI that shows what you are missing.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

There isn't that much gear that looks exactly the same – there are different dye patterns and undyeable parts.

Also, as I said earlier, the fact that they're not telling us what's going on with outfit storage makes me very unwilling to throw out any parts of sets right now. If I'm using two parts of a set then I wouldn't want to throw out the other three pieces or accessories in case I need them to condense the two kept pieces into one slot. It's the lack of knowing that is causing gridlock right now.

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Yeah I’m saving gear sorting for when the change actually takes place. I’ll probably just look at the shared model sets and choose the one I like the dye pattern of the most, like Brightlinen versus Star Velvet, etc.

But I’ve already gone through my jewelry and saved about 30 slots! And if they do slowly start adding the outfit feature to other gear sets, that will save me some storage space as well: ever since the outfit feature came out, I’ve been collecting the entire set of anything I like just in case!

I am really hoping that all this is leading to an eventual catalog though… the one thing that strikes me is that outfits seem to function similarly to how items in the Armoire do… and they’ve been adding more categories to the Armoire tabs. I could see that being a launch point for the Armoire being tweaked to become a gear catalog, while the dresser just accesses it to set up your glamour plates.

Instead of hoarding every item ever, you can just realize some pieces are very easy to get and not store those ones.
Yes there are a lot out there that require a modicum of effort, but even most of those aren't going to set you back too much time.

Count me in as a +1 for the whole collection/catalogue idea.

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Originally Posted by Alicie

I don't know. Maybe it's time to stop hoarding. 800 items is plenty in my opinion.

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Your opinion is wrong. Which is remarkable; opinions generally can't be wrong by their very nature.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Instead of hoarding every item ever, you can just realize some pieces are very easy to get and not store those ones.
Yes there are a lot out there that require a modicum of effort, but even most of those aren't going to set you back too much time.

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So I've cleared out my dresser, but a good number of sets are from old ARs or non-leveling dungeons, so it's painful to glam farm them even if I'm doing nier 2-3 unsycn'd as no one will join my PF for 1 hour or just 1 person.

Yes, I've already folded all the lvl 1 glam sets into outfit glamours, so I saved 50+ slots, and I broke down all my repeated accessories a few hours ago still stuck at 550/800 and I'm not even done with gathering the other glam parts from tomes, nuts, ARs, or old savage raids.

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

Rather than spend time on more outfit glamours, i'd rather they make the collection tab a reality.
It is sorely needed, and would add hundreds of hours of gameplay collecting every armor/weapon in the game.

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This would actually be really neat and if we ever get this it would definitely go on my "list of things to do when I want to do something but not entirely sure what"

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

How many of those items do you regularly use? I'm not disagreeing with the expansion request I'm just curious as someone who barely uses half the dresser. I also have all jobs maxed and audit the dresser every so often, if I haven't used something in a few months I just toss it.

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I don't speak for them, but I know people who show up in a fully different glam every week I see them. Or that fantasia very often, so while they might not use certain pieces while they're a certain race, they will eventually use the rest when they change to another race. These are just examples off the top of my head. Personally, I also have to audit my dresser once or twice per expansion but I use almost all of whatever is left after the purge. Now that I was able to purge everything that looked and dyed the same (namely, Nier pieces) one of my character's dresser is sitting comfortably a little under 600. All of those pieces I do use, since lots are job/role-limited, but they see more or less use depending on what jobs I'm currently playing. I just love using AF pieces lol