Housing Feedback and Why The Excuse?

I’ve been playing the game for a long time and I had a house for a bit but didn’t own it for too long because irl and stuff.I love the vendors you can put in there so you don’t have to go out of your house and just stay there if you want.My feedback and question is,why hasn’t there been a tombstone vendor that access poeticts and current tomestone stuff as well?It’ll make housing more tempting for a lot of players because they have to stay sub or lose the house and that’s something Yoshi won’t change EVER.I have to say that when it comes to quality of life improvements in the game,ffxiv lacks so much that mods improve what the devs are too lazy to do themselves while they keep giving the players coping responses which I don’t fall for.

We really need the ability to place a glamour dresser. I have a house, I shouldn't need to leave and go rent an inn room just to change my clothes.

they've brought it up before that they don't really want players to stay locked up in their homes but to also experience the open world an build community but i do agree there are some things they could do to vastly improve player housing. one of which for me being instanced housing for solo players and for existing plots to have bigger item placement increases so houses dont feel so bare an empty.

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Originally Posted by Underscore

We really need the ability to place a glamour dresser. I have a house, I shouldn't need to leave and go rent an inn room just to change my clothes.

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They said that they tried it once and interacting with the dresser would immediately crash the test server. After that, they just gave up on the idea.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

They said that they tried it once and interacting with the dresser would immediately crash the test server. After that, they just gave up on the idea.

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I wish i could implement stuff, said oops crashed server, and cancel the feature. They could do it if they wanted to, they just chose not to bother. They could also do some middle ground and make some idk 'stylist' house in each ward, so we don't have to teleport to an in and back bc a glam needs to be fixed.

Yeah that's such an absurd explanation. "we tried to implement something and IT CRASHED THE TEST SERVER". Can you imagine the TEST server, CRASHING? We can't debug things that don't work right away. Hands are tied

I really don't understand why this game has such bizarre limitations like this. I wish they would just overhaul this system so we could at the very least know what's in our glamour dresser without visiting the inn room at the beginning of each gameplay session.

Ideally we would be able to access this system from anywhere, without actually needing to interact with an in game item, as quaint as that is.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

they've brought it up before that they don't really want players to stay locked up in their homes but to also experience the open world an build community

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lol what a lame excuse. That ship sailed long ago when they put in an aggresive duty/party finder, teleports to absolutely everywhere, nothing interesting in the open world and decided to only add content that can be easily pug'd and only lasts 3 months tops. You can't make a game that doesn't demand cooperation or community and then say you can't do something because you want your players to cooperate and build community.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

they've brought it up before that they don't really want players to stay locked up in their homes but to also experience the open world an build community but i do agree there are some things they could do to vastly improve player housing. one of which for me being instanced housing for solo players and for existing plots to have bigger item placement increases so houses dont feel so bare an empty.

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Guess they shouldn't have scrapped the original director's dream of open world housing. lol

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Originally Posted by Daralii

They said that they tried it once and interacting with the dresser would immediately crash the test server. After that, they just gave up on the idea.

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IIRC it was when someone moved the dresser while another player was interacting with it - a problem easily solved by making it immovable while in use.

Eh, we have an entire housing forum dedicated to their complaints, tho. Also, I can't ever see them adding the tome vendors in even the inn since it would make the entire final hub empty, and it would look bad to new players.

Why are housing so expensive. For a game feature it seems very prohibitive. I could understand when there were only companies who could afford housing. Now there are many who can buy them for personal use. Everyone should have their own house now in the city they wish to add it. If you want a bigger house then make people pay for it.
Instead of making housing such a niche enterprise, why not add it as a selling point to the game. Even Wow will be giving all players housing in the next expansion.

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

Eh, we have an entire housing forum dedicated to their complaints, tho. Also, I can't ever see them adding the tome vendors in even the inn since it would make the entire final hub empty, and it would look bad to new players.

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I would be very happy if I never needed to visit S9 again.

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Originally Posted by syldon

Why are housing so expensive. For a game feature it seems very prohibitive. I could understand when there were only companies who could afford housing. Now there are many who can buy them for personal use. Everyone should have their own house now in the city they wish to add it. If you want a bigger house then make people pay for it.
Instead of making housing such a niche enterprise, why not add it as a selling point to the game. Even Wow will be giving all players housing in the next expansion.

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I don't understand as the smallest plot is only 3-4m gold not including the actual permit if you won it. Where does the gil go if you're at endgame and can't spare 3m?

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Originally Posted by syldon

Why are housing so expensive.

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Are you familiar with the concept of money sinks in MMOs? it's type of feature that exists purely to remove money from the economy and therefor reduce inflation, usually those features are seen as luxuries, which is what housing is in FFXIV. This is the goal of housing in FFXIV, it's not a great one purely because of availability, but if the system allowed them to remove upwards to 45-50 million from the economy per character, it would be pretty good.

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Originally Posted by virianna

I wish i could implement stuff, said oops crashed server, and cancel the feature. They could do it if they wanted to, they just chose not to bother. They could also do some middle ground and make some idk 'stylist' house in each ward, so we don't have to teleport to an in and back bc a glam needs to be fixed.

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I think this was a long long time ago too, so it might be that they gave up on it because of hardware limitations (staring at old ass consoles being supported back then) and just never got around to it again. Considering they might be dropping PS4 at some point, it could be a good time to see if they can untangle some of the spaghetti keeping the game together.

Someone suggested adding a mini "dressing room" type of instance you can access from your house which would have the glamour dresser to alleviate issues arising from people manipulating the dresser from the housing menu while someone is using it, but I'd honestly just rather have it in the same way we have retainer bells and armoires.
I think having a "boutique" type of building like you said would be nice middle ground too, so apartments can also access it!

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

Eh, we have an entire housing forum dedicated to their complaints, tho. Also, I can't ever see them adding the tome vendors in even the inn since it would make the entire final hub empty, and it would look bad to new players.

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Yes, but not really? I personally would never set foot on those towns if I could grab my stuff from, say, my apartment, but that's just because I'm never there to begin with. Those who like to hang out in the max level areas will likely continue to do so, either because they like the area itself or because they like to see other max level players around but don't wanna go to Limsa. I don't think things would change much, tbh.

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Originally Posted by syldon

Why are housing so expensive. For a game feature it seems very prohibitive. I could understand when there were only companies who could afford housing. Now there are many who can buy them for personal use. Everyone should have their own house now in the city they wish to add it. If you want a bigger house then make people pay for it.
Instead of making housing such a niche enterprise, why not add it as a selling point to the game. Even Wow will be giving all players housing in the next expansion.

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Housing has always been a gil sink from its inception. It was designed as something for rich legacy players to dump their gil on and hopefully even out the playing ground for players who joined after the release of ARR. To SE, housing is simply a random side thing they add a feature or two every blue moon, pretty much... I do wish it was a bigger part of the game, because it has a ton of potential.

I personally wouldn't trust WoW until I see what they actually release. I haven't played it myself, but I heard they have a reputation for making big promises and barely delivering in the end. They also have the advantage of seeing everything XIV did wrong and simply making a system that is not burdened by whatever is wrong with SE's code, so there's that to... we'll see when we can actually play it.

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

I don't understand as the smallest plot is only 3-4m gold not including the actual permit if you won it. Where does the gil go if you're at endgame and can't spare 3m?

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But there is a huge limitation on how many houses there are available. One house had 97 contestants in the last round.

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Originally Posted by syldon

But there is a huge limitation on how many houses there are available. One house had 97 contestants in the last round.

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It's a world based problem.

Currently there's 160 plots open on Phoenix, this includes smalls - large.

Other worlds there are way more unoccupied, thus they (SQE) do not see the problem.

Of course housing is more plentiful on nearly-empty DCs. If you have a character there, you can probably get a house, due to lack of other players competing to buy one.

But you'll seldom be able to queue for or run content while you're "home," due to lack of players to play with.

I just don't understand why SE doesn't get this or care about it.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/1020-Housing

They could implement the glamour dresser in personals/FC houses if they really wanted to.
I had an idea once that ALL houses get an instanced "inn" type of room that could act as a log off point (like an inn), glamour dresser, a retainer bell, etc. For FC houses it could be a separate room anyone could access from the FC room/workshop menu, but it's a personal instance (like with inns).

Still waiting on that increase on items to place though

We cant even log out in our homes beds.
Id love too see at least that if not the Glam dresser as well.

I remember them saying there was an issue with the Glam dresser and beds being tied too the inn room functionality and they couldn't split it off without breaking stuff.
Id suggest a door item we can place on any wall that transports us too an instanced 'bedroom' with the inn functions. Let us choose the bed design, walls, floors etc and some premade design sets. Easy. They can make new inn's each expansion, a housing 'inn room' instance should be doable.

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Originally Posted by Sililos

Id suggest a door item we can place on any wall that transports us too an instanced 'bedroom' with the inn functions. Let us choose the bed design, walls, floors etc and some premade design sets. Easy. They can make new inn's each expansion, a housing 'inn room' instance should be doable.

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By far the easiest way they could accomplish this is to allow personal homes to have the same ability to add/access additional rooms, and then add the “inn room” to the UI’s list of rooms to access. Then just copy/paste an inn room, matching whatever neighborhood style you’ve chosen for your house (since it’s not dependent on your actual neighborhood now). That way they don’t really have to design anything new, they’re just adding another access point to something that already exists.

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Originally Posted by IronThistle

Of course housing is more plentiful on nearly-empty DCs. If you have a character there, you can probably get a house, due to lack of other players competing to buy one.

But you'll seldom be able to queue for or run content while you're "home," due to lack of players to play with.

I just don't understand why SE doesn't get this or care about it.

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wdym the last reset of the NA and EU auto demo freed like 2k-3k plots back into the game. I'm on a smaller aether world that has 140 open plots, a mix of M and S plots that have been empty for weeks by now I see the empty FC plots when I check retainers every day.

However, if you want an M or L plot, you need to prepare to suffer since they're super rare, but if you want a normal S plot, they're out there now, not forever, with zero bids on aether DC. You don't even need to DC travel for raids if you transfer here since it's a super active PF and raiding scene as some worlds were unlocked last patch.