The Buff cap needs either extended, or ideally removed.

Pretty self explanatory. The buff cap needs to either be extended out way, way more, or ideally, just remove it. It limits job design, makes certain encounters more of an annoyance than necessary, and causes players to screw up their rotations through no fault of their own. Players should not have to go, "oh I should sequence my burst slightly differently because I have reached buff cap." Especially if OC's phantom job system is going to be expanded for further experimentation.

To make matters worse, it's as if the developers producing battle content are not aware of this limitation. TOP had the notorious P3 memes where people would hit enrage due to so many enchantments during 2-minute bursts, missing critical personal or raid buffs. Field Ops content is also notorious for these issues.

They also don't design new abilities while being aware of the fact. There are many abilities that give multiple buff that could easily be done with only 1 or 2. If I were to give an example, it would be Monk's "Fire's Reply"

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Deals damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 1,400 for the first enemy, and 35% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Grants Formless Fist, allowing the execution of a weaponskill that requires a certain form, without being in that form
Duration: 30s
Any additional effects associated with the executed action will also be applied.
Can only be executed while under the effect of Fire's Rumination.

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There is no reason for Fire's Reply to require Fire's Rumination buff because both the Riddle of Fire and Fire's Rumination buffs are 20 secs, so there is no way to delay Fire's Reply outside of Riddle of Fire. They could give Fire's Reply 30 sec cooldown and tie it into Riddle of Fire buff instead. So now, Riddle of Fire only gives Monk 1 buff instead of 2. And don't get me started on the defensive buffs that healers give.

Yes, it should. There's this thread on the matter, should you wish to support it with a comment and upvote.

I feel like field content would also benefit from a type of “totem” in which you could place every field content specific permanent buff onto it (including armour) to reduce buff clutter in field content

Like going into say DRS and you have 3 rays, resurrection restriction, shell, protect all the boss specific debuffs and your buffs. Forked tower has resurrection restriction, shell, mastery stacks, hoofin it and all relevant mechanics

Can they just allow us to place all the armour, rays, and other permanent buffs onto a totem in the camp so that we only have 1 buff active which is just “totem buff active”

Buff overcap in field content is just ridiculous

They won't remove the cap but they should extend it. Whatever network limitation they think there is can be worked around, because it's the job of a programmer to make things possible, not to tell their bosses that it's not possible.

I wonder if that is what made DoT actions so sparse nowadays... And most importantly, if that would mean we may really never see a true dot-heavy job again.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I wonder if that is what made DoT actions so sparse nowadays... And most importantly, if that would mean we may really never see a true dot-heavy job again.

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Boss debuff limits are an entirely different thing and they are basically only ever reached in 3 duties; BA, DRS and FTB

personal buff limit is a much bigger concern

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Boss debuff limits are an entirely different thing and they are basically only ever reached in 3 duties; BA, DRS and FTB

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I swear I remember my DoTs dropping off long ago in Alliance Raids or on hunts. I think the only reason I stopped noticing it actually was because I enabled the "only show my own DoTs" feature. I remember it happening a lot in the Heavensward alliance raids such as Dun Scaith when I did them regularly on Bard.

As such, it could be a concern in rare cases if, say, Ninja's damage vuln or Reprisal dropped off. I think to combat this they have a priority system of status types? But it's still annoying when your effects drop off. It was so annoying constantly having to refresh my DoT on Bard then all the other jobs pushing it off the boss with their own.

I actually assumed it was just a display bug (client cap not server cap). I thought, surely it's not actually removing it, and I'm just refreshing the DoT in case. But when I learned of the buff cap issues some people were getting with the 2 minute burst and also in BA/DRS, I realized it must have actually been erasing people's DoTs.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They won't remove the cap but they should extend it. Whatever network limitation they think there is can be worked around, because it's the job of a programmer to make things possible, not to tell their bosses that it's not possible.

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They tried some time ago for 8-ppl content, brought a game breaking bug with it, reverted it, and never spoke a word of anything. Still waiting on them to try again.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I swear I remember my DoTs dropping off long ago in Alliance Raids or on hunts. I think the only reason I stopped noticing it actually was because I enabled the "only show my own DoTs" feature. I remember it happening a lot in the Heavensward alliance raids such as Dun Scaith when I did them regularly on Bard..

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The boss buff/debuff bars are slightly weird. They have a cap of 60 effects they can have on them at one time, however, it only shows the first 30. If your DoT happens to land in that second half, it's effects will still be applied, but you just cannot see them. If you refresh DoTs before they fall off, it just refreshes the timer, so they stayed hidden. If, however, you let the DoT fall off, you could reapply it and, if there was an 'empty' slot in the first 30, it would end up there and be visible again.

To my knowledge, the 'only show my DoTs' worked the same way. If your DoT happened to be in the first 30 on the list, it got displayed, of it was in the last 30, it wouldn't display, even if you had the option enabled (though I could be misremembering on that part).

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Originally Posted by Mikey_R

The boss buff/debuff bars are slightly weird. They have a cap of 60 effects they can have on them at one time, however, it only shows the first 30. If your DoT happens to land in that second half, it's effects will still be applied, but you just cannot see them. If you refresh DoTs before they fall off, it just refreshes the timer, so they stayed hidden. If, however, you let the DoT fall off, you could reapply it and, if there was an 'empty' slot in the first 30, it would end up there and be visible again.

To my knowledge, the 'only show my DoTs' worked the same way. If your DoT happened to be in the first 30 on the list, it got displayed, of it was in the last 30, it wouldn't display, even if you had the option enabled (though I could be misremembering on that part).

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Technically, the debuff cap is 200 (or was it 300?) but only on certain enemies (mostly Alliance raid bosses and Field Operation bosses do not necessarily count as such). The part about showing only 30 is true.

They increased it somewhere during ShB iirc and should be in one of the patch notes.

Just remove a lot of the generic raid buffs at this point, does adding your generic 5% "everyone does more damage every 2minutes" buff mean anything when most jobs have this sort of buff... It's at this point more unique to not bring any damage buffs.

Ideally it would be raised still just in case, but the core issue is that we just have too many buffs in the first place.

Added to the long list of "problems WoW had back in the day but is already solved now"

I remember back in Heavensward being unable to Dreadwyrm Trance because my dots wouldnt apply to alliance raid bosses so my Festers would miss. But there are so few dots in the game now that I don't tihnk it would really be a problem if they brought some dots back.

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Originally Posted by Emitans

I remember back in Heavensward being unable to Dreadwyrm Trance because my dots wouldnt apply to alliance raid bosses so my Festers would miss. But there are so few dots in the game now that I don't tihnk it would really be a problem if they brought some dots back.

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I remember this, too.

I also remember DoTs vanishing was an issue with the Odin and Behemoth FATES in particular since so many players would be participating. Even if 300 is the cap, 50-is players would smash right past that. It was often best to go as a White Mage and spam Medical 2 since that built aggro reliably.

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Just remove a lot of the generic raid buffs at this point, does adding your generic 5% "everyone does more damage every 2minutes" buff mean anything when most jobs have this sort of buff... It's at this point more unique to not bring any damage buffs.

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We actually don't have many "just give 5%" more damage buffs that are generic. The only one really we have that fits that description is astro. Basically every other raid buff gives something in return to the caster of said buff or does something besides a straight damage increase. It also doesn't help with the core issue of there being a buff cap in the first place and that in more and more content it becomes... annoyingly pertinent for certain classes.