I'm not sure if I missed something but I took a break from the game back in Dec and now back for the new patch. I enjoyed pvp but playing MNK my moves seem delayed or not as snappy as I remember. Feels like it takes an age for Riddle of Earth to go off and my combos dont feel instant. Not sure if its my ping or if something changed. I feel like I'm loosing my mind.
Moves fell delayed is it my ping or things changed?
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03-20-2025, 01:06 AMYourBoiiMoves fell delayed is it my ping or things changed?
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03-20-2025, 01:29 AMExmo
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...4dd0ed13ce530a
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The timing with which certain PvP action effects trigger has been changed.
Hit detection of PvP actions has been adjusted to better match visual effects striking a target.
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03-20-2025, 01:40 AMYourBoii
Thanks for the info! I get it for some moves but for my instant MNK moves feels bad.
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03-20-2025, 01:54 AMVolfe
It takes some time to get used to it but you can still do some good combos with the delay. Fire's reply + Meteordrive into a Guarding target will hit them for the full 32/36k for example.
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03-20-2025, 04:17 AMMawlzy
When the changes were made, the accompanying notes explained that this was to make PvP feel more reactive.
Maybe something got lost in translation, because nobody has had this experience. -
03-20-2025, 04:21 AMAtreus
The changes were done due to snapshotting issues. Players (mainly in CC) would be solidly in Guard and still take maximum damage because long-animation moves were pressed just beforehand. If you didn't foresee the damage, you were dead. Now it allows you to take action before animations resolve.
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03-20-2025, 06:17 AMYourBoiiYea, I get it on things like maybe a dash like the warriors spin or something but the delay on my instant moves feels off, delayed, and clunky. I don't like it at all. I'm a mnk in your face but my moves are delayed....so lame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atreus
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03-20-2025, 06:24 AMMawlzyI think one does get somewhat used to it with repetition, but I completely agree some jobs just feel awful. I switched from maining WAR because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by YourBoii
What I found really... "surprising" (?) ... is that, despite a long laundry list of changes the players have suggested, the hit detection/animation lock changes were not requested by any players to my knowledge.
And yet whenever I get the GM response after reporting someone for lethargic play in FL, it includes the recommendation I post suggestions for change on the official forums. -
03-20-2025, 11:07 PMAtreusWell when someone else is in YOUR face, you'll appreciate that defending feels more reactive.Quote:
Originally Posted by YourBoii
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03-21-2025, 06:50 AMYourBoiiNaw, I tried blm because I use to play it too and it still feels lame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atreus
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03-21-2025, 08:16 AMYourBoiiMaybe I get use to it like some have said but my instant spells not being instant feels so so dumb. Like Earths reply literally taking like 2 or 3 secs to heal me for a instant spell to finish its animation is just silly. It should say "after 2 or 3 secs" just feels off compared to before. Probably because animations were not made to take this game play in to account. Its just feels like I'm consistently lagging all the time. I think this was a bad choice to make so abruptly. Maybe fore some skills but others just feel out right bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atreus
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03-21-2025, 08:28 PMValence
Some jobs still suffer from a bad flow and feel tied to it, but the most egregious problem for me that really feels awful is on defensives and heals that take too long, like RoE, Guardian, Waltz, etc. Even recuperate at times.
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03-24-2025, 07:12 AMSpritePRSure if burst works at all. I rather have my second stack of aetherial manipQuote:
Originally Posted by Atreus
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03-24-2025, 10:43 PMMercury_Grey
i'm honestly kind of glad theyr emoved teh quickcast from aetherial manipulation, but burst being instant is a trade i'll take or the cc being tied to their limit break if i read the patch notes right of the change in 7.1