Drop all the content on the patch not just a few things

Patch 7.0 (editing because 7.1 was said in error) has been up for 29 weeks and only just finished releasing its content. That's close to 7 months for one whole patch. It's really just not okay anymore.

The time gating prevents people even grinding the beast tribes or gear they want. No sign of savage unlock. No echo to help smaller raiders.

I know we've all complained a lot but I'm gona be real. The patches aren't stretching the value of my sub. Unless just logging on is what I'm paying for in which case there's a perfectly good and serviceable free trial.

I like them staggering the content, otherwise some of it gets kind of lost. I don't really mind either way, but I can see the merit in not releasing everything at once.

OK just unsub

You've been crying about this game for months, just unsub. Plenty of mods to let you ERP with your boyfriend on the free trial.

You do realize people like you who never unsub is why this game is so bad lmao

they know they can get away with having no content because people will keep subbing

But 7.1 released in November, that's 12 weeks, not 29 ._.

Note: Patch 7.1 was released on Nov. 12th, 2024. It's been out for 11 weeks, or just under 3 months, nowhere near the time you're claiming.

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Originally Posted by Feelynn

But 7.1 released in November, that's 12 weeks, not 29 ._.

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Okay, I am not tripping, I returned to the game late October, and it was still 7.0 back then, I couldn't be fucked to think it through but it did not sound like 7 months to me, even remotely.

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

OK just unsub

You've been crying about this game for months, just unsub. Plenty of mods to let you ERP with your boyfriend on the free trial.

You do realize people like you who never unsub is why this game is so bad lmao

they know they can get away with having no content because people will keep subbing

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Honestly this lmao, these people only subbing to complain on the forums, such as OP are what is driving SE to keep everything as it is.

Surely they can keep coping about "7.2 might be better i'll wait", then "7.3 might be better i'll wait" rinse and repeat until the end of times.

I like it being split up into mini patches. I thought it was a really good and considerate idea by SE. It spreads it out so I'm not overwhelmed and pressured to do too much in one day, since you only experience the rush of doing content once, completely blind on day 1.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I like it being split up into mini patches. I thought it was a really good and considerate idea by SE. It spreads it out so I'm not overwhelmed and pressured to do too much in one day, since you only experience the rush of doing content once, completely blind on day 1.

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"overwhelmed and pressured to do too much in one day" in FFXIV .........

https://media1.giphy.com/media/VM01S...=200w.gif&ct=g

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Originally Posted by Clockworks

"overwhelmed and pressured to do too much in one day" in FFXIV .........

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Yes, I know some people don't feel overwhelmed because they ignore most content, but it personally has overwhelmed me when they've put too much in since you can only do one thing at a time. Duty Support helped because it meant I could put MSQ off, due to it being done with NPCs.

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Originally Posted by Feelynn

But 7.1 released in November, that's 12 weeks, not 29 ._.

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sorry i made an error. It was 29 weeks in total from when DAWNTRAIL released that we had to wait for all of 7.1 to finish. instead of the standard 4 months were promised. It would not be an issue if they removed drip feeding

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I like it being split up into mini patches. I thought it was a really good and considerate idea by SE. It spreads it out so I'm not overwhelmed and pressured to do too much in one day, since you only experience the rush of doing content once, completely blind on day 1.

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Respectfully, this type of FOMO is on you if you have the mindset that you "have" to play instead of playing content when you feel like it. However, you can only play content when you feel like it when there is any content to play at all. Are you also complaining that Netflix has too many shows to pick from? Amazon has too many items? Spotify too much music?

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Respectfully, this type of FOMO is on you if you have the mindset that you "have" to play instead of playing content when you feel like it. However, you can only play content when you feel like it when there is any content to play at all. Are you also complaining that Netflix has too many shows to pick from? Amazon has too many items? Spotify too much music?

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Being overwhelmed with too much choice is actually a real issue in game design. To give an example, many open world games suffer from this issue where they throw you into a huge world with so many things to do that you kind of lose direction. A large number of players can feel so overwhelmed that they just drop the game. In the case of ffxiv I would not say it has this issue cause the content is so short and insignificant, but in other games it can definitely happen.

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Originally Posted by Buttobi

Being overwhelmed with too much choice is actually a real issue in game design. To give an example, many open world games suffer from this issue where they throw you into a huge world with so many things to do that you kind of lose direction. A large number of players can feel so overwhelmed that they just drop the game. In the case of ffxiv I would not say it has this issue cause the content is so short and insignificant, but in other games it can definitely happen.

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As you said. We are very far away from that state. I usually don't say that, but this is the most non-issue in this game.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Respectfully, this type of FOMO is on you if you have the mindset that you "have" to play instead of playing content when you feel like it.

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It's not, because if you actually play the game you quickly discover there is a rush on day 1 and that is a particularly fun experience. If you do it too late, people spoil it and explain mechanics as well.

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Are you also complaining that Netflix has too many shows to pick from? Amazon has too many items? Spotify too much music?

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Since that is effectively like Duty Support content because you can do it alone.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's not, because if you actually play the game you quickly discover there is a rush on day 1 and that is a particularly fun experience. If you do it too late, people spoil it and explain mechanics as well.
Since that is effectively like Duty Support content because you can do it alone.

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Then you might want to consider not engaging with people who ruin the experience for you.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Then you might want to consider not engaging with people who ruin the experience for you.

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You can't avoid it in new content, especially alliance raids, where everyone knows the mechanics once it's been out for more than an hour and especially after more than 1 day. As in you can see them going to the right places anyway, even if they don't try to spoil it.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

You can't avoid it in new content, especially alliance raids, where everyone knows the mechanics once it's been out for more than an hour and especially after more than 1 day. As in you can see them going to the right places anyway, even if they don't try to spoil it.

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So, you want everyone to get as little content as possible because your own fun and schedule is more important.

To be honest, this is just another symptom of the core issue if current content just not being enough. If they drop everything at once, we still have a bad situation where we are without good content for months. Not saying the current system is better, but dropping everything on 1 patch will not solve anything either.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

So, you want everyone to get as little content as possible because your own fun and schedule is more important.

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Spreading it out just makes sense, that's all.

Drip feeding contents only makes the announcement page look more 'active'. It may look fine to outsiders cause it might make them think "oh the dev care about this game regularly". It also funnels more players into whichever content they decide to release at XYZ schedules, thus masking these players from thinking how empty to places of activities are compared to the barren plains just outside the settlements 100y away. At least on paper, that is.

Of course, dropping us all the content at 7.1 wouldn't fix the lull that follows after either. At the end of the day their decision to drip feed us the content feels like one of those "all flashes no substances"-kind of decision.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Yes, I know some people don't feel overwhelmed because they ignore most content, but it personally has overwhelmed me when they've put too much in since you can only do one thing at a time. Duty Support helped because it meant I could put MSQ off, due to it being done with NPCs.

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when was the last time they released so much at one time that people got overwhelmed?

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's not, because if you actually play the game you quickly discover there is a rush on day 1 and that is a particularly fun experience. If you do it too late, people spoil it and explain mechanics as well.
Since that is effectively like Duty Support content because you can do it alone.

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lol how dare people explain mechanics :D been out of the forums for a while but you are gettiing old man. Your defend SE at all costs comments are getting weaker

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Yes, I know some people don't feel overwhelmed because they ignore most content, but it personally has overwhelmed me when they've put too much in since you can only do one thing at a time. Duty Support helped because it meant I could put MSQ off, due to it being done with NPCs.

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What content did they add since shadowbringers that you can be overwhelmed by? Bozja patches were the last thing they ever added that you could reasonably be "overwhelmed" by, there has been no content they have added since then that could take you more than a week to complete. The problem isn't staggering content or long patch cycles, it's the fact that the patches don't have content that'll last long enough to fill those gaps inbetween them. If every patch since endwalker dropped all it's content on patch day it'd take you 2 weeks or so to get through the entire patch's worth of content, maybe a month if your savage runs go badly. This game needs grindy or another form of long lasting content badly.

Maybe I am exaggerating but I'm kind of tired of savage being the only thing to do in this game. Also yes I did unsub I'm posting thanks to the free login campaign.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Spreading it out just makes sense, that's all.

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It doesnt. It just forces you to sub longer. And then you see people calling others to just 'quit'.

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Originally Posted by Dante131

when was the last time they released so much at one time that people got overwhelmed?

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From having anxiety to use X job/role/skill/mount/emote/log in etc to "don't release too much content because my anxiety issues won't let me do anything" And the sad part it seems SE only listen to them.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

It just forces you to sub longer.

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That's all there is to it.

Honestly, there are good reasons why content should be spaced out that are not "increases subscription time" - it helps fight choice paralysis, for example, or funnels a greater number of players in a singular direction, which means content is more populated, which also reduces queue times. The problem is not the spacing out of the content itself, its the amount of shelf life / play time the content has, the cadence of updates, and the variety of content offered.

When CS3 frontloads "one and done" kinda of content in an expansion, and plans to release longer shelf life content further back then of course people will feel like there is nothing to do. Releasing everything at once would bring different kinda issues really.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

Honestly, there are good reasons why content should be spaced out that are not "increases subscription time" - it helps fight choice paralysis, for example, or funnels a greater number of players in a singular direction, which means content is more populated, which also reduces queue times. The problem is not the spacing out of the content itself, its the amount of shelf life / play time the content has, the cadence of updates, and the variety of content offered.

When CS3 frontloads "one and done" kinda of content in an expansion, and plans to release longer shelf life content further back then of course people will feel like there is nothing to do. Releasing everything at once would bring different kinda issues really.

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It wouldnt be an issue if the content would last, but it isn't.
I dont see any reason delaying 10min-worthy quests to a later date. It gives an unpolished impression.

Sure they can stagger it but one week per mini patch is enough, the months of wait for simple stuff is just insane and really kills lots of fun >_>

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

It wouldnt be an issue if the content would last, but it isn't.
I dont see any reason delaying 10min-worthy quests to a later date. It gives an unpolished impression.

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I mean... yes? I don't disagree with that notion. If the content would last, then we would not be having this discussion.
Current content cadence paired with content lifetime results in what we experience currently.
Releasing the finale to the Role Actions quest only now in January was... certainly a choice they made.

For people who like the staggered release, they could maybe do like a drop a week rather then a drop a month

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Originally Posted by Wasselin

I like them staggering the content, otherwise some of it gets kind of lost. I don't really mind either way, but I can see the merit in not releasing everything at once.

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Yeah I like to wait 9 months to do things too thats already outdated! how can you be fine with getting a fraction of a game that you play through in a couple hours thats supposed to be it for MONTHS?!

Under 3 months which will soon be 3 months of no new content which is still a terrible performance xD

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Originally Posted by LilaIronman

Yeah I like to wait 9 months to do things too thats already outdated! how can you be fine with getting a fraction of a game that you play through in a couple hours thats supposed to be it for MONTHS?!

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Imagine if the alliance raid AND the single hildibrand quest released at the same time, there would just be too much content how could I possibly keep up?

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Under 3 months which will soon be 3 months of no new content which is still a terrible performance xD

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Even when 7.2 drops itl be 12 weeks in before it's even finished dropping :/

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Sure they can stagger it but one week per mini patch is enough, the months of wait for simple stuff is just insane and really kills lots of fun >_>

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I agree. I don't mind that bigger stuff like chaotic raid or exploration zones get added 1-2 months later, its big content after all. But it bothers me when they stagger simple stuff like custom deliveries. Those should always be on patch launch imo.

My current project between content patches is to make some friends.

I used to have an all day chat room in 2.× on PS4. I miss it.