housing on islands

With the RNG of the Lotto for the housing stuff now I was thinking that it might be a good idea especially for those that have completed endwalker and gotten their island that maybe they could add a personal house or even use it as a guild house on someones own island. If they did this then it could even open up plots for those that have just started or wanted a certain location for a guild house cause then u could build a house of the size u want on your island as long as someone was that far in the game. Currently there isnt alot to do with your island when u max it out unless using it to farm items for selling.

There needs to be a friends who's limited instance housing. So that way whoever wants to decorate and invite their friends over can, However your house will not be able to be used as a venue. Or freely accessible like the ward houses.

If it's off the demolition timer then it needs trade off.

You want the visibility/venue but don't have a plot? buy a apt

You want housing but want to take breaks frequently? Apts/instanced plot

You want something bigger/visible/venue and are willing to stay subbed for extended periods? Try for a ward plot.

You don't care about the visibility/venue , but just want something to decorate? Instanced housing that's friends list limited

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Originally Posted by Solowing

There needs to be a friends who's limited instance housing. So that way whoever wants to decorate and invite their friends over can, However your house will not be able to be used as a venue. Or freely accessible like the ward houses.

If it's off the demolition timer then it needs trade off.

You want the visibility/venue but don't have a plot? buy a apt

You want housing but want to take breaks frequently? Apts/instanced plot

You want something bigger/visible/venue and are willing to stay subbed for extended periods? Try for a ward plot.

You don't care about the visibility/venue , but just want something to decorate? Instanced housing that's friends list limited

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But why? People aren't suggesting instance housing because they don't want to be in a ward, they're suggesting instance housing because they cannot get a house because they current system is awful.

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Originally Posted by Espon

But why? People aren't suggesting instance housing because they don't want to be in a ward, they're suggesting instance housing because they cannot get a house because they current system is awful.

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Well here starts this again. *hugs* prepare to be chewed out hun. :<

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Originally Posted by Espon

But why? People aren't suggesting instance housing because they don't want to be in a ward, they're suggesting instance housing because they cannot get a house because they current system is awful.

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Are they, or are they not locked out of housing entirely?

Is there any detriment to not owning a plot, over an apartment?
(anything that wouldn't be applicable from a small to a medium or a medium to a large)


I myself have 2 homes (Cottages) and 5 Apt sized spaces, (wanting a 6th room) to me its not about the size of the space, but how do you make the most of it.

Besides what makes the housing system so bad? That plots are finite? And what else? (Not enough outdoor slots?)

You have to bid in a now completely fair system that accounts for players with less spare time to play

housing mirage is going to allow everyone to have a mansion regardless of what size plot they are housed on

Arnt they looking to increase the item count for all housing sizes?

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Are they, or are they not locked out of housing entirely?

Is there any detriment to not owning a plot, over an apartment?
(anything that wouldn't be applicable from a small to a medium or a medium to a large)

I myself have 2 homes (Cottages) and 5 Apt sized spaces, (wanting a 6th room) to me its not about the size of the space, but how do you make the most of it.

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That's cool that you did that, but it doesn't change the fact that apartments are small and have no outdoor space.
Some populated servers don't even have apartments available anymore since they're never demolished so they only open up if someone is forced to relinquish it to move servers or if they add new wards.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Besides what makes the housing system so bad? That plots are finite? And what else? (Not enough outdoor slots?)

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Yes, because it's finite. Almost anything else you want in this game you can get with time and effort. If you want a house, you gotta roll the dice against tons of other people or to move to a low population server.
Bosses don't stop dropping equipment because other people already have it. Societal quests don't stop giving out rewards because enough people have completed it. Why is housing limited like this? The only other place this applies is old PvP rewards, but that's another issue in itself.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

You have to bid in a now completely fair system that accounts for players with less spare time to play? (Wait, isnt that good?)

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Irrelevant. The method of obtaining a house doesn't matter if there's not enough available in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Isn't the housing mirage going to allow everyone to have a mansion regardless of what size plot they are housed on? (Thats good right?)

Arnt they looking to increase the item count for all housing sizes?

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Irrelevant to the problem. I'm happy that I'll be able to increase the interior size of my house and put in more furniture, but that doesn't make it any easier for others to obtain a house.

Honestly I can’t fathom why someone would think ‘no we must adhere to this exact system of limited housing distribution’. If devs find some way to ‘give everyone a house’ what possible reason could there be to reject it? ‘I want a game that creates social class division?’ ‘There should be a disparity between those who have and those who do not have’ lol

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Is there any detriment to not owning a plot, over an apartment?
(anything that wouldn't be applicable from a small to a medium or a medium to a large)

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You can't use outdoor decor with apartments.
You can't customize the interior style of apartments.
You can't use apartments as an FC base. (And thus cannot interact with any system applicable to that.)
The smallest house is still larger than an apartment.
As far as I am aware, the future 'housing mirage' feature will not be available for apartments.

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

You can't use outdoor decor with apartments.
You can't customize the interior style of apartments.
You can't use apartments as an FC base. (And thus cannot interact with any system applicable to that.)
The smallest house is still larger than an apartment.
As far as I am aware, the future 'housing mirage' feature will not be available for apartments.

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It would be nice if apartments had a terrance where players could have a shared planting space like at the top of the apt.

I have no doubt in my mind that it's going to be an eventuality.

Yea you can, I used my own apt as a fc hangout while I wanted for a plot to open. Also you're naming fc exclusive features in a private housing setting. Pvt plots couldn't be used as a base either.
Now, naming all of that.Is it detrimental to gameplay and not have these things?

When started my island I had hoped I could build a house and was slightly disappointed I couldn't so a house on it would be grand.

They should update Island Sanctuary to allow you to build a home and it would become the instanced housing some prefer while keeping the wards intact as I like the neighborhood feel of them along with others. It's already there and would just need to have the housing plot size of your choice added, so it shouldn't need much more work on paper needed to pull this off. This would go a long way to getting good will from those that are upset at the current system. They can even make you buy the size plot you wish to have to be even with the ward plots so it'll serve as a gil sink too.

They've yet to fix the leaky roof on my Cozy Cabin. It's not so cozy if you're always drenched in cold rain. :(

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Originally Posted by Solowing

There needs to be a friends who's limited instance housing. So that way whoever wants to decorate and invite their friends over can, However your house will not be able to be used as a venue. Or freely accessible like the ward houses.

If it's off the demolition timer then it needs trade off.

You want the visibility/venue but don't have a plot? buy a apt

You want housing but want to take breaks frequently? Apts/instanced plot

You want something bigger/visible/venue and are willing to stay subbed for extended periods? Try for a ward plot.

You don't care about the visibility/venue , but just want something to decorate? Instanced housing that's friends list limited

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Why shouldn't we be able to use an island house as a venue?
The island should be able to be run however we wish. We got the island as a reward for saving the universe and it was even encouraged that we use the island however we wish. Didn't that lalafel bring over a lot of people to give them a tour? We should have a house and make it a venue if we wish. I don't like venues- Not my style- but I don't see a problem with anyone wanting to do it themselves.

I have a small personal house, a medium FC house, and an apartment and I've decorated them all (I'm in the process of redecorating the cottage with the new minimalist design) and I would love to have a mansion on my island. Even better would be to have a mansion with zero item limit!

I would honestly love the option to build a house on my island. I don't have it maxed out yet, but the prospect of that kind of reward would make me very eager to get it there, and the island itself is such a gorgeous and diverse space that it would be trivial to set the house up in an area with incredible views, beach access, and all the space we could want.

You should do the work to max it out. There is definitely room for a large house on that island. It's worth the effort to complete the quests there and it's really nice when you get flying for the place.

I'd gladly give up my cottage and drop a million gil to have a large house on my island!

Well, having more options is always nice, wouldn't have one myself but it would be nice to see what people do with and Island home.

It could be done… they’d need to make a new area to put the housing plot, just so it’s not interfering with gathering spawns and such.

They could take the themes from the granary missions of the different island zones for you to choose what your island plot looks like: Meandering Meadows, Fatal Falls, Mossy Mountains, etc. This is what so many of us were hoping would be the final reward of the Island, but sadly it never came.

Unfortunately I think it’s highly unlikely we’ll see any updates to the Island at this point.

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Originally Posted by Espon

But why? People aren't suggesting instance housing because they don't want to be in a ward

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I have been for years now. I would much rather have my own little instance than be in a ward. But I have also had issues with neighbors over the years due to having a large house which some ppl, even some FCs, feel entitled to use for their own rp purposes, meaning I have to remove outside furniture and lock it down and let no one in anyway. GMs wouldn't even do anything about it, even when I caught them erping. So yeah, give me a instanced house to myself and my large can go to a venue for all I care.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I have been for years now. I would much rather have my own little instance than be in a ward.

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I rarely even see my neighbors but you bring up a good point. I think they updated the housing controls so you can blacklist people instead of locking down your house altogether, but depending on how big an FC you’re dealing with, that might not work for you!

My ward house is nice, but I’d give it up in an instant for an instanced plot that I could choose the background scenery of, and that by design would not need to be subject to auto-demo because it isn’t taking away a limited resource from anyone else. Just being able to have something like that and know it will always be there for me would be a comfort in this increasingly crazy world we’re living in!

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I have been for years now. I would much rather have my own little instance than be in a ward. But I have also had issues with neighbors over the years due to having a large house which some ppl, even some FCs, feel entitled to use for their own rp purposes, meaning I have to remove outside furniture and lock it down and let no one in anyway. GMs wouldn't even do anything about it, even when I caught them erping. So yeah, give me a instanced house to myself and my large can go to a venue for all I care.

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That's really bizarre and unfortunate you have to deal with those kind of things. I fortunately have good neighbors and they have their homes nicely decorated at both of my larges in Seraph and Exodus. I also don't mind people gposing at my homes and gardens because that's one major reason I love decorating them in the first place. My homes are unlocked and I love seeing people gposing in them and thankfully, no erp yet unlike my first cottage in my onsen in my yard xD. But I really do hope they add instance housing or at least offer you to be able to upgrade the size of your apartments. Venues would also like the Island Sanctuary because you can decorate the courtyards with a 90 slot limit. I also wouldn't be against the plots being more expensive if it means it's permanent without fear of auto demolishing. That would suck if they had auto demolition on instance housing to keep people subbed and I hope they don't.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I have been for years now. I would much rather have my own little instance than be in a ward. But I have also had issues with neighbors over the years due to having a large house which some ppl, even some FCs, feel entitled to use for their own rp purposes, meaning I have to remove outside furniture and lock it down and let no one in anyway. GMs wouldn't even do anything about it, even when I caught them erping. So yeah, give me a instanced house to myself and my large can go to a venue for all I care.

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You quoted half my sentence and ignored the rest, thus taking what I said completely out of context. I'm sorry that happened to you, but that has nothing to do with the OP suggesting island housing because it's nearly impossible to win a plot.