I didnt believe it possible, but you managed to make a really fun, yet appropriately challenging event, with decent rewards. I don't know what the future holds for dungeon and primal type content in terms of difficulty, but if you keep putting out great content like Skirmish, then casual/average players will love FFXIV. I know that they said that 2.0will include difficulty settings and better drops rates/systems, but I'll reserve judgement on that until after 2.0.
The point is that this content is fun and provides a decent challenge, that is probably the most fun I have had in this game as far as repeatable content (the GC and Job quests/instances are great too). Its also quick and very accessable. Its the kind of stress free, casual content, that Ive been looking for, that still provides that "Epic" feel.
This as opposed to the soul-sucking, spirit-crushing experience (due to difficulty or drops) that all the primals and dungeons offer. And I know that there are other casual content, but to me they all are either bad in concept or implementation. Hamlet Def? Horrible implementation, and kinda boring. Caravan Escort? Just very boring. GC and regular Leves? yawn.... etc, etc, etc = all boring. But Skirmish? How can I not love a Notorious Monster-a-thon?
The content was good enough that I finally got my brothers and a few friends to come back and we have been having a blast non-stop just about every night. This is something I havent been able to do before. I am the type that likes to do the harder EG challenges (even though Im still trying to beat Garuda :b), my 2 brothers and my friends cant stand the current EG content. I was worried about SE's plans to induct casual players into events "that mattered"/"felt epic". But if Skirmish is any indication, then it looks like they can pull it off. Another great thing about the content is that its filled with lesser versions of the real NMs that inexperienced players can use as a sort of training ground. Same with the end bosses too: can teach about CC and survival skills.
If I had anything bad to say about Skirmish, it would be that the final bosses are maybe a little overboard with hate reset. But its not horrible. The other thing would be that I think SE missed an oppertunity to either also have it give seals or to have it only give seals. Offering different options of content like this that reward seals and combo'd together with more gear options from GC vendor would be a great direction for casual content.
TL;DR
Skirmish is fricken awesome, more of this caliber of casual content please!! And please consider making the focus of such content on GC seals!
Congratulations on Skirmish SE!
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08-10-2012, 06:26 AMAmsaiCongratulations on Skirmish SE!
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08-10-2012, 06:46 AMOrophin
The Treant and Golem are rather annoying, but otherwise it was a pretty fun experience. Being that I have primal weapons for all my classes, I doubt it's something I'm going to revisit often, but for those needing to gear up, it gives good enough rewards and experience for the mobs' dungeon counterparts.
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08-10-2012, 09:01 AMMariyaShidou
They still need to put in a token system like Garuda so that everyone can be happy, especially in PUG.
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08-10-2012, 09:05 AMViritess
Sadly i still haven't done more then one skirmish run. If the soul crushing Seal drop rate in hamlet would leave me alone for a day or two i may be able to escape hamlet and do some skirmish for a while.
For the amount of times i've helped save the hamlet you'd think they could be less stingy ><;
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08-10-2012, 09:10 AMLurex
Its fun, but i still have to argue about the "fuss free" battle content.
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08-10-2012, 09:18 AMKaplanHomahruWow did you already forget your last thread or at this point do you just like trolling? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurex
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08-10-2012, 09:35 AMFelis8 people + 8 runs = everyone get one weaponQuote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
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08-10-2012, 09:49 AMDzianchance isnt it? pretty sure it's not guaranteed double drop i've cleared some in under 20 mins and only seen 1 drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
I do quite like it and it is refreshing that it has a decent drop rate for once. take your shell to av do 4 or 5 runs get jack is kinda annoying at least 4 or 5 skirmishes is going to see 4or5+ weapons. alot of them arefairly evenly priced so even if its not the one you want you can sell it and get the one you want -
08-10-2012, 10:06 AMMariyaShidouExcept that it's not what you want. I have done 7 runs and not seeing what I want (Sword) so ended up buying it from MW. The CNJ/WHM staff seem to drop most frequent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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08-10-2012, 10:13 AMLurex
Get off my back Kap. I made it perfectly clear what I thought "fuss free" battle content meant. Now after all the hype is over, you can stand in LL forever twiddling your thumbs for a party.
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08-10-2012, 10:18 AMDziancall me stupid. but most skirmish parties are full by the time they get to limsa so if you're looking for one ul'dah would be abetter place to look i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Lurex
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08-10-2012, 10:23 AMKaplanHomahruYep and everyone made it perfectly clear why your assumption was unfair, and yet you bring it up again.Quote:
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Whatevs, Skirmish is fun, I love boss rush in games. And guaranteed loot is nice and encouraging for players. Even if you get something you don't necessarily want you can trade/sell it. -
08-10-2012, 10:32 AMLurexMy assumption was not unfair, to me. But I agree, Kap. I said it was fun. What I question is the "fuss free" battle content. That is all. And as I said before, fuss free to me, means something like Campaign, talk to NPC, wait for battle, join, done.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru
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08-10-2012, 01:18 PMAsiaine
I'm glad people are finding this fun, and I do see regular shouts for it in Ul'dah, so I think its popularity is increasing. For those who want an easier way to party up for skirmish, they can try the Party menu (I regularly do see parties forming through the party menu, so it's easy enough to join and show up).
On the down side, I found it rather lacked challenge (point, click, nuke, next). But I believe that was the intent. It would be interesting if they made another set of Skirmishes that worked the same way but the battles were more challenging. -
08-10-2012, 02:00 PMAmherstI can't speak for Golem, but the tree is pretty easy once you have a party that has a basic strategy planned. As for the weapons themselves, I have to disagree. I see a ton of potential in them since they can be melded, so I wouldn't mind running them. Get a good double or decent triple and they'd start to be an improvement for some of the classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orophin
For basic weapons they actually are pretty good. It's nice that SE is finally making an effort to acknowledge that there are players in their game who haven't capped every class and are 21/21 on primal drops.
I really thought it was a lot of fun. It was well thought out, balanced for different types of players, and while it isn't fuss free (oh no I stated an opinion I must be a troll) it is still fairly easy to get into by comparison of some of the other things we currently have.
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08-10-2012, 02:04 PMTibianThis needs to be done with hamlet for seals.Quote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
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08-10-2012, 03:04 PMRuisuIf forming a party is that difficult for you, I suggest you go play a single player game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurex
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08-10-2012, 05:38 PMVenat
Skirmish isn't anything new.. same old bosses. Wish they added new stuff. They made AV & CC less of a dungeon. Would of been nice if they just made HNMs on the field.
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08-10-2012, 05:55 PMmekia
I quite like it because it gives "newer/returning" players a start to understand those bosses and old NM's. I enjoy it and would like to see more like this. Even if it's just to "educate" newer players to those bosses etc.
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08-10-2012, 08:50 PMTaikaExactly, it's a really good event for players who have just hit 50 on a job and want to learn how to play it in an end-gamish setting but without the stress. The difficulty is just right and one run doesn't take too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by mekia
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08-10-2012, 09:06 PMDzianIMO skirmish is the kind of system I believe your experience points party should be...Quote:
Originally Posted by Venat
Thats not to say I have a problem with skirmish but I just feel exp parties are very different to anything else.
After all, grinding the crap out of natalan or rapters etc doesn't do much to prepare you for the endgame style stuffs. The way you play your job to level in natalan is very different to the way you play your job at Chimera / Coin-Counter etc. Your brand new paladin who just dinged 50 in natalan and went straight to AV is going to have no clue about Coin-Counter for example.
Skirmish you could say is a mini training ground for things like Coin-Counter, Buffalo, Ogre etc. Take your party to skirmish and your brand new level 50 paladin who goes to AV is likely to have a much better idea what to expect from Coin-Counter.
This all kind of falls with what I said ages ago. The grind to 50 shouldn't just be an obstacle, It should be about learning your jobs/roles etc. You could argue that they dont take long to learn but given that 9/10 shouts for anything call for experienced people only it goes to highlight the problem I think.
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08-10-2012, 09:07 PMhrdndvYes. It is the best event in the game for getting high end weapons. It is fun to do. It is challenging. If they made it any more challenging it would be another high level Garuda that most players couldn't do. High-end players have Raven to fight. General players need Skirmish. As to all old bosses... SE, plz add another island with new bosses... >(o.o)<Quote:
Originally Posted by Asiaine
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08-11-2012, 01:22 AMyoshikwalla
I just started Skirmishing (failed 3 times so far lolz) but its nice to see something with a bit of challenge. Not as hard as Garuda or Darnus (not even CLOSE to darnus), but challenging all the same.
I'm busy working on getting heavy darklight and my GC weapon/acessories to complete my GC set so I won't be doing them as much, but it's a nice filler in case I get tired of doing Aurum Vales over and over and ooover... or if I can't find a caravan party.
There need to be enough content to make up for the 400 levels required to level up battle classes. This filler will definitely help. -
08-12-2012, 07:17 PMkazaran
I was away (even tho paid ahead 3 months) come back, get dragged into Skirmish (i'm liek skir what?) Went into the island one, just seemed kinda, well, no many enemies and runnign around a circular island real fast. Not exactly like runs in XI where you enter the dungeon, and get annilated by 100 skeletons i ntehe first 5 mins.
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08-12-2012, 10:41 PMFelisIt is a trainings ground, not a raid dungeon ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by kazaran
5 NM and slightly weakened raid bosses for you and your party to train your skills for the real fight in the dungeons.
Oh, and if you don't kill chimera on the 2nd island fast enough, the cyclope is coming attacking your party from behind ^^ -
08-12-2012, 11:28 PMLeo_Hart
Congratulation on Skzergmish SE!