SE, Please just instance fight encounters

And keep the world OPEN, even dungeons, KEEP THEM OPEN!! , PLEASE just instance battle encounters just like every other final fantasy in existence, PLEASE!

No thank you :D

I'm not sure how that would work. That's a ton of instances to handle, although it would definitely be unique AFAIK for an MMO.

If I'm understanding you correctly, then in fact not all final fantasy games have had instanced battles, i.e. where the area shifts when you encounter an enemy, whether battles are random or not. FFXII had all enemies out in the world, and you fought them there.

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If I'm understanding you correctly, then in fact not all final fantasy games have had instanced battles, i.e. where the area shifts when you encounter an enemy, whether battles are random or not. FFXII had all enemies out in the world, and you fought them there.

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I also know I'm not the only person who would love to play an MMO version of FFXII. You are correct though, FFXII was the only final fantasy with non-instanced fights.

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I'm not sure how that would work. That's a ton of instances to handle, although it would definitely be unique AFAIK for an MMO.

If I'm understanding you correctly, then in fact not all final fantasy games have had instanced battles, i.e. where the area shifts when you encounter an enemy, whether battles are random or not. FFXII had all enemies out in the world, and you fought them there.

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9 was the only one, the idea is that it would be pretty much like what we have now for dungeons and primals etc. but the instance would shut down right down the fight, only problems i would see with this would be the servers only being in japan and the problem that spouted up earlier with instances being created with no one in them


I have to add, they are already going to implement it for the roaming primals in 2.0, i would just like them to extend the reach to other things and remove the gates on dungeons that used to be instanced

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Originally Posted by ShivenCasull

I also know I'm not the only person who would love to play an MMO version of FFXII. You are correct though, FFXII was the only final fantasy with non-instanced fights.

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FFXII was built on XI's foundation as they felt they could have always done more with it so it was the "true vision" of what they had for XI, so the online FFXII = FFXI, just not set in Ivalice. The Guildleve system in XIV is already basically pseudo instanced as it's open world and the monsters that are yours/your part will only be interacted by such.

farming Sheepskins with an instanced fight for every sheep?

hellz no... i dont wanna die of old age before i can make 1 stack of sheep leather yo.
(that was just an example btw...doh)

While we're at it let's bring back full menus.

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> This is a bad idea why did we even do this?

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And keep the world OPEN, even dungeons, KEEP THEM OPEN!! , PLEASE just instance battle encounters just like every other final fantasy in existence, PLEASE!

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nice way to kill the game, really want to wait to enter an instances then exit it? that would make every fight take forever, loading....., fight for a few seconds, loading.......

guild leves & gathering are already instanced

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Originally Posted by faris

While we're at it let's bring back full menus!!111

Fight
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> This is a bad idea why did we even do this?

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Originally Posted by indira

nice way to kill the game, really want to wait to enter an instances then exit it? that would make every fight take forever, loading....., fight for a few seconds, loading.......

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FFXIII

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

FFXIII

Thanks

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Would you like to defeat anything by spamming X as well, then?

Thanks

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Would you like to defeat anything by spamming X as well, then?

Thanks

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Already happens in game


Off-topic: ur sig is going to give me nightmares...

This thread Has lots of fun discussions on the topic.

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Off-topic: ur sig is going to give me nightmares...

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my work here is done.

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And keep the world OPEN, even dungeons, KEEP THEM OPEN!! , PLEASE just instance battle encounters just like every other final fantasy in existence, PLEASE!

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XI & XII didn't have instanced battles exclusively.

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

9 was the only one, the idea is that it would be pretty much like what we have now for dungeons and primals etc. but the instance would shut down right down the fight, only problems i would see with this would be the servers only being in japan and the problem that spouted up earlier with instances being created with no one in them


I have to add, they are already going to implement it for the roaming primals in 2.0, i would just like them to extend the reach to other things and remove the gates on dungeons that used to be instanced

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I'm lost with your 9 comment it had random battles all 1-10-2 where all random encounters/instances 11-12 open world content 13 and 13-2 kinda open content with which you had to strike first to go into an instance....

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my work here is done.

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She's cute.

We already dc a lot when we enter battle instances...this will dc everyone on the server every other second!

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Originally Posted by Mijin

She's cute.

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Agreed. Dandy Maro is adorbs and most importantly, My Dragon are way more interesting than Kiryu are. For an alter-ego band they're pretty hilarious. He's a dude though, brah.

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FFXIII

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How would that get rid of the obvious issues Indira brought up?
(Troll thread is troll thread).

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Agreed. Dandy Maro is adorbs and most importantly, My Dragon are way more interesting than Kiryu are. For an alter-ego band they're pretty hilarious. He's a dude though, brah.

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Lol, I don't know why... but I'm about to google this weird sh!t.

Update: So this is a Japanese boyband... Interesting.

Instancing everything would slow everything to a crawl because there's no way they could do it without loading..

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Update: So this is a Japanese boyband... Interesting.

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here. My Dragon are an alter-ego band formed from Kiryu's members, and a response to Kiryu getting told they treat themselves too seriously. Kiryu are pretty much death, doom, darkness, etcetcetc. Alter-ego bands are awesome. Sendai Kamotsu are an alter-ego of Nightmare, and I belieeeeeve (I'm not American) Chiba from Sendai Kamotsu was guest at some animu convention in america recently.

Lol, nooooo... No no no no no.... No.

I think maybe Ptolemy's comment stems from a fear that FF14 will be too heavily instanced. Which is a valid fear. We will have to see how things work out.

It is unfortunate that in 2013 we can't have devs create a well optimized engine and servers capable of supporting an open world where content is mostly available for others to see and admire or take part in. Even if there is a plethora of pop-item mobs to keep the epeeners from hogging all the NM/HNM/HHHNM/VEUFHNM mobs.

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Instancing everything would slow everything to a crawl because there's no way they could do it without loading..

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As far as I understand it, instancing is less intensive than having open world content? Am I wrong?

Also what is the Japanese band where the members all look like FF7 characters and the lead singer looks like Cloud? Ill look it up on youtube but doubt ill find it.