Let's put the DT hate aside for a moment. I’m opening this topic to discuss some ideas that came to mind about how to improve the game with quality-of-life (QOL) updates. I know I’m not the only one who’s suggested things like this, but hey, I want to spark a discussion maybe I’m wrong on some of these takes.
The game does roll out QOL updates from time to time, but here’s a list of what I personally think would be great additions. Feel free to jump into the discussion and call me out if I’m off the mark. Here are my thoughts:
- Increase the price of class skips in the Mog Station by $1 and remove story skips entirely. Instead, allow players to skip the story only if the account has already completed it.
- Run larger, long-duration events, maybe with special maps. Reward players with glamour items and mounts instead of simple skip quests.
- Reduce the number of shop-exclusive items and add more in-game rewards for activities.
- Introduce secrets in the overworld to encourage exploration.
- Add rewards for all classes when running duties, similar to the tank mount reward. These could be class-specific gear, titles, or signature weapons for glamour (not necessarily mounts).
- Introduce a Duty Roulette level setting to avoid getting low-level dungeons like Sastasha when leveling at higher levels (e.g., level 96).
- Allow lower-level dungeons to scale up to your current level during the leveling process and create a roulette for it. You could also feature one expansion per week with increased EXP rates.
- Remove Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda from the leveling roulette.
- Finally add hats for Viera and Hrothgar.
- Create a "Collector’s Log" for special items, such as collecting all gear from Dungeon X. A potential reward could be unlocking that dungeon’s gear for all classes, either via company vendors or a new vendor with its own currency.
- Add more unlockable character customizations (new faces, horns, ears, tattoos, etc.).
- Include longer hairstyles.
- Unlockable crafting recipes from side quests (not just blue quests), possibly for glamour items.
- Offer different dungeon difficulties and reward players with extras, like a chance for Materia drops from monsters.
- Provide more Party Finder settings, like setting clear minimum or adding a "veteran" status after 10 kills, with a checkbox to set as requirement.
- Run events or special tasks (like the PvP-like pass) that allow players to earn very old shop items in-game, like years-old glamour or emotes.
- Reward players who tackle high-end content early.
- Create a special glamour set for the Mentor Roulette that looks like a "master" or similar.
QOL in my opinion
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10-12-2024, 08:17 AMDante131QOL in my opinion
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10-12-2024, 10:40 AMAlice_Rivers
Why would people pay more for the level skip if the story skip is removed? Removing the story skip isn't necessarily a bad idea, though really story skip should come with mandatory tutorial dungeon or something because there are way too many people who don't know their role, much less their job and sometimes even the basic game mechanics.
Also Limited Leveling Roulette is an option that exists (even if it isn't exactly highlighted), you just need to put together a PF for it if you don't have three friends to rope in. I did think once "Why are Ifrit and co in leveling roulette instead of trials" but then I considered that they don't fit the trials format being four man content, it kinda makes sense for them to be leveling duties. -
10-12-2024, 11:02 AMKes13a
some of this seems more like personal wants as opposed to QoL things.
adding "secrets"? you mean like the aether currents for flying that people complain about? or the viewpoints that few do? "secrets" is rather vague and chances are... only have a small number of people who care about them
but I vehemently disagree with your last. the mentor system is already a trainwreck and doesnt need something else to get people to be a mentor who have no business being one. people already become one just for the mount... and no need to add "special glam" -
10-12-2024, 01:55 PMCVXIV
I think it'd be nice to see more customization options in the character creator
Having replayed FFX it made me a bit disappointed in what we got for the Hrothgar, given that the horn isn't a big part of their culture and having it available to all faces with a broken variant to resemble Kimahri's
Or having pointed ears as a Hyur similar to what Hilda has
I believe the Au Ra in Thavnair also have unique scale colors, being a bit more beige than the white you can see on Raens
More in-depth events would be fun as well, as I am reminded of the events in GW2 where you have special things you can do for the duration of the event with its own events
We could get something similar with fates but in the city state the event is held in
It's happened before with the fetes to celebration the completion of the Empyreum
Though I can see it being a bit harder to implement since the three major cities are rather small in comparison
Some QoL I can think of would be similar to the vistas in GW2, and have them be visible on the map but I can see the argument of it ruining the point of it being like a puzzle you have to solve. It's something I wouldn't really mind being changed but I can see some people being upset by it
I remember it being talked about awhile back that there used to be a system that allowed you to do tasks for a town to help build its defenses from attack and that's something I think would be really cool to have back in the game
One thing I really enjoy is when games show that our actions have an impact on the world around us, and that we are making it a better place. A lot of the yellow quests do something like it, with one coming to mind being the questline in the ruby sea's fishing village
They could also use the hoofing it debuff a lot more to force the player to walk rather than mount, and it can be used for things like jumping puzzles or other things. I recall strongholds being mentioned the last time it came up -
10-12-2024, 02:08 PMJeeqbit
99% of this is not QoL. A lot of it is a lack of understanding of the function of those features, opinion, or a game feature suggestion.
Yoshi-P made some posts on this before skips were a thing and said most people in China and other countries who get skips have indeed beat the MSQ already so they thought it wouldn't be much issue.Quote:
allow players to skip the story only if the account has already completed it.
However, it's pretty evident that some people just can't handle stories and having skips has allowed those players to do the content that they actually want to so it wouldn't be worthwhile at this point. The fee should remain to send a message that the developers don't want you to skip and that the default experience doesn't involve skips.
I dread the seasonal events if that's what you mean. If they made unique maps of the quality of some of their past dungeons for Valentione's Day and All Saint's Wake, that would be alright, but they often just repeat old ones.Quote:
Run larger, long-duration events, maybe with special maps.
Not realistic. Once it's available in the shop, they can't go back. Even if they stop selling it, they can't make it available in the game again without refunding everyone that ever bought it. It wouldn't be fair on them.Quote:
Reduce the number of shop-exclusive items and add more in-game rewards for activities.
Games used to do this but you know how it is now... "secrets" in games have to have a giant sign above them. I wouldn't be opposed to it but do I see SE doing this? No.Quote:
Introduce secrets in the overworld to encourage exploration.
Misses the point of tank mounts. The mounts exist to get you to play a tank because of the typical tank shortage in MMORPGs. They could use one for healers at this point in the game as well, but DPS don't need one.Quote:
Add rewards for all classes when running duties, similar to the tank mount reward.
Misses the point of roulettes. You do a roulette to help people clear dungeons they are in direct queue for. In exchange, you get exp. Wanting a high-level dungeon is self-centered and ignores that roulettes are for helping others. That said, an option exists for this if the party is fully pre-made.Quote:
Introduce a Duty Roulette level setting to avoid getting low-level dungeons like Sastasha when leveling at higher levels (e.g., level 96).
Again, you do not understand the purpose of roulettes...Quote:
Allow lower-level dungeons to scale up to your current level during the leveling process and create a roulette for it.
Obviously they should, but do you seriously think they aren't working on it after all the backlash? Obviously they are working on it, they are just slow for some reason.Quote:
Finally add hats for Viera and Hrothgar.
Achievements, mount list, minion list... collectors logs exist. So you are probably just wanting the transmog system from WoW like everyone else brings up ever since the game went viral on twitch.Quote:
Create a "Collector’s Log" for special items, such as collecting all gear from Dungeon X.
I would agree with this but when confronted with the suggestion, they made a separate type of dungeon altogether: Variant and Criterion.Quote:
Offer different dungeon difficulties and reward players with extras, like a chance for Materia drops from monsters.
First one exists already, second one would make parties difficult to fill at all. They should just record what HP% the first party member died, then record that as your furthest progression, then only let you join parties that set at that % or earlier.Quote:
Provide more Party Finder settings, like setting clear minimum or adding a "veteran" status after 10 kills, with a checkbox to set as requirement.
They do... it's called the mogtome events. One is about to run right now...Quote:
Run events or special tasks (like the PvP-like pass) that allow players to earn very old shop items in-game, like years-old glamour or emotes.
Opinion, not QoL. This would be bad in my opinion.Quote:
Reward players who tackle high-end content early.
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10-12-2024, 08:14 PMDante131for compensate the "loss" of 20 $ i wanted to work out a financial solution aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers
ofc i know that a lvl limit in a full grp exists but why cant i do it on my own ? -
10-12-2024, 08:17 PMDante131
i see your point and yes ofc many of the points are personal "wants" but in my opinion it still could improve fun for others aswell thats why i want to discuss this here :)
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10-12-2024, 08:44 PMHallarem
Sorry OP. You are the victim of suggesting something and the people immediately dev defending by going.
"Excuuuuse meeee but this is not realistic, just your opinion broooo"
Keep fighting the good fight. They'll wake up when an MMO with an actual budget thats not juggling 5000 side projects comes in.
5 years no hats
Chat bubbles "naaah bruuh, not even with a toggle"
The fact that these people are against exploration secrets and things you can find in the world tells me everything I need to know. Stop being boring
I think secrets you can find in the world would spruce up the world. Like finding lore related relics, that lead a bread crumb trail to drop items from hunts or rare mobs. Or normal mobs. Maybe you find clues from mining and botany too or area related dungeons. Could even make it a part of an end glam reward, mount reward or relic weapon quest. Low drop % could become a community wide treasure hunt / theorycraft. -
10-12-2024, 11:02 PMCVXIVWhatever happened with that? I had heard awhile ago that they were going to implement them but there's been no comment about it since unless I had missed somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Hallarem
Exploration in games is something I really enjoy, so I would like it if they were to spruce things up and add more features to it. I had mentioned GW2 in my previous post, but I also like how they handled exploration for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallarem
I think FFXIV could really benefit from using a similar system to GW2's map completion, giving rewards to players based on completing all of a zone's vistas, or attuning to all the aetherytes (similar to GW2's waypoints), doing all of the quests, etc.
It could reward items and achievement points, with titles being given out for certain accomplishments
and experience, of course
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10-12-2024, 11:50 PMJeeqbitThey have made some prototypes for it but are still working it out. I'm sure when it's ready we'll see more about it. My guess is 7.1 or 7.2. If it takes longer I'll be surprised at why chat bubbles are so overly complicated.Quote:
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10-12-2024, 11:59 PMCVXIVThank you! I was genuinely curious and I hadn't seen this screenshot beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
It's interesting that the colors seem to correspond to what chat it is because from there it looks like say, party, and linkshell
Hopefully it doesn't take too much longer and it's kind of surprising that it's taken as long as it has. When it was announced I had assumed it'd release with Dawntrail -
10-13-2024, 05:19 AMDante131i mean they are not wrong many of the points are personal stuff I liked to have and maybe some others do thats why i bring it up and try it with sharing. It might not be QOL then i dont know in my opinion it would count to it thats why i opened this topic. I am in for a dialoge of whats possible and whats not or even why its not. Like the thing with the story skips. Many argue like they want the money fine here you are split the cost on the other skips problem solved. If people just jump in and think this is not realistic and just my opinion its fine but i actually wanna now why its not realistic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hallarem
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10-13-2024, 06:11 AMKaurhz
- Increase the price of class skips in the Mog Station by $1 and remove story skips entirely. Instead, allow players to skip the story only if the account has already completed it. - No, because this game still has an absurd cumulative story before you can even start doing relevant and populated content. If they had better support with crunching it, or introduced more early-level content, then maybe.
- Run larger, long-duration events, maybe with special maps. Reward players with glamour items and mounts instead of simple skip quests. Sure.
- Reduce the number of shop-exclusive items and add more in-game rewards for activities. Agreed,
- Introduce secrets in the overworld to encourage exploration. Yes.
- Add rewards for all classes when running duties, similar to the tank mount reward. These could be class-specific gear, titles, or signature weapons for glamour (not necessarily mounts). I don't know. Generally those rewards are there to act as incentive for those roles.
- Introduce a Duty Roulette level setting to avoid getting low-level dungeons like Sastasha when leveling at higher levels (e.g., level 96).
- Allow lower-level dungeons to scale up to your current level during the leveling process and create a roulette for it. You could also feature one expansion per week with increased EXP rates. I would much rather they scale this into high-end duties, e.g., expanding unreal to include older savages, and need to appear with greater frequency
- Remove Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda from the leveling roulette. and put them where?
- Finally add hats for Viera and Hrothgar. Needless to say.
- Create a "Collector’s Log" for special items, such as collecting all gear from Dungeon X. A potential reward could be unlocking that dungeon’s gear for all classes, either via company vendors or a new vendor with its own currency. I wish!!
- Add more unlockable character customizations (new faces, horns, ears, tattoos, etc.). This would be amazing.
- Include longer hairstyles. Yes please.
- Unlockable crafting recipes from side quests (not just blue quests), possibly for glamour items. I think maybe through completing certain recipes, e.g., how master books used to function in ARR, and early on in HW if memory serves correct.
- Offer different dungeon difficulties and reward players with extras, like a chance for Materia drops from monsters. Honestly, materia is plentiful, but I do agree with the premise. But materia as a reward is underwhelming.
- Provide more Party Finder settings, like setting clear minimum or adding a "veteran" status after 10 kills, with a checkbox to set as requirement. Hmmm..?
- Run events or special tasks (like the PvP-like pass) that allow players to earn very old shop items in-game, like years-old glamour or emotes. Okay. This is good
- Reward players who tackle high-end content early. I disagree, I think people should be rewarded for completing duties in creative ways, or by doing certain challenges during the duty.
- Create a special glamour set for the Mentor Roulette that looks like a "master" or similar. Mentor roulette needs removing.
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10-13-2024, 07:00 AMDante131
thanks for the feedback in here :) i kinda dont understand why people have such a hate against mentors tbh. had never issues with them but fair i guess. to explain some of my points:
- the story skip is not meant for your first character more like the second one if you truly want one. Thats why i wrote if you already done it. But i guess i am a bit of alone in this department with playing alts for fun.
- Add rewards for all classes when running duties, similar to the tank mount reward. These could be class-specific gear, titles, or signature weapons for glamour (not necessarily mounts). was meant to say lets encourage players play other roles even just for a little reward. Like encourage play a DPS as heal main or the DPS turns into a healer for a while.
- Remove Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda from the leveling roulette. i know its part of the leveling story but i dunno its frustrating getting these in lvl roulette and get like 0 exp for them. I dont know where to put them else maybe 1 extra thing but not really that important.
- Provide more Party Finder settings, like setting clear minimum or adding a "veteran" status after 10 kills, with a checkbox to set as requirement. let me explain. I encountered a lot of grps in pf wishing for a join requirement for some dutys like ex trails after for example 10 kills, so people who just cleared it one time will not join a farm grp ( just like the requirement of duty complete ) where the others maybe killed it 10 times or higher and dont want to wipe on mechanics because someone is maybe not so confidant with some mechs. I know its kinda rude for people who just cleared it but after doing stuff like that since ShB many people had spoken out for something like this. I think this is really anot so easy part i agree.
- Reward players who tackle high-end content early. I disagree, I think people should be rewarded for completing duties in creative ways, or by doing certain challenges during the duty. good point. I was going into the direction of reward people doing the content on release because for now theres no real reason for as maybe just gear. But you are smarter to go in into every fight later for just killing it with better drop rates for mounts or no time gate for gear. Still i think some challenges in this dutys for "special" rewards would be cool aswell. -
10-13-2024, 07:07 AMKurokaNo it doesnt miss it. Rouletts miss the point if 4 lv 80-90+ players get into Longstop for the 32142343th time. Just like the "join party in progress" toggle there should be one for "favor high level duties" just so, if not needed you dont get the 44457374357th run of toto rak with all level 60+....Quote:
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10-13-2024, 09:51 AMAlice_Rivers
I didn't see the ask for more long hair styles, I would be 100% for that IF they did something about the infernal clipping.
Afraid not, roulettes are by definition gambling, sometimes you win, often you lose. Don't wanna lose? Don't gamble. Wanna have limited leveling roulette? Put up a PF for it, simple as that. I don't queue MSQ roulette because the only duty in the set that I remotely like is Ultima Weapon, but when I get an MSQ roulette duty from my Mentor Roulette I take it as a loss and finish the duty. It sucks but that's gambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroka
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10-13-2024, 11:13 AMTalianore
I'd like it if we could add hairstyles to glamour plates. Some glams I run will clip horribly with a longer hairstyle, so I use a short one, but others would look fantastic with a longer cut. I'd pay a few million gil to unlock that feature.
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10-15-2024, 03:41 PMCuteBucket
Changes I feel are realistic and I have no idea why they aren't already in the game:
- Glamour plates equal to the amount of combat jobs + five extra
- Chat bubbles
- Wearing heels changes your character's height accordingly
- Two dye channels on all gear it makes sense for
- Housing decoration mode that lets items be placed anywhere in space (aka no slow and tedious glitching required to float objects and make interesting objects by combining other objects)
- Minions can be given unique names that other players can see (can turn on and off)
- Better mount roulette options -- make different categories of favorite mounts, automatically turn off "generic" mount music and only play unique music, things like that.
- Hats don't hide unique ears and gear doesn't hide tails (or a hide/unhide toggle for such)
- ALL cutscenes are voice acted (I don't understand how in 2024 we're still missing this)
Changes that are probably less realistic but I can dream:
- Better glamour system entirely -- unlock a glamour item once and then have access to it at any time.
- Better hair and fabric physics -- GW2 is just as old as this game with outdated graphics and yet the fabric and hair move so much better in that game.
- 6 base faces for every race, with at least one being an older looking face (female characters are currently not allowed to look even remotely middle aged or older, while some male characters can, like Elezen, Hyur, Miqo'te, and Au Ra, but more races should have the option)
- Different body types within the same race via more sliders. The race I pick should not lock me into to playing one single body type with no variation. I can understand height being race and gender limited to an extent, but there should be way, WAY more sliders. Stuff like thin/fat, flat/busty (the current boob slider is a joke on many races and is the difference of a single cup size--it should go from completely flat to G cup on everyone) broad/narrow shouldered, scrawny/'roid monster. If these are just numbers for body parts scaling stored in a spreadsheet (which it should be as most bodies are just Hyur bodies scaled differently with the heads swapped out to begin with), then the game should not have a problem loading the clothed body it swaps out for each gear piece around it. If the sliders are kept within reason, this shouldn't create any horrific monsters to blight the game, but would add a lot of variety to the world.
Probably more, that's just all I can think of right now.