Travel Restrictions

Hi, please remove the data center travel restrictions, I don't know why it wasn't done with this past maintenance but there's no reason to keep it in place any longer. Thanks

Are any servers still experiencing an hours long queue? I know Gilgamesh was a wreck that first week.

My friends and I have just been gathering up on Dynamis.

I have a character on Aether, and I log in there without issue at any hour. It's been that way since before the patch

It doesn't even feel like anyone is transferring to Dynamis, queues are the same on Seraph every hour of the day.

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed to see that the restrictions weren't unlocked on .01. Can't imagine where they thought congestion was still too much of an issue to keep the restrictions up for.

All we can do now is pray that they will lift travel restrictions in 7.05, which should theoretically be out on the 30th?

This was pretty predictable. Releasing the raids meant even a slight uptick in players, to their minds, still worth keeping congestion mitigation in place. And also the simple fact of still wanting to boost Dynamis population/engagement...

I will be moving my main away from Dynamis since apparently their plan is to force people to make characters on Dynamis with the "good" excuse of congestion (and it could happen again, who knows?), there are 0 queues that are abnormal on any world at this point, they are trying to force people to go on Dynamis, as if when the restrictions are lifted people wont transfer away to other DC's or at the very least go on Aether via DC travel for raiding and Crystal for RP

It's absolutely ridiculous and will make people on Dynamis consider moving to avoid getting stuck on the DC. At least it was the last straw for me to move away.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

This was pretty predictable. Releasing the raids meant even a slight uptick in players, to their minds, still worth keeping congestion mitigation in place. And also the simple fact of still wanting to boost Dynamis population/engagement...

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The second the restrictions will be gone, people will DC travel again as per pre DT, and people will transfer away since they were forced to create characters on Dynamis and will finally have the option to go fully populated DC's

This does nothing but delay the inevitable.

JP only has 1 DC locked down out of 4, which is Mana, the most populated one, it makes no sense to lock all of NA DC's aside from Dynamis, it made sense week 1, but not at this point, they are just pushing it and no one is complaining about it (until this thread).

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

It doesn't even feel like anyone is transferring to Dynamis, queues are the same on Seraph every hour of the day.

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I mean, I am on Maddy mostly, and our DC went from 8 to 16 parties match pre expansion to 78 to 90 parties match.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

I mean, I am on Maddy mostly, and our DC went from 8 to 16 parties match pre expansion to 78 to 90 parties match.

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Have you seen the amount of travelers?

Thats where that comes from. Because people are forced to meet on Dynamis if they want to play with their friends.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

JP only has 1 DC locked down out of 4, which is Mana, the most populated one, it makes no sense to lock all of NA DC's aside from Dynamis, it made sense week 1, but not at this point, they are just pushing it and no one is complaining about it (until this thread).

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How does it make no sense when you yourself point out you won't ever touch the data center again? Their entire purpose was spreading and equalizing player distribution, and they've got an entire new data center to populate. There are constant cries of the data center being dead. And, let's not forget, the game is newly available to Xbox players. It makes perfect sense to forcibly encourage the data center to populate sufficiently that cries of it being dead diminish.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

How does it make no sense when you yourself point out you won't ever touch the data center again? Their entire purpose was spreading and equalizing player distribution, and they've got an entire new data center to populate. There are constant cries of the data center being dead. And, let's not forget, the game is newly available to Xbox players. It makes perfect sense to forcibly encourage the data center to populate sufficiently that cries of it being dead diminish.

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Except that's not what it's doing, what it's doing is forcing people to be on there, knowing for a fact that once it opens again (which is at the latest 7.0.5 according to them) people will leave in droves, be it via DC travel or full world transfer, to more populated DC's.

It would make sense if people stayed, but a lot wont. They opened DC travel, they doomed Dynamis to fail at the same time as they did that, Aether is and will stay the raiding DC, and Crystal is and will stay the RP DC, and a massive amount of people will either transfer or DC travel to those, just like pre DT. If you seriously think that all of those people, including the travelers (that are a massive part of the current population on dynamis) are going to keep going there when DC travel opens back up, I dont know what to tell you. That's the same thing as people that expected people to keep going to Oceanic when they opened DC travel from NA to OCE, it lasted a few days and then died down, and now barely anyone even goes there anymore. The same will happen to Dynamis after the restrictions are lifted.

Not only that, but it's also heavily unfair by design that Dynamis players are stuck to their own DC while other DC's have 2 dc's to play in, it aint a good feeling.

Also adding one last thing, I have been on Dynamis for about 9 months or so at this point, maybe 10, and was very happy there, but once you start to restrict where I can DC travel to, with the excuse of congestion when there is absolutely none, that's where I personally draw the line, if they are going to keep DC travel restricted, at least be honest about it and say that it's to populate Dynamis and dont use a congestion that doesnt exist as an excuse.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

I mean, I am on Maddy mostly, and our DC went from 8 to 16 parties match pre expansion to 78 to 90 parties match.

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I was just about to add a similar comment. PF on Dynamis has been much more active than normal by several magnitudes, especially for end game content.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I was just about to add a similar comment. PF on Dynamis has been much more active than normal by several magnitudes, especially for end game content.

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Now put DC travel in the equation and world transfer.

The congestion excuse is already long gone, since after the first week pretty much.

SE is responsible for putting in DC travel in the first place, yes it's all great that Dynamis is alive right now thanks to all the travelers and people being stuck there, but it aint reality, nor is it how it's going to be in the future once DC travel opens back up, holding back on reopening DC travel fully because of something like this is absolutely silly, you are literally delaying the inevitable, it will happen be it today or in 2 weeks when it opens back up and people will leave, be it via DC travel or via transfer. Some will stay on Dynamis obviously, but a lot will go back to how it was pre DT, log in on dynamis for housing etc, and then hop over to other dcs for other things, and for older NA DC's, the meetup will be Aether for raiding and Crystal for RP, same as it has been for a while now.

Saying that it has been better as if its some massive improvement also makes no sense, because it's at the cost of people's freedom to DC travel and to see their friends and play with their friends, sure technically its an improvement, but its a very temporary one.

I welcome it and hope they keep it as long as possible. A Chaos-free Light DC is a good DC

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

It would make sense if people stayed, but a lot wont. They opened DC travel, they doomed Dynamis to fail at the same time as they did that, Aether is and will stay the raiding DC, and Crystal is and will stay the RP DC, and a massive amount of people will either transfer or DC travel to those, just like pre DT.

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This is part of the problem though, the idea that spawned along with DC travel that certain DCs were the only places to go for certain things. One thing I was hoping that would come out of this travel lock was people realizing they didn’t need to leave their DCs to do content. It’s been great having a full PF on Crystal! But even before the travel lock, I was still able to get most things done without traveling. And when I did travel, most of my parties were filled with people from Crystal anyway!

Every DC has all kinds of players, these DC “identities” are just silly in my opinion. Now if you wanted to make the case about the “vibe,” for lack of a better word, of the various DCs, ok. But saying you can’t raid anywhere other than Aether is ridiculous. I think people just check the local PF, don’t see what they’re looking for, and resign themselves to traveling. Which I get, not everyone wants to run a PF listing. But if you do, it usually fills!

And the same could be true for most of Dynamis… if those people who assume they “have” to travel just stayed on their own worlds, queues and PF would be better. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy at some point.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

Are any servers still experiencing an hours long queue? I know Gilgamesh was a wreck that first week.

My friends and I have just been gathering up on Dynamis.

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I'm on Greg. The largest queue I think I've seen recently when logging in during evening "prime time" was ~150, and that only happened...once I think. Queue is usually either non-existent (the typical buffering of 30 or so) or hovers ~60.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Every DC has all kinds of players, these DC “identities” are just silly in my opinion. Now if you wanted to make the case about the “vibe,” for lack of a better word, of the various DCs, ok. But saying you can’t raid anywhere other than Aether is ridiculous. I think people just check the local PF, don’t see what they’re looking for, and resign themselves to traveling. Which I get, not everyone wants to run a PF listing. But if you do, it usually fills!

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I kinda disagree in this regard. as a crystal raider I always try to do as much as possible in crystal, and I did get all my EXs and P9S and P10S clears in crystal! but even trought I had no issue with farming EXs and even doing old content MINE like A8S on crystal, any ultimate or current savage was not going to happen. If I wanted to get my weekly reclears in a timely matter or fill a TOP party at all I was forced to go to aether which really sucked.

One part of me kinda likes this setup to some extent, not being forced to DC travel to raid is just amazing, I wonder if allowing people to freely travel but taking away rewards from roulettes and savages if you aren't in your original DC/dynamis would be a good idea.

For me, since early access, I've been forced back to a DC I was forced to make my character on since NA was all locked down. All my friends are on Aether. I've had nobody to talk to since my sprout fell off the instant I grabbed the first DT quest. I have been stuck in a place with a bunch of strangers without any socializing at all aside from the hello, gg bye of some df randos. Nobody to play with, no socializing, then you get the bad runs with the toxic casuals who cause wipes then tell you to stfu when you teach them things. I am tired of teaching people, toxic or not, I've done it for ten years, I need to be around my group of friends, who know how to play the game, we are on the same page etc... otherwise the game is extremely unenjoyable. Imagine being lonely in the biggest mmo on the freakin planet. smh

also , on the topic of this dc is this and that dc is that... its really not. Aether isnt for doing all content, aether is where the ultimate raiders tend to gravitate to. that makes sense, since ultimates have a smaller number of people doing them... savage/extreme can be done on any data center, no need to travel. RP runs wild on aether and primal, not just on crystal. dont travel for content unless youre going to meet with friends. if youre going solo for a pf raid , just stay home.

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Originally Posted by 1313

For me, since early access, I've been forced back to a DC I was forced to make my character on since NA was all locked down. All my friends are on Aether. I've had nobody to talk to since my sprout fell off the instant I grabbed the first DT quest. I have been stuck in a place with a bunch of strangers without any socializing at all aside from the hello, gg bye of some df randos. Nobody to play with, no socializing, then you get the bad runs with the toxic casuals who cause wipes then tell you to stfu when you teach them things. I am tired of teaching people, toxic or not, I've done it for ten years, I need to be around my group of friends, who know how to play the game, we are on the same page etc... otherwise the game is extremely unenjoyable. Imagine being lonely in the biggest mmo on the freakin planet. smh

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And none of them DC traveled to dynamis to do stuff with you? Some friends.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

And none of them DC traveled to dynamis to do stuff with you? Some friends.

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maybe you can yell at them for me, they're from jenova lmao

The restrictions will lift with the savage patch.

What is this thread even complaining about?

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

The restrictions will lift with the savage patch.

What is this thread even complaining about?

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Well surprisingly casual social gamers and RPers want to be social with their friends, and they don't like what comes off as an unnecessary delay.

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Originally Posted by 1313

For me, since early access, I've been forced back to a DC I was forced to make my character on since NA was all locked down. All my friends are on Aether. I've had nobody to talk to since my sprout fell off the instant I grabbed the first DT quest. I have been stuck in a place with a bunch of strangers without any socializing at all aside from the hello, gg bye of some df randos. Nobody to play with, no socializing, then you get the bad runs with the toxic casuals who cause wipes then tell you to stfu when you teach them things. I am tired of teaching people, toxic or not, I've done it for ten years, I need to be around my group of friends, who know how to play the game, we are on the same page etc... otherwise the game is extremely unenjoyable. Imagine being lonely in the biggest mmo on the freakin planet. smh

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Why aren't your friends coming to Dynamis to play with you just as you traveled to Aether in the past to play with them?

It makes it sound like they aren't actually your friends.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Why aren't your friends coming to Dynamis to play with you just as you traveled to Aether in the past to play with them?

It makes it sound like they aren't actually your friends.

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I can't expect a large group of people to all come over here, then they worry about getting back into nn when they go home blahblahblah, and theyre all on different schedules. especially since everyone was sure the restriction would've been lifted this patch due to it not being needed anymore
but we chat in discord on and off all day as per usual .. just waiting on this restriction to be lifted, then i go back there, wait for my road buff to fall off, then i transfer over when it isnt congested

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Originally Posted by 1313

also , on the topic of this dc is this and that dc is that... its really not. Aether isnt for doing all content, aether is where the ultimate raiders tend to gravitate to. that makes sense, since ultimates have a smaller number of people doing them... savage/extreme can be done on any data center, no need to travel. RP runs wild on aether and primal, not just on crystal. dont travel for content unless youre going to meet with friends. if youre going solo for a pf raid , just stay home.

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Unfortunately, I got to disagree with that one on savage. Endwalker raiding population basically migrated to Aether to the point that all parties on other servers were silently murdered and that happened gradually over time until it hit the zenith around mid-2nd tier. There's zero reason that isn't going to happen again this expac.

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Originally Posted by 1313

I can't expect a large group of people to all come over here, then they worry about getting back into nn when they go home blahblahblah, and theyre all on different schedules. especially since everyone was sure the restriction would've been lifted this patch due to it not being needed anymore
but we chat in discord on and off all day as per usual .. just waiting on this restriction to be lifted, then i go back there, wait for my road buff to fall off, then i transfer over when it isnt congested

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Apologies if this sounds harsh but get some new friends.

If getting into Novice Network is more important than seeing you then genuinely, you're better off. That's one of the weakest excuses I've ever seen and I've been here for a while.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Apologies if this sounds harsh but get some new friends.

If getting into Novice Network is more important than seeing you then genuinely, you're better off. That's one of the weakest excuses I've ever seen and I've been here for a while.

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Yes, lets inconvenience an entire group of people because there is an unnecessary restriction in place, that will not work in any case at least for the reason they are doing it, which is to force people to make characters on Dynamis.

Clearly, the second they open dc travel and world transfer, people wont go back to aether for raiding, because dynamis such an amazing dc /s

The delusion that people will stay on Dynamis after the dcs open is beyond comical.

People will transfer off, or at the very least go to other pre-existing dcs via dc travel that are much more populated to do what they want to do, just like in the past, nothing will change, its a ridiculous attempt at stretching dynamis being "alive".

I've been on Dynamis for about 10 months, and I would have loved to see the DC thrive, but locking people in place is not the way to do this, give more rewards to people creating characters on dynamis, encourage fcs to move by giving massive rewards, anything else but this, Dynamis players get to play on 1 DC, while others can play on 2, I dont see how its fair in any way, especially if you consider that JP has 4 DC's and only 1 is locked down and has DC travel closed on it, while the other 3 remain for DC travel.

They are pushing it because they know the community never says anything.

But sure, Dynamis can enjoy another 11 days of being "alive" until people go back to their pre-DT routine. Have at it.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Yes, lets inconvenience an entire group of people because there is an unnecessary restriction in place, that will not work in any case at least for the reason they are doing it, which is to force people to make characters on Dynamis.

Clearly, the second they open dc travel and world transfer, people wont go back to aether for raiding, because dynamis such an amazing dc /s

The delusion that people will stay on Dynamis after the dcs open is beyond comical.

People will transfer off, or at the very least go to other pre-existing dcs via dc travel that are much more populated to do what they want to do, just like in the past, nothing will change, its a ridiculous attempt at stretching dynamis being "alive".

I've been on Dynamis for about 10 months, and I would have loved to see the DC thrive, but locking people in place is not the way to do this, give more rewards to people creating characters on dynamis, encourage fcs to move by giving massive rewards, anything else but this, Dynamis players get to play on 1 DC, while others can play on 2, I dont see how its fair in any way, especially if you consider that JP has 4 DC's and only 1 is locked down and has DC travel closed on it, while the other 3 remain for DC travel.

They are pushing it because they know the community never says anything.

But sure, Dynamis can enjoy another 11 days of being "alive" until people go back to their pre-DT routine. Have at it.

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Are you done beating the dead horse yet? We heard you the first 5 times you've said Dynamis is going to die. You aren't adding anything new to your posts.

I genuinely don't know why you're arguing with me. If someone is picking Novice Network over a person, then they clearly don't care about the person in the way they should. What requirement is there that everyone has to go together to see their friend? Can none of them go on their own to hang out?

If you want friends that care more about being in a chat room than seeing you, fair enough LOL. I have more respect for myself than that but to each their own.

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Originally Posted by 1313

I can't expect a large group of people to all come over here, then they worry about getting back into nn when they go home blahblahblah, and theyre all on different schedules. especially since everyone was sure the restriction would've been lifted this patch due to it not being needed anymore
but we chat in discord on and off all day as per usual .. just waiting on this restriction to be lifted, then i go back there, wait for my road buff to fall off, then i transfer over when it isnt congested

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I kind of am sorry to have to tell you this, but.. agreeing to all go to a place that works for everyone is the 101 of how to behave as a group of friends. Especially when the entire effort required is three extra clicks on the login screen.

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Originally Posted by freekyfreezer

I welcome it and hope they keep it as long as possible. A Chaos-free Light DC is a good DC

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Always have to hear from the selfish trolls. Those playing on Dynamis do not want to be stuck there. If you do not play there you do not have a voice in this.

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Originally Posted by Serenitey

Always have to hear from the selfish trolls. Those playing on Dynamis do not want to be stuck there. If you do not play there you do not have a voice in this.

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Im glad someone actually defends dynamis players tbh for once

Like legitimately as of right now, anyone outside of Dynamis has 3 DC's to play in, their main DC, Materia and Dynamis

Dynamis players have... Materia, which is completely empty, we have 1 less DC to play in, while we watch everyone travel to our DC. Mind you we also pay the same subscription for a sub par experience thanks to this useless restriction, and the excuse of congestion does not exist anymore, if anything, Seraph has more queue than Aether at peak times because Seraph basically became the new temporary Aether.

Dynamis players never asked to be the temporary Aether, we wanted the DC to have population yes, but not to become the trash can DC that everyone goes to while we are stuck there.

Its also extremely hypocritical when JP has 3 DCs open for DC travel and only one locked down

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Originally Posted by 1313

I can't expect a large group of people to all come over here, then they worry about getting back into nn when they go home blahblahblah, and theyre all on different schedules.

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You don't get removed from nn when you travel, you are automatically in the nn of the server you travel to and still in the nn of your home server when you travel back

If Out of a large group of people, none will travel to play the game with you. Sorry, they are not your friends.

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Originally Posted by Serenitey

Always have to hear from the selfish trolls. Those playing on Dynamis do not want to be stuck there. If you do not play there you do not have a voice in this.

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Yes I do.... I hate the mindset we have to leave anything accomplish. That probably is what hurts Dynamis the most as a DC. I would love to never have to transfer off.

[QUOTE=SophiaDL;6543353]Yes, lets inconvenience an entire group of people because there is an unnecessary restriction in place, that will not work in any case at least for the reason they are doing it, which is to force people to make characters on Dynamis./QUOTE]
THis is pretty much it, i'm not going to make all of them come here just to see my character in person. its not like we arent in contact, but i cant expect a big group of people with different schedules to come over to do roulettes with me ... we all have different schedules , mine probably being the most unstable of all of them. the solutiuon is just letting us play on the same server, but nah. cuz reasons. or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Unfortunately, I got to disagree with that one on savage. Endwalker raiding population basically migrated to Aether to the point that all parties on other servers were silently murdered and that happened gradually over time until it hit the zenith around mid-2nd tier. There's zero reason that isn't going to happen again this expac.

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the only reason people migrated to aether for raiding is because of the misinformation spread by players saying that "if you want to get content done you go to aether".. i raided in p5-8 on crystal and it was no different than raiding on aether. my partial static decided to go to aether a couple times to see if we had better luck. there was no difference at all, aside from a few more pf listings for the same stuff. bottom line is, people need to listen to what people asy, and not twist the words and refrain from spreading misinformation. its an old thing they call broken telephone... one person whispers a sentence into someones ear, then that person repeats it to another person, who then passes it on again. by the time its gone through 50 people , the original message "ultimate raiders go to aether since theres less of them, it makes sense to meet in one spot" to "all players who need to use party finder need to go to aether for everytihng because we dont do content anywhere else at all ever"

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Originally Posted by Glamour

You don't get removed from nn when you travel, you are automatically in the nn of the server you travel to and still in the nn of your home server when you travel back

If Out of a large group of people, none will travel to play the game with you. Sorry, they are not your friends.

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Incorrect. You are remvoed from (server name) novice network the instant you leave the server. You then rejoin nn on another server, if it isn't full, but that doesn't matter. Then, when returning to home world, you attempt to rejoin the filled novice network and cannot gain access to it due to it being full. The options then become: spam the join button and hope to sneak in between people coming and going, or just let it auto rejoin as you change areas, eventually ... whenever that is. Coming from servers on aether which are extremely popular means that getting into nn is going to be next to impossible because there's thousands of mentors there already. We are not sprouts who have 412 slots assigned for them, we are mentors. We get 100 slots, and its always filled on aether.

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Originally Posted by Mcg55ss

Yes I do.... I hate the mindset we have to leave anything accomplish. That probably is what hurts Dynamis the most as a DC. I would love to never have to transfer off.

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Then you can just stay if you oh so want to stay there, no one is forcing you.

A lot of people managed to make content work before DT, all you had to do was make a PF and wait for a while and you could do any content, even frontlines especially close to DT.

We shouldnt all be locked on Dynamis because you want to do content there, people have friends on other DC's and want to see them and play with them.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Then you can just stay if you oh so want to stay there, no one is forcing you.

A lot of people managed to make content work before DT, all you had to do was make a PF and wait for a while and you could do any content, even frontlines especially close to DT.

We shouldnt all be locked on Dynamis because you want to do content there, people have friends on other DC's and want to see them and play with them.

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then transfer, you didn;'t come here and make friends on other DC's stop lying, you came here cuz it was EZ to get a house you got it and then transfer out immediately only coming by once in awhile to make sure you maintain your house. People like that are nothing but parasites to Dynamis and should honestly be removed from the server. Also if your friends CARED about playing with you guess where they would be???? here. My friends are, sounds to me like you are liked enough for them to come spend their time here with you.

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Originally Posted by Mcg55ss

then transfer, you didn;'t come here and make friends on other DC's stop lying, you came here cuz it was EZ to get a house you got it and then transfer out immediately only coming by once in awhile to make sure you maintain your house. People like that are nothing but parasites to Dynamis and should honestly be removed from the server. Also if your friends CARED about playing with you guess where they would be???? here. My friends are, sounds to me like you are liked enough for them to come spend their time here with you.

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Buddy you dont even know me, nor what and why I moved to Dynamis, I originally am from EU, not from NA, who are you to tell me what I moved for and why I moved ? We aint friends, dont pretend that we are, and that you know why I moved.