Discontinued Content - NEED more answers

1) will primal battles go as well? and with them our chances to obtain their drops?

2) will discontinued achievements still display on the UI as forever unattained ones?

3) will cutter's cry and the aurum vale still exist? and will DL gear still drop from the 5 chests?

4) will stronghold and their bosses stay?

5) will some faction leves be removed? If so, which ones?

6) will skirmish and its drops stay?

7) will ALL cutscenes stay on the journal or will the dated one be gone?


Please community add questions, Yoshi will reply /nod :o:o

1) yes we have been told this before

6) Skirmish prolly wont, drops will

1.) Yoshida confirmed numerous times Primal Battles would be changing due to their intwined nature with the 7th Umbral Era.
3.) Yoshida confirmed all dungeons will be in 2.0.
4.) Stronholds were also going to be revamped.
5.) Leve System was confirmed to be revamped.
6.) Skirmish probably not.

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Originally Posted by Ralliare

1) yes we have been told this before

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Don't listen to them, they don't know either.

if it's not on the list, it's going to be changed

The only answer we know for sure is things are changing

the lodestone post we got today was very unclear as to what is being changed/removed EXCEPT for the fact the achievments are going

primals may still be here
dungeons too

what may be happening is the fights are changing(due to new mechanics of the game specificaly) so they are adding new achievemnts for them and removing the old?

we dont know, we could use some clarification for sure on what is actualy going to be gone or if its just the achievemnts themselves

These are just my guesses, but...

1) I'd imagine that even though the Primals will be roaming with the addition of Free Companies, summoning them, etc. we'll still be able to fight them in their current form seeing as how they're tied into the Relic weapon quest. Can't comment on drops though, they still haven't told us.

2) I would guess not, as that wouldn't really be fair to new players, nor does it make sense from a design standpoint. They said they're working on making them viewable on your Lodestone history, so that'll probably be all we get.

3) Again, tied to Relic quest, and as Elexia said, Yoshi-P has said in the past that they'll all be in 2.0.

4) Yes, for sure.

5) No way of knowing, and as Elexia said, leves are going through another reform, so we'll have to wait and see.

6) Seeing as how it's tied to the Seventh Umbral Era, they'll probably be removed, but that would be a shame. Maybe they'll just change the context of the battles instead.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

3.) Yoshida confirmed all dungeons will be in 2.0.

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One exception being, I believe, Shposhae.

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Originally Posted by Keres

One exception being, I believe, Shposhae.

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That would be incredibly silly on their part, considering Shposhae was probably the most praised of all of the dungeons. We're well aware of CC/AV staying, but I would hope they would change the way they work, rather than being the same way as they currently are. As of right now I can't say that any of the dungeons seem really fun.

Would really appreciate some answers to these questions.

I would love to know if I should be holding on to my Primal Weapons, or if I am free to trade them for seals. Can we still get them in 2.0, and will they be equivalent versions, stat-wise? I remember in older games, Like Asheron's Call, when "Pre-Patch" versions of weapons and equipment became the most desirable pieces of equipment.

Same goes for Darklight, will it still be obtainable in 2.0?

Great Job on the recent patch devs =) Deus Darnus really had that classic FF feel, in the vein of Sephiroth/Kefka/Zeromus, you guys are really doing a fantastic job on this game!

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Originally Posted by Guevara

1) will primal battles go as well? and with them our chances to obtain their drops?

2) will discontinued achievements still display on the UI as forever unattained ones?

3) will cutter's cry and the aurum vale still exist? and will DL gear still drop from the 5 chests?

4) will stronghold and their bosses stay?

5) will some faction leves be removed? If so, which ones?

6) will skirmish and its drops stay?

7) will ALL cutscenes stay on the journal or will the dated one be gone?


Please community add answers, Yoshi will reply /nod :o:o

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Almost nothing you listed is in any way 7th umbral era specific and is not being removed.

As far as I know the only stuff that's surely being removed are things like the garlean city in vasions, the crap with deaspected crystals and faded pages, stuff like that. I could be wrong but the primal battles and stronghold and instances and stuff aren't going anywhere.

Skirmish was JUST added, and again doesn't have anything to do with the 7th umbral era story. Why the hell would they remove this?

With some of the achievements going away do you think the rewards/titles for them will be taken from those that have earned them?

Some I'd say can probably be put into their updated 2.0 achievements to be re-earned, but things like the holiday titles may not.

Mind if I give this a little bump?

I do'nt mind, I want some clarification on some of these things as well. They could easily keep the primals battles and reintroduce them into the new storyline..

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Almost nothing you listed is in any way 7th umbral era specific and is not being removed.

As far as I know the only stuff that's surely being removed are things like the garlean city in vasions, the crap with deaspected crystals and faded pages, stuff like that. I could be wrong but the primal battles and stronghold and instances and stuff aren't going anywhere.

Skirmish was JUST added, and again doesn't have anything to do with the 7th umbral era story. Why the hell would they remove this?

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Do you actually read the text or just skip over it? The Primal battles have very much to do with the 7th Umbral Era. So does Darkhold, and Skirmish does tangentially. That doesn't mean they are going away though, the Primal battles specifically have been stated to be staying, but the quests you use to get to the primals will be changed (because they have to do with the 7th Umbral Era) obviously.

I just hope I get to keep my Sword of Eorzea title. :/

I want those answers as well. . . . Loud and clear. The info on Lodestone just threw me off. I do remember them mentioning that current primal fights are going away, and I sort of remember something about the weapons as well. But remembering or hearing from people on the forums who "have heard" or "remember" something someone said god knows how long ago is not good enough!

There's been so much talk, during the previous months, about stuff that won't make it into 2.0 and for a discontinued content list, what we have on Lodestone right now is just, dare I say, stupid. Gobbue, guild marks and achievements.

Will we have the completed titles and achievements still in our in-game list, even if not available any more? Can we get a clear "yes" or "no" on primal weapons still being obtainable through some other primal mechanic? And skirmish, as I understood it, is tied to the 7th Umbral Era, and they said all of that content will be inaccessible. . . .

hope the new content dont make it where all you do is throw blm's at it, and yeah people still do it.

I'd like some clarification on the primals as well.
Some people say they are gone for good while others are saying it will just be different. Would love an official statement.

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Originally Posted by Veronica

I'd like some clarification on the primals as well.
Some people say they are gone for good while others are saying it will just be different. Would love an official statement.

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I could see the storyline/cutscenes/dialogue changing to fit the new era while the mechanics of the fight stay the same. Taking away primal fights completely after spending so much time on them would be a shame, especially considering we still need to see several more 'released'. The kobolds worship Titan, but he hasn't been mentioned. I'm sure the other beastmen have their allegiance elsewhere, and the beastmen loyalty to primals is a very interesting aspect of the game. Of course, I have no REAL answers, but this is how I imagine it happening. I'll be very disappointed if they are removed completely.

As far as the primal weapons... I don't think it will REALLY matter if they keep/remove the weapons. For all we know, they might change the way we obtain the weapons. Perhaps all primals will imitate the way Garuda totems/weapons work. But... by the time 2.0 hits, there will surely be better weapons. They need to add new content for people who are already ready for endgame.

I just want to know more about the seasonal events, gave us a list of achievements sill obtainable till 2.0 except them. I wish they would leave these ones in :(

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

I could see the storyline/cutscenes/dialogue changing to fit the new era while the mechanics of the fight stay the same. Taking away primal fights completely after spending so much time on them would be a shame, especially considering we still need to see several more 'released'. The kobolds worship Titan, but he hasn't been mentioned. I'm sure the other beastmen have their allegiance elsewhere, and the beastmen loyalty to primals is a very interesting aspect of the game. Of course, I have no REAL answers, but this is how I imagine it happening. I'll be very disappointed if they are removed completely.

As far as the primal weapons... I don't think it will REALLY matter if they keep/remove the weapons. For all we know, they might change the way we obtain the weapons. Perhaps all primals will imitate the way Garuda totems/weapons work. But... by the time 2.0 hits, there will surely be better weapons. They need to add new content for people who are already ready for endgame.

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For me, it in not a matter of powerful weapons. I want primal weapons to collect them all XD

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1) will primal battles go as well? and with them our chances to obtain their drops?

2) will discontinued achievements still display on the UI as forever unattained ones?

3) will cutter's cry and the aurum vale still exist? and will DL gear still drop from the 5 chests?

4) will stronghold and their bosses stay?

5) will some faction leves be removed? If so, which ones?

6) will skirmish and its drops stay?

7) will ALL cutscenes stay on the journal or will the dated one be gone?

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1) yeah the current fights will be gone, primals will become roaming nm's after that nothing else was said.

2) they are going to try and keep them on lodestone.

3) the raid will still be there but good chance they'll be different.

4) strong hold will be come instanced and optimized

5) who knows about this nothing will be the same as it was.

6) skirmish might stay or go.

i think skirmish is a good system for content thats instanced even leves can take advantage of that BUT they do really need to let you in the lobby area even when your alone you still need to talk to the npc again anyways and it would clear a ton of people in town all in one spot and just keep you in that area.

Bumping for information. :)

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Originally Posted by indira

1) yeah the current fights will be gone, primals will become roaming nm's after that nothing else was said.

2) they are going to try and keep them on lodestone.

3) the raid will still be there but good chance they'll be different.

4) strong hold will be come instanced and optimized

5) who knows about this nothing will be the same as it was.

6) skirmish might stay or go.

i think skirmish is a good system for content thats instanced even leves can take advantage of that BUT they do really need to let you in the lobby area even when your alone you still need to talk to the npc again anyways and it would clear a ton of people in town all in one spot and just keep you in that area.

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another persopn giving opinion as fact, do not follow this, its not confirmed

Well, everything is speculation to be honest. The 'Discontinued Post' said a lot without saying really anything...

1. Primals, we know they will be roaming and controlled by the Company that takes them down. What we DON'T know is if there will be 'easier' versions of the primals for storylines and small parties to kill...I kinda doubt this as the achievements will be gone for the clears, but who knows. If the Garuda and Iffy extreme parts of the relic questline REQUIRE killing the Roaming Primal...lots of people are gonna get screwed out of Relics if they aren't in a large, competitive Company... but again, no one knows what's gonna happen.

Basically, if you like having 7/7 weapons on the 3 primals... DON'T turn them in for seals until 2.0...when you know what's up.

2. In the original post on the lodestone from the Devs on this topic they hinted they are still working on a way to display any achievements you earned that are no longer in game in your Lodestone History. I take this to mean, that currently, all old achievements no longer will show UNLESS they solve the problem.

3. Using FFXI and the Wings of the Goddess expansion as a reference, the old dungeons will probably remain, BUT will be 'dated' somehow...like have damage, rock falls that closed off sections, something that makes them the same, but different. Like how Citadel was damaged and worn out in normal FFXI and expansions but in mint condition in the Wings of the Goddess expansion as it took place years BEFORE the main story.

4. Faction Leves...have no idea other than they will be changed a fair bit. But that could just mean how you earn them to how they are done to what you get to what type of battle they are. Nothing was mention about loosing the Harliquin, Templar or Buccaneer Achievement though, so I'm gonna assume we will keep many of the old leves somehow.

5. Nothing was said about not getting the skirmish achievements post 2.0. Based on this, I'd say skirmish remains in game...now whether the rewards will remain the same...who knows.

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Originally Posted by Veronica

I'd like some clarification on the primals as well.
Some people say they are gone for good while others are saying it will just be different. Would love an official statement.

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I really hope they'd tell us if the primal fights will be in 2.0 as they are in current version and if we'll be able to get all the primal drops the same way than in current version. And same things for raids (CC / AV).

Anyone else reckon they should make Garuda easier in 1.23a?

The majority of people who have weapons got them from the pre-hotfix BLM spam, and with slight adjustments the fight could be made easier, but still be a challenge.

For example:
Garuda spawns less Razor Plumes when she uses 'Plumage'
Suparna to get a HP rebalance to match Chirada.

I think these small changes would allow people to not only pug the group, but allow the fight to be less gear dependant, and allow everyone who doesn't want to miss out on these primal weapons to be able to get them. Opinions?

It's already PUGable and saying everyone that have weapon is from BLM-burn is just ignorant.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

It's already PUGable and saying everyone that have weapon is from BLM-burn is just ignorant.

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I didn't say everyone, I said the majority.

Now who's ignorant?

Yes that was my fault but either way i doubt its happening because for most, Garuda is already easier than Moogle due to how scripted the whole fight is. It's just doing the same thing over and over again, it's not as random as Moogle where the king might randomly lose hate and AoE eveyrone.

There is no way in seven hells the Moogle fight is easier than Garuda.

Sure, you may get unlucky and have the Momento -> Pom Flare wipe combo, or random Pom Flare wipes but Garuda is consistantly hard.

I wasn't asking for a flat out, guaranteed win. I was asking for some slight rebalancing where I've noticed parties fall down on from trying it since the BLM hotfix and that is for two reasons:

1.) Razor Plumes aren't dying, which leads to the rocks dropping, and Aerial Blast hitting like a tonne of bricks.
2.) Suparna is porting on 1-5%HP and wiping the party with Mistral Shriek.