Square Enix telling us all to spoil DT story for ourselves is totally unacceptable.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...1a14f1df8597cc

Announcing the Chocorpokkur Twitch Viewer Rewards Campaign!

We are excited to announce a new collaboration with Twitch to celebrate the launch of Dawntrail! Players will be able to get their hands on some neat in-game items as well as the adorable Chocorpokkur mount by watching participating FINAL FANTASY XIV streamers live on Twitch.
Campaign Duration

From Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 1:00 a.m. (PDT) to Monday, July 29, 2024 at 1:00 a.m. (PDT)
Campaign Rewards

Watch any participating Twitch channel streaming FINAL FANTASY XIV Online with the "Viewer Rewards" tag and receive item codes for the following rewards based on how many accumulative hours watched:

1 Hour Watched: EXP Boost Meal Set (Buttery Mogbiscuit & Fat Choco Choco) x10
3 Hours Watched: Aetheryte Ticket x10
6 Hours Watched: Chocorpokkur Whistle (Mount) x1

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Seriously Square Enix? Have you thought this through? Do you know what all the streamers would be streaming in July? The Main Scenario Quest!

Tell your event managers to delay this event NOW. This is totally the wrong time to do it because if we want to get the Chocorpokkur mount we have to spoil ourselves by watching Twitch. This is totally unacceptable.

By the way, some people say you can just mute it, but you cannot without using some browser extension or something. So what if someone who doesn't know? Then they'll 100% get spoiled. The timing is just so bad.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Nope, you actively have to watch to accumulate progress towards each campaign tier. Twitch (Amazon) over the years since the Twitch drops feature has existed have gone out of their way to make sure viewers cannot passively let streams simply run.

- You cannot run the stream in the background anymore.
- you cannot mute the sound anymore. (you can turn the sound down but muting halts progress)
- you cannot let the account watching the stream go idle anymore.

I've participated in a lot of these twitch drop campaigns over the years for different mmorpg's/online games, and it just keeps getting worse, and while i don't think many would really bat an eye over the feature; having a twitch drop campaign at the beginning on an expansion for a game that traditionally tends to keep it's spoilers close to the vest; .....it really is an awful idea.

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Chloe

You would be surprised how many people don't actually play the games they're "fans" of.

Its more than likely with promotions like this that a few channels will just leave the game running and do nothing just so people can farm the drops.

I'm not really a Twitch user but I have gotten drops just by opening a window and leaving everything on mute while doing something else, I don't think this will be any different.

Nice, can I just let this running and go to work? LMAO

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Originally Posted by Cach

You would be surprised how many people don't actually play the games they're "fans" of.

Its more than likely with promotions like this that a few channels will just leave the game running and do nothing just so people can farm the drops.

I'm not really a Twitch user but I have gotten drops just by opening a window and leaving everything on mute while doing something else, I don't think this will be any different.

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If you don't know the streamers you could very easily go into a stream with spoilers. Imagine getting spoiled what the final boss is just because you searched FF14 in Twitch.

Also, look at what Neoyoshi said

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Nope, you actively have to watch to accumulate progress towards each campaign tier. Twitch (Amazon) over the years since the Twitch drops feature has existed have gone out of their way to make sure viewers cannot passively let streams simply run.

- You cannot run the stream in the background anymore.
- you cannot mute the sound anymore. (you can turn the sound down but muting halts progress)
- you cannot let the account watching the stream go idle anymore.

I've participated in a lot of these twitch drop campaigns over the years for different mmorpg's/online games, and it just keeps getting worse, and while i don't think many would really bat an eye over the feature; having a twitch drop campaign at the beginning on an expansion for a game that traditionally tends to keep it's spoilers close to the vest; .....it really is an awful idea.

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Chloe

Plenty of ways to achieve this without actually watching a stream.

Low effort troll. Be better.

if this works like any other twitch event then you can simply tune into a sponsored twitcher mute the volume switch to a different tab and once an hour check back to see if they are still streaming if so click away again and do something else for another hour if not then tune into the next sponsored twitcher and repeat until you've got all 6 hours racked up, this is how i've done all my twitch events i cant stand twitch i dont know how anyone can find joy in watching others play games

this wont be a problem if you already got the mount from buying butterfingers.

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Originally Posted by Balmung_Griffin

Nice, can I just let this running and go to work? LMAO

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Nope, you actively have to watch to accumulate progress towards each campaign tier. Twitch (Amazon) over the years since the Twitch drops feature has existed have gone out of their way to make sure viewers cannot passively let streams simply run.

- You cannot run the stream in the background anymore.
- you cannot mute the sound anymore. (you can turn the sound down but muting halts progress)
- you cannot let the account watching the stream go idle anymore.

I've participated in a lot of these twitch drop campaigns over the years for different mmorpg's/online games, and it just keeps getting worse, and while i don't think many would really bat an eye over the feature; having a twitch drop campaign at the beginning on an expansion for a game that traditionally tends to keep it's spoilers close to the vest; .....it really is an awful idea.

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Originally Posted by RaideDuku

Plenty of ways to achieve this without actually watching a stream.

Low effort troll. Be better.

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Ok? How do you get the mount without watching the stream on Twitch? You got a hack or something huh?

Chloe

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

if this works like any other twitch event then you can simply tune into a sponsored twitcher mute the volume switch to a different tab and once an hour check back to see if they are still streaming if so click away again and do something else for another hour if not then tune into the next sponsored twitcher and repeat until you've got all 6 hours racked up, this is how i've done all my twitch events i cant stand twitch i dont know how anyone can find joy in watching others play games

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You can't anymore, see what Neoyoshi said.

This is just terrible for players who don't want to be spoiled.

Chloe

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Nope, you actively have to watch to accumulate progress towards each campaign tier. Twitch (Amazon) over the years since the Twitch drops feature has existed have gone out of their way to make sure viewers cannot passively let streams simply run.

- You cannot run the stream in the background anymore.
- you cannot mute the sound anymore. (you can turn the sound down but muting halts progress)
- you cannot let the account watching the stream go idle anymore.

I've participated in a lot of these twitch drop campaigns over the years for different mmorpg's/online games, and it just keeps getting worse, and while i don't think many would really bat an eye over the feature; having a twitch drop campaign at the beginning on an expansion for a game that traditionally tends to keep it's spoilers close to the vest; .....it really is an awful idea.

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I don't get why they don't do this event in August when streamers will be streaming the Savage raid.

Instead they do it right when streamers are all streaming MSQ?? What gives?

Chloe

If your going to do this bs whoever you are, stop using my name to tag your post. .. also them suggesting it is a view point you can ignore it or not.. again please stop or atleast stop tagging yourself with "chloe"

Some things with Twitch drops:

1) Make sure the streamer you're watching is actually part of the campaign. Some people like to be sneaky and try to get views by claiming they're streaming for the promotion when they're not. You can double-check the "time viewed" to make sure it's ticking up.

2) As others have mentioned, things may be spoiled. Would recommend opening it in a separate window and mute that tab. I've read conflicting reports on whether or not muting directly on Twitch affects drops, so just check your timers to make sure all is good. :P

3) With some drops, you have to claim the reward from each tier as you hit it in order to continue the timer. Others let you watch 6 hours (or whatever their requirement is) straight and then claim all prizes at the end.

4) If you're going to be tabbed out primarily, just check back in every once in awhile to make sure the person is still streaming.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Nope, you actively have to watch to accumulate progress towards each campaign tier. Twitch (Amazon) over the years since the Twitch drops feature has existed have gone out of their way to make sure viewers cannot passively let streams simply run.

- You cannot run the stream in the background anymore.
- you cannot mute the sound anymore. (you can turn the sound down but muting halts progress)
- you cannot let the account watching the stream go idle anymore.

I've participated in a lot of these twitch drop campaigns over the years for different mmorpg's/online games, and it just keeps getting worse, and while i don't think many would really bat an eye over the feature; having a twitch drop campaign at the beginning on an expansion for a game that traditionally tends to keep it's spoilers close to the vest; .....it really is an awful idea.

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Just saw this.....

So the last drop I particpated in was probably a year...maybe year and a half ago. Did they really change all that since then? D:

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Originally Posted by YouMayNot

You can't anymore, see what Neoyoshi said.

This is just terrible for players who don't want to be spoiled.

Chloe

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It might be possible that we can still mute the browser tab itself and the drop counter would still work, buuuut, in the case of FFXIV, the tab itself still has to be active and not be hidden as a background process, so in the end, people would still have to keep the stream window active.

There could be and probably are browser extensions that could circumvent all of what i outlined, so i should have mentioned that. Plus i think being a twitch subscriber allows the account a bit more wiggle-room, but i'm only going off my own personal experiences, with the most recent being Diablo 4 Twitch drops.

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Originally Posted by YouMayNot

If you don't know the streamers you could very easily go into a stream with spoilers. Imagine getting spoiled what the final boss is just because you searched FF14 in Twitch.

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So, how about you don't search for FF14 on Twitch when you know that a new expansion released and you don't want to see spoilers?

That event is running for almost a whole month. More than enough time to finish the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by Shialan

So, how about you don't search for FF14 on Twitch when you know that a new expansion released and you don't want to see spoilers?

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Then why would Square Enix tell you to do it with the Twitch drop event?

Chloe

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

It might be possible that we can still mute the browser tab itself and the drop counter would still work, buuuut, in the case of FFXIV, the tab itself still has to be active and not be hidden as a background process, so in the end, people would still have to keep the stream window active.

There could be and probably are browser extensions that could circumvent all of what i outlined, so i should have mentioned that. Plus i think being a twitch subscriber allows the account a bit more wiggle-room, but i'm only going off my own personal experiences, with the most recent being Diablo 4 Twitch drops.

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Most people won't know about those extensions... They need to delay this, it's just very bad timing.

Well, I will personally miss out on the mount because I am not chancing any spoiler.

Chloe

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Some things with Twitch drops:

1) Make sure the streamer you're watching is actually part of the campaign. Some people like to be sneaky and try to get views by claiming they're streaming for the promotion when they're not. You can double-check the "time viewed" to make sure it's ticking up.

2) As others have mentioned, things may be spoiled. Would recommend opening it in a separate window and mute that tab. I've read conflicting reports on whether or not muting directly on Twitch affects drops, so just check your timers to make sure all is good. :P

3) With some drops, you have to claim the reward from each tier as you hit it in order to continue the timer. Others let you watch 6 hours (or whatever their requirement is) straight and then claim all prizes at the end.

4) If you're going to be tabbed out primarily, just check back in every once in awhile to make sure the person is still streaming.






Just saw this.....

So the last drop I particpated in was probably a year...maybe year and a half ago. Did they really change all that since then? D:

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Unless they changed/reverted some rules about that around, i was in some Diablo 4 streams earlier this year for drops and people were finding out in real time that muting was halting progress, and that turning the sound down to the lowest point seemed to be safe, but muting wouldn't allow progress.

We'll find out when this campaign starts up if any of that is still in place.

the hours are cumulative so theres an easy remedy to the tab having to be active

1. if you have 2 monitors simply open twitch on your 2nd monitor mute the stream then scroll down so that the tab is active but you cant see or hear anything

2. when you go to work simply tune into a stream and let it run, rack up the hours without watching a thing

3. same as 2 except do it while you are sleeping

You have until July 29th. If you can't finish the story before then, a Twitch stream is the least of your worries when it comes to potential spoilers.

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Originally Posted by YouMayNot

Then why would Square Enix tell you to do it with the Twitch drop event?

Chloe

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So you know that this event is happening and where to find the participating streamers.

Sometimes I wonder if you trolls have nothing more worthwhile to do with your life.

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Originally Posted by Shialan

So you know that this event is happening and where to find the participating streamers.

Sometimes I wonder if you trolls have nothing more worthwhile to do with your life.

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What is your problem?

People who want the mount cannot get it without spoiling themselves (unless they go through a lot of hoops to set up a fake stream, which most people don't know about!) Apparently this is "troll" now?

Chloe

Put cell phone on charger. Pull up Twitch. Turn off sleep mode. Turn volume nearly off. Put face down. Profit.

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Apparently this is "troll" now?

Chloe

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Yes.

Because you keep ignoring that you DO NOT have the required hours right at the beginning of the event. You have 27 days.

As someone who actively collects twitch drops for various games I'm gonna clear up some misinformation cause this thread is a little too "the sky is falling".

1. It's true you need to have the sound "active", but this means you can set it to 1%, or just mute the tab (but keep the volume up on the actual video player).

2. You don't need to have the tab up front and center. Twitch allows for at least 3 streams to be open and considered "active" before it starts to mess with you "viewing" the streams. Other websites won't interfere with this at all unless your browser has a setting to deactivate inactive tabs. You should be able to continue browsing the internet while still getting drops, and you are especially able to just minimize your browser and play FFXIV.

This is all true for at least Chrome. Other browsers may have settings that conflict with this, so I can't say for sure how it'll interact with them.

However, you should be able to easily put your volume to 1% (and then your browsers volume to 1% if you aren't using it and want to make extra sure you hear nothing) and scroll the stream down til you can only see the very bottom pixel/the name of the game being played, then go about your business checking the tab now and then to make sure they are still streaming. This will guarantee that you hear nothing and see nothing while still getting credit. The only "risk" is maybe seeing something on the thumbnails when choosing a stream, but like just squint or blur your eyes when doing that I guess. Also keep a drops tab open and check your progress through that since there will be no stream playing there and you'll see how far along you are/be able to claim the rewards.

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Originally Posted by Shialan

Yes.

Because you keep ignoring that you DO NOT have the required hours right at the beginning of the event. You have 27 days.

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Do you know how long the MSQ takes? People who only play 1 or 2 hours a day aren't going to finish it before the event ends.

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

As someone who actively collects twitch drops for various games I'm gonna clear up some misinformation cause this thread is a little too "the sky is falling".

1. It's true you need to have the sound "active", but this means you can set it to 1%, or just mute the tab (but keep the volume up on the actual video player).

2. You don't need to have the tab up front and center. Twitch allows for at least 3 streams to be open and considered "active" before it starts to mess with you "viewing" the streams. Other websites won't interfere with this at all unless your browser has a setting to deactivate inactive tabs. You should be able to continue browsing the internet while still getting drops, and you are especially able to just minimize your browser and play FFXIV.

This is all true for at least Chrome. Other browsers may have settings that conflict with this, so I can't say for sure how it'll interact with them.

However, you should be able to easily put your volume to 1% (and then your browsers volume to 1% if you aren't using it and want to make extra sure you hear nothing) and scroll the stream down til you can only see the very bottom pixel/the name of the game being played, then go about your business checking the tab now and then to make sure they are still streaming. This will guarantee that you hear nothing and see nothing while still getting credit. The only "risk" is maybe seeing something on the thumbnails when choosing a stream, but like just squint or blur your eyes when doing that I guess. Also keep a drops tab open and check your progress through that since there will be no stream playing there and you'll see how far along you are/be able to claim the rewards.

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So I have to go through all this tech tweaks just to get the mount safely without getting spoilered. Why don't they just shift it to July?

Chloe

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So I have to go through all this tech tweaks just to get the mount safely without getting spoilered. Why don't they just shift it to July?

Chloe

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Bro it's just lowering the volume and scrolling down on a webpage a little bit. I'd hardly call that "tech tweaks"...

The campaign is ongoing for quite awhile, just finish the story before tuning in to twitch no big rush to jump on it the second it launches.

Or the MSQ is so bad they want everyone to rush it and then kickstart the "What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Dawntrail? " topic on the forums :)

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

Bro it's just lowering the volume and scrolling down on a webpage a little bit. I'd hardly call that "tech tweaks"...

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Don't call me bro thanks

Chloe

There will be plenty of time to do this over several days while waiting in the login queue. Open a stream, leave your headphones on the desk and go make food or go for a walk or something.

You can just put a stream on mute in a tab you aren't looking at for a few hours.

FFXIV clubs often have the ffxiv tag. Those streams are just music over a cast of the interior of a house. Watch one of those. no spoilers.

I find it strange myself. In a Lodestone post they ask us to not spoil other players who want to experience the Dawntrail in their own speed and at the same time want us to watch Streams and potentially spoil ourselves.

Does it work if you play the game and have Twitch open in a browser? Because when playing the game, the browser can't be the active window.

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Ok? How do you get the mount without watching the stream on Twitch? You got a hack or something huh?

Chloe

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I use a secondary machine, like a tablet, a notebook, a smartphone.

Not that big of a deal in 2024.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Nope, you actively have to watch to accumulate progress towards each campaign tier. Twitch (Amazon) over the years since the Twitch drops feature has existed have gone out of their way to make sure viewers cannot passively let streams simply run.

- You cannot run the stream in the background anymore.
- you cannot mute the sound anymore. (you can turn the sound down but muting halts progress)
- you cannot let the account watching the stream go idle anymore.

I've participated in a lot of these twitch drop campaigns over the years for different mmorpg's/online games, and it just keeps getting worse, and while i don't think many would really bat an eye over the feature; having a twitch drop campaign at the beginning on an expansion for a game that traditionally tends to keep it's spoilers close to the vest; .....it really is an awful idea.

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This is false, or only applies to some games. wow had a drop last month that i got by muting the tab and watching youtube instead

It does say you have to actually be engaged and watching the stream. Fortunately, there is enough time to do this after completing the MSQ. I take multiple weeks to get through everything but there is enough time at the end of July to catch a stream.

This is running for a month. This is going to be a non-issue for the majority of people who play this game since the majority will be finished MSQ within that month. All of the streamers will be done MSQ within the first few days I would expect in the race to push out content first.

If you want the mount then do DT yourself first and then go get it through drops after?

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It does say you have to actually be engaged and watching the stream. Fortunately, there is enough time to do this after completing the MSQ. I take multiple weeks to get through everything but there is enough time at the end of July to catch a stream.

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What would "engaged and watching" entail? It could mean different things.

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The "Streams played in the background or via inactive tabs won't count towards the hours watched criteria." is most likely just a notice on how Twitch drops works and not anything special about FFXIV twitch drop per say.
So if one can still get drops on twitch with a muted tab it'll most likely work for FFXIV drop as well.

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Originally Posted by YouMayNot

Don't call me bro thanks

Chloe

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When I first clicked on the thread, I thought, "Huh, I've never really considered this before, but there might be some truth to it." However, as I read further, it became increasingly clear that you're just trolling or trying to provoke a reaction.