House availability on Dynamis

Copying this from the Dynamis Data Center Discord.

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Housing Availability Estimates for each world in this bidding period (entry period ends June 25, 2024 8:00 AM PDT in 3 days)

Cuchulainn: 4177~ personal
Golem: 4257~ personal
Halicarnassus: 817~ personal, 9~ FC (3~ ARR city)
Kraken: 3986~ personal
Maduin: 1127~ personal, 4~ FC (1~ ARR city)
Marilith: 1056~ personal, 13~ FC (4~ ARR city)
Rafflesia: 4162~ personal
Seraph: 123~ personal, 8 FC (3 ARR city)

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FC houses not counted on the 4 newest worlds since the soonest any FCs will be eligible to enter the lottery is mid-July (i.e. for now it's all still available).

Keep in mind that each of the new worlds started with 450 large, 1050 medium and 3000 small personal houses (4500 total). That means there are plenty of larges and mediums still available on all 4 worlds if that's what you want to get. The super prime plots like Mist 5/35 and LB 11/41 are likely sold out but you pretty much have your pick otherwise.

now i get that you're trying to lead people to where there is housing available but as i've stated previously before the world visit system is just horrendous in its current state and needs to be revised and revisited if its to be a viable system in junction with people continuing to play with friends and so does the queuing system for it also need to be revised.
and i get it, its tiring dealing with all these complaints, fights, and promised solutions with no end in sight but i personally believe that if they just designed a completely separate housing system specifically for single player owners that allows for full customization of size this would eliminate the desire for the "neighborhood PVP" we all hate dealing with. not only would this probably free up a bunch of those neighborhoods in the ward system but it would satisfy a bigger number of players that just want to have their own nice place to decorate an show off to their friends or invite guildmates too etc. without needing to sacrifice convenience of where they play with their friends and guild

but this is good information to share with newer players who might be jumping into FFXIV and not sure what server they should choose if they want to experience this niche but much loved and desired feature.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

now i get that you're trying to lead people to where there is housing available but as i've stated previously before the world visit system is just horrendous in its current state and needs to be revised and revisited if its to be a viable system in junction with people continuing to play with friends and so does the queuing system for it also need to be revised.
and i get it, its tiring dealing with all these complaints, fights, and promised solutions with no end in sight but i personally believe that if they just designed a completely separate housing system specifically for single player owners that allows for full customization of size this would eliminate the desire for the "neighborhood PVP" we all hate dealing with. not only would this probably free up a bunch of those neighborhoods in the ward system but it would satisfy a bigger number of players that just want to have their own nice place to decorate an show off to their friends or invite guildmates too etc. without needing to sacrifice convenience of where they play with their friends and guild

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I think what Jojoya is doing is just making it very clear where the houses are, new player or not. This is the housing forum, everyone here who doesn't have a house wants one. Many of us have advocated continuously for Dynamis' housing as a solution for those who have expressed their frustration with the lack of opportunity to obtain their desired plot. This is a rare opportunity. If you really do want your plot badly enough, relying on DC travel is a small price to pay.

DC travel takes no time. It's not hard, it's fast and one can visit with friends as long as they like. The only negatives really are not having access to mail and retainers (especially if you're an active seller who needs to undercut). Cross world link shells are thing, one does not need to be a FC member to communicate.

Granted it will be a mess at the start of DT but that's a plus for a DC like Dynamis. It will get people queuing for duties instead of going elsewhere and the growth of the DC should be large with new players making characters there.

You want housing it's there but it won't be forever as the DC fills up.

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Originally Posted by Impia

This is the housing forum, everyone here who doesn't have a house wants one. Many of us have advocated continuously for Dynamis' housing as a solution for those who have expressed their frustration with the lack of opportunity to obtain their desired plot. This is a rare opportunity. If you really do want your plot badly enough, relying on DC travel is a small price to pay.

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i already understand that there is housing available on other or newly formed worlds/datacenters but some people have been playing for months and years an not gotten a house they've wanted for so long but in the meantime have already established a home on their current worlds with groups and friends we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences when we all pitch in with subscriptions every month or every 3-6 months for some we're not just pencil pushers or npc's dawdling mindlessly but we're consumers and paying customers if we have concerns that's why they need to be addressed don't force your fellow player to settle on anything or to just give up on better ideas or solutions that's a quitter attitude its okay to be frustrated because this situation is frustrating especially so when its purposely a divisive thing instead of being something that ALL should have cause we all pay the same fees (some go an extra mile ofc with the mogstation goods and other merch but thats over generalizing an whole other can of worms which shouldn't matter in this context anyways)
this thing of telling other people where they should go and how they should play is the exact same thing as that old additive of "you can lead a horse to water, but that doesn't mean they'll drink it." in otherwords its an exercise in futility an you'll never convince people to see world visiting as this novel or gold standard idea it just won't happen especially if there is a better alternative that could be implemented.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

DC travel takes no time. It's not hard, it's fast and one can visit with friends as long as they like. The only negatives really are not having access to mail and retainers (especially if you're an active seller who needs to undercut). Cross world link shells are thing, one does not need to be a FC member to communicate.

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Taken from the direct game site itself here are some restrictions which hinder players rather than help them enjoy the game with this "visit system" i am going to prove right now its not all its cracked up to be an that we seriously need revisions or just need a new entire housing system be implemented and retire the ward system.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...de/worldvisit/
You cannot travel to the Firmament while outside your Home World.
Bonuses will not be applied for visiting new or preferred Worlds.
Legendary and unspoiled gathering nodes are inaccessible.
Ranked matches cannot be joined.
Deep Dungeon results will not be saved to leaderboards.
Lord of Verminion tournaments cannot be entered.
Triple Triad tournaments cannot be entered.
Cactpot tickets cannot be purchased.
Eternal Bonding quests are unavailable.
Others' ceremonies cannot be attended.
Invitations cannot be distributed.
Company credits cannot be earned.
The effects of company actions will not be applied.
Free company chat cannot be used.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Granted it will be a mess at the start of DT but that's a plus for a DC like Dynamis. It will get people queuing for duties instead of going elsewhere and the growth of the DC should be large with new players making characters there..

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the world vist/data center hoping was only made with the idea of limiting server congestion because stormblood proved how bad it can get with overpopulation and even then it wasn't enough they still had to add in seperate instanced servers to handle the overwhelming numbers and now they've purchased more server space to host even more players in anticipation that Dawntrail is going to implode the servers which as you say will fast fill up these new worlds over the course of a week
but this is not going to solve the housing issues once all those plots fill up then what? do we just tell everyone to go back home??? do we tell them "sorry champ you didn't catch the rush" well that actually sounds familiar doesn't it? because it is we've said that in the past too and look where we are today so clearly adding more servers won't fix anything at all and you'll be back here again seeing the same complaints all over again.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

but this is not going to solve the housing issues once all those plots fill up then what? do we just tell everyone to go back home??? do we tell them "sorry champ you didn't catch the rush" well that actually sounds familiar doesn't it? because it is we've said that in the past too and look where we are today so clearly adding more servers won't fix anything at all and you'll be back here again seeing the same complaints all over again.

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I agree in the sense that the current system will never have enough plots for every player, let alone every player that wants them. I don’t think we need to “retire” the wards, but I do think we need an instanced system created in addition to them. There needs to be something that addresses scarcity, both of a plot in general, and of size.

But I think the point of the thread is, this is what is available now. We can campaign for improvements here, since this is where the devs tell us to put our feedback. However, as far as we know, they have no housing plans for Dawntrail beyond the item limit increase and the “mirage” which remains to be seen exactly what that will do for interiors. Which means about a couple years, give or take, before we can really expect to see any further developments in housing. If you really want a house, and don’t want to wait literally years, this is your best shot. Judging by what’s still available after the first round, not a lot of people have made the move.

Now is housing just the “carrot on the stick” to get people to spread out and fill Dynamis? Will they look at more housing ideas and improvements after they consider it filled enough? It might take awhile if that’s the criteria they’re looking at, because only 2 of Dynamis’ original 4 worlds are really “full” at this point. When they’re all more or less full, and we come back and say “now what?” I guess then we’ll find out for sure if the scarcity is on purpose!

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

i already understand that there is housing available on other or newly formed worlds/datacenters but some people have been playing for months and years an not gotten a house they've wanted for so long but in the meantime have already established a home on their current worlds with groups and friends we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences when we all pitch in with subscriptions every month or every 3-6 months for some we're not just pencil pushers or npc's dawdling mindlessly but we're consumers and paying customers if we have concerns that's why they need to be addressed don't force your fellow player to settle on anything or to just give up on better ideas or solutions that's a quitter attitude its okay to be frustrated because this situation is frustrating especially so when its purposely a divisive thing instead of being something that ALL should have cause we all pay the same fees (some go an extra mile ofc with the mogstation goods and other merch but thats over generalizing an whole other can of worms which shouldn't matter in this context anyways)
this thing of telling other people where they should go and how they should play is the exact same thing as that old additive of "you can lead a horse to water, but that doesn't mean they'll drink it." in otherwords its an exercise in futility an you'll never convince people to see world visiting as this novel or gold standard idea it just won't happen especially if there is a better alternative that could be implemented.

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How does any of that warrant this adverse response to someone just telling people where the houses are and how to get them?


I'm sorry but all the suggestions and wishes and fairy dust in the world won't change our immediate reality. People who want a house any time soon need to work within the framework we have *now* You can argue as much as you want, but if you want it badly enough then that's the sacrifice you have to make. Are you really going to advocate for inaction in the hopes that maybe, someday, something might change to make it easier to get a house without moving? Because even if it does, you could be on the hook for another few years and it may just never happen.



It's not like those friends are just going to disappear if you transfer, I see my friends from Ultros all the time and literally nothing has changed.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences

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As much as I agree with your general sentiment here, that doesn't turn the housing system into what players should have access to. Outside of the rumors that Housing Mirage will allow players to change interior sizes (which could be a mistranslation), SE is showing no signs they intend to update housing in a way to make houses more accessible to every player regardless of home world.

There comes a point when people need to deal with the reality of a situation instead of waiting for what they want it to be. If a NA player feels that a house ownership is important to their game play, the best data center to get one is Dynamis.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

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Also something to keep in mind-- once the early access releases in 5 days, the 3 dc's of Aether/Primal/Crystal will be locked for traveling. So you won't be seeing anyone from other servers anytime soon (if you want to visit the main dc's). Then youre just stuck on dynamis with no one you know lol. They havent clarified how long that lockout will be for hopping datacenters (other than dynamis). I'm guessing minimum 3-6 months after DT release

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

Also something to keep in mind-- once the early access releases in 5 days, the 3 dc's of Aether/Primal/Crystal will be locked for traveling. So you won't be seeing anyone from other servers anytime soon (if you want to visit the main dc's). Then youre just stuck on dynamis with no one you know lol. They havent clarified how long that lockout will be for hopping datacenters (other than dynamis). I'm guessing minimum 3-6 months after DT release

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Counterpoint: Transferring to Dynamis got me Shiro 46 and Lav11, and my wife got a medium in the same world. If we had to be stuck for an indefinite period with strangers to do it, we'd do it again in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by Impia

Counterpoint: Transferring to Dynamis got me Shiro 46 and Lav11, and my wife got a medium in the same world. If we had to be stuck for an indefinite period with strangers to do it, we'd do it again in a heartbeat.

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And there's nothing wrong with that! That's absolutely a viable option. However, for those transferring to Dynamis dc, these next few months will not be available to travel to the big 3 for the first couple months (and a lot of people are coming back to DT). I've never had issues with getting a house on any dc ive played in (whether that was Aether, Primal, Crystal, or Dynamis). Just have to know when to get in and get it lol

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Originally Posted by Impia

I'm sorry but all the suggestions and wishes and fairy dust in the world won't change our immediate reality. People who want a house any time soon need to work within the framework we have *now* You can argue as much as you want, but if you want it badly enough then that's the sacrifice you have to make. Are you really going to advocate for inaction in the hopes that maybe, someday, something might change to make it easier to get a house without moving? Because even if it does, you could be on the hook for another few years and it may just never happen.

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See this is what i meant by quitter attitude you're giving up without even trying just basically saying "bite the bullet or get nothing at all" i'm trying to advocate for something everyone can have without restriction and without needing to inconvenience yourself or others.
you might not like it or call it annoying but persistence is the key into being heard and having your concerns looked at and while i know this thread is only on the housing topic lets just for an example look at the Healer strike movement that was started and became trending this wouldn't have happened or gotten so much coverage in so short a time if people hadn't been persistent enough and i am 100% certain this strike movement has reached the eyes or ears of a developer by now who can make it a talking point at their next meeting etc. and thats all that really needs to happen for housing too is just for it to be brought up to the developers attention so that they can consider it an option they may not go thru with it thats fine if they announce that they can't thru interview or other media outlets that would be more than enough to make their stance clear but until such notice we should openly continue to bring it up at every opportunity.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

See this is what i meant by quitter attitude you're giving up without even trying just basically saying "bite the bullet or get nothing at all" i'm trying to advocate for something everyone can have without restriction and without needing to inconvenience yourself or others.
you might not like it or call it annoying but persistence is the key into being heard and having your concerns looked at and while i know this thread is only on the housing topic lets just for an example look at the Healer strike movement that was started and became trending this wouldn't have happened or gotten so much coverage in so short a time if people hadn't been persistent enough and i am 100% certain this strike movement has reached the eyes or ears of a developer by now who can make it a talking point at their next meeting etc. and thats all that really needs to happen for housing too is just for it to be brought up to the developers attention so that they can consider it an option they may not go thru with it thats fine if they announce that they can't thru interview or other media outlets that would be more than enough to make their stance clear but until such notice we should openly continue to bring it up at every opportunity.

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Then you and anyone else following this mindset will have to come to terms with missing out on having your pick of houses this week and may remain unhoused for longer than you expect. There will not be another opportunity like this for quite some time.

"Quitter?" I scrimped and saved and waited for years in a small for an opportunity, any opportunity. I bid on every medium and large that cropped up to no avail.

When Dynamis opened I saw that opportunity and transferred immediately, seizing my dream personal mansion on Shiro 46 and starting a small FC that now lives in Lav11. I did not quit, I took what was there.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

As much as I agree with your general sentiment here, that doesn't turn the housing system into what players should have access to.

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and you would be right on that, that screaming no matter how loudly we all want a restriction-less house won't necessitate implementation will become reality and i do appreciate you for making this information readily available to players who are new and might want to try this feature out or for those less fortunate who've waited more than what should be acceptable by a paying customer/consumer.

but thats why i feel so strongly about it, there shouldn't be any waiting, no restrictions on size or location, and everyone should be able to own/buy one regardless of their preferred server or server they want to share with their friends and build up a community on etc.

lets not hang up the towel just yet until they finally tell us it will never happen or they're too technically limited to make it work then i'd say GG we tried time to move on to better pastures an enjoy other things etc.

i have my own small plot an i am content with it but if a better option became available to me i'd happily hand over my small to someone who desires it or needs it would be nice if we could relinquish deeds to our friends/tenants.

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Originally Posted by Impia

"Quitter?" I scrimped and saved and waited for years in a small for an opportunity, any opportunity. I bid on every medium and large that cropped up to no avail..

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perhaps you mistook what i meant by quitter, i'm sorry for the confusion let me try to explain, when i say that i mean it in the sense of just giving up on asking the developers to explore other means of house acquisition in favor for a system that would be more beneficial to all players not just the lucky few
you can still call it a pipe dream if you must but i want every player to enjoy this feature its fantastic maybe not the greatest in the world ofc but it still adds something extra to do and look at an or visit ingame other videogames of this caliber have achieved what i'm advocating for more or less so there is no excuse for why it can't be done here as well outside of maybe their infrastructure is worse off than we might think and can't handle or process that much weight but they've made no official comments otherwise so i don't think its an unreasonable request to be made until they just outright tell us themselves its not feasible or achievable which they have not so i'll continue to ask for it til then.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

perhaps you mistook what i meant by quitter, i'm sorry for the confusion let me try to explain, when i say that i mean it in the sense of just giving up on asking the developers to explore other means of house acquisition in favor for a system that would be more beneficial to all players not just the lucky few
you can still call it a pipe dream if you must but i want every player to enjoy this feature its fantastic maybe not the greatest in the world ofc but it still adds something extra to do and look at an or visit ingame other videogames of this caliber have achieved what i'm advocating for more or less so there is no excuse for why it can't be done here as well outside of maybe their infrastructure is worse off than we might think and can't handle or process that much weight but they've made no official comments otherwise so i don't think its an unreasonable request to be made until they just outright tell us themselves its not feasible or achievable which they have not so i'll continue to ask for it til then.

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I don't think you should give up either, but I don't think that a thread that breaks down the info for people hopping ship to the new world in hopes of securing their homes is quite the right place for this. I would support a dedicated thread rallying your sentiment, but again, we must also do what we can within our circumstances until such time as things actually change. Your only guarantee is what you yourself decide to do next.

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

Also something to keep in mind-- once the early access releases in 5 days, the 3 dc's of Aether/Primal/Crystal will be locked for traveling. So you won't be seeing anyone from other servers anytime soon (if you want to visit the main dc's). Then youre just stuck on dynamis with no one you know lol. They havent clarified how long that lockout will be for hopping datacenters (other than dynamis). I'm guessing minimum 3-6 months after DT release

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this^ and not to mention they are going to hard lock you from being able to purchase a house immediately so by the time you're able to even begin to start settling your feet on plot you may want and by then you're likely going to have to fight 5-10 other bidders and then hate yourself for transferring an ending up having to wait to see who was a bot/alt account abusing the system or just plain settle for a less than desirable location/plot size if you even get one at all for the first lotto round.

There seems to be some misinformation here so I wanna clarify a couple of things.

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

Also something to keep in mind-- once the early access releases in 5 days, the 3 dc's of Aether/Primal/Crystal will be locked for traveling. So you won't be seeing anyone from other servers anytime soon (if you want to visit the main dc's). Then youre just stuck on dynamis with no one you know lol. They havent clarified how long that lockout will be for hopping datacenters (other than dynamis). I'm guessing minimum 3-6 months after DT release

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Travel lock to the 3 older NA datacenters will last until patch 7.05 at the latest. That's on July 30, 4 weeks after launch when savage launches. The current estimate for lifting travel restrictions is patch 7.01, 2 weeks after launch.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

this^ and not to mention they are going to hard lock you from being able to purchase a house immediately so by the time you're able to even begin to start settling your feet on plot you may want and by then you're likely going to have to fight 5-10 other bidders and then hate yourself for transferring an ending up having to wait to see who was a bot/alt account abusing the system or just plain settle for a less than desirable location/plot size if you even get one at all for the first lotto round.

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There is no hard lock on being able to buy a house on the new Dynamis servers. Some houses already have bids and this can be verified in game. The current bidding cycle ends in 21 hours so people still have time to transfer if they want a private mansion with zero competition.

The only "lock" is when you make a new free company. A player has to be a member of the fc for 30 days before bidding.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

There is no hard lock on being able to buy a house on the new Dynamis servers. Some houses already have bids and this can be verified in game. The current bidding cycle ends in 21 hours so people still have time to transfer if they want a private mansion with zero competition.

The only "lock" is when you make a new free company. A player has to be a member of the fc for 30 days before bidding.

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Yep, they even opened the new servers on the first day of a bidding cycle, so people that were there day 1 could bid right away. I think they’re on their second lotto right now.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

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Oooooo, cool. I definitely missed that then when I was skimming through the information and hadn't fully read through it lol. I appreciate the update! :D

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

lets not hang up the towel just yet until they finally tell us it will never happen or they're too technically limited to make it work then i'd say GG we tried time to move on to better pastures an enjoy other things etc.

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I'm definitely not giving up on asking for it.

But how many people want to keep waiting years for a maybe that doesn't happen? I'd rather make the best use of what is available than deny myself completely hoping that things will change 5 years from now. If SE does decide to change things, it will not happen overnight.

Just speculation and not to be taken seriously by anyone: they've called Cosmic Exploration the new Restoration. Is that just in the sense of it's more of a community oriented effort or is it because it will be leading up to new housing in 8.x? If the later, "cosmic" is fairly broad where the Firmament was a specific location. Could it be an instanced system more along the lines of what we've seen in other games? I don't think I will ever give up my dream of seeing RIFT Dimensions added here. That housing system in the FFXIV universe with the FFXIV graphics style would be fabulous.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Yep, they even opened the new servers on the first day of a bidding cycle, so people that were there day 1 could bid right away. I think they’re on their second lotto right now.

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Correct. I have several friends who picked up houses in the first lottery and they've been decorating them while waiting for Early Access.

The second lottery entry period ends tomorrow morning (NA time). Still a huge number of larges and mediums available on the 4 new worlds.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Just speculation and not to be taken seriously by anyone: they've called Cosmic Exploration the new Restoration. Is that just in the sense of it's more of a community oriented effort or is it because it will be leading up to new housing in 8.x? If the later, "cosmic" is fairly broad where the Firmament was a specific location. Could it be an instanced system more along the lines of what we've seen in other games? I don't think I will ever give up my dream of seeing RIFT Dimensions added here. That housing system in the FFXIV universe with the FFXIV graphics style would be fabulous.

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Wouldn’t that be a dream? :D I’d be totally satisfied with an instanced plot that I could pick the background scenery (ie: neighborhood or location theme) of… anything more would make me ecstatic!

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I'm definitely not giving up on asking for it.

But how many people want to keep waiting years for a maybe that doesn't happen? I'd rather make the best use of what is available than deny myself completely hoping that things will change 5 years from now. If SE does decide to change things, it will not happen overnight.

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it is wise not assume change to happen overnight this i know, but at the same token lets keep up our persistence in asking is all i am saying we won't know anything tell they they just lay it out plain for us why it will or will not happen.

at the very least island sanctuary taught me some things about what they can do with instanced based space and while its a reach to say that it will lead to a personal lot or home its still a hope that they've seen what we've asked for an are experimenting with ideas.

i'd like it if this cosmic exploration lead to us owning a little moon that'd be cute and fun but my bet is that its not gunna be like that more than likely it will be very much the same as the firmament or the doman enclave just a spot we helped build up an can visit on occasions or for endgame content etc.

BTW, the preliminary patch notes have a huge update on Dynamis (and the EU worlds added in 2022) housing. All 30 wards will be open Saturday and lot of the full set will be changed to mixed FC/private plots.

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Changes will go into effect on Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 8:00 a.m. (PDT) / 15:00 (GMT) / June 30, 2024 at 1:00 a.m. (AEST)

All Worlds in the Dynamis Data Center / Phantom / Sagittarius / Alpha / Raiden
Ward Eligible to Purchase Land
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Ward 2 Free Companies
Ward 3 Free Companies
Ward 4 Free Companies
Ward 5 Free Companies
Ward 6 Free Companies
Ward 7 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 8 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 9 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 10 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 11 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 12 Free Companies/Private Buyers
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Ward 15 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 16 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 17 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 18 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 19 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 20 Free Companies/Private Buyers
Ward 21 Private Buyers
Ward 22 Private Buyers
Ward 23 Private Buyers
Ward 24 Private Buyers
Ward 25 Free Companies
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Ward 30 Private Buyers