No Blitzball :(

I'm really disappointed and sad that Yoshi-P announced that they will never implement Blitzball, because they don't want to spend time developing something maby noone wants to play.

Even though they already have a lot of experience creating stuff in the golden saucer that nearly noone touches.
And considering that the amount of voluntary side content is advertised as one of FFXIV'S strengths.

If they chose to implement Blitzball, it wouldn't need to be a fancy revamped version. The old version was good enough.
So for me, I would just be super happy if they just implemented a football manager styled minigame where you managed your teams stats, formation, levels and skills that you could send out against other teams while you do other stuff. And with a possibility to spectate the game.

Blitzball would fit with Dawntrail's inspiration to aztec society as they had a ballgame, and since Dawntrail also has allusions to FFX.

And considering they hinted to something Blitzball in the Hildibrand quests and that they had considered for a long time how they could implement Blitzball, I'm really surprised by Yoshi-P's announcement.
And I'm surprised that Blitzball has gotten so much hate from both the FFXIV community and Yoshi-P.

And I may never get my answer, but atleast I loved Blitzball from FFX and I think it would be a really nice addition to FFXIV as a manager styled minigame.

So I choose to still wait, even if it takes 10+ years, I'll be here ❤️

I hope that others feel the same and that our wishes reach the developers.

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Originally Posted by Tetsujin13

So for me, I would just be super happy if they just implemented a football manager styled minigame where you managed your teams stats, formation, levels and skills that you could send out against other teams while you do other stuff. And with a possibility to spectate the game.

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That's FFX-2's Blitzball in a nutshell and was a pale knock-off from the more engaged system from FFX. FFX-2 Blitzball has been criticized at inception from what I recall. I'm sorry but I really do not want resources be put into that.

If ever, it should actually be an engaging activity, but therein lies the problem - without the right structure + replayability (i.e. reason to keep people playing) it will be dead on arrival if not a few weeks after - which is exactly why Yoshida does not want to develop it. The risk for this is way too significant, especially if you want a more fleshed out version of Blitzball.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

That's FFX-2's Blitzball in a nutshell and was a pale knock-off from the more engaged system from FFX. FFX-2 Blitzball has been criticized at inception from what I recall. I'm sorry but I really do not want resources be put into that.

If ever, it should actually be an engaging activity, but therein lies the problem - without the right structure + replayability (i.e. reason to keep people playing) it will be dead on arrival if not a few weeks after - which is exactly why Yoshida does not want to develop it. The risk for this is way too significant, especially if you want a more fleshed out version of Blitzball.

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I'm kind of the same. It's really disappointing that there will be no blitzball, but honestly if it was the version from x-2 and not the version from x where you actively played, I would probably not even touch it. I don't think there's much point in a simulation minigame that you can only watch playout.

Sadly, if they created a active minigame it just might wind up never getting enough players to work out. Really sad outcome.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

Sadly, if they created a active minigame it just might wind up never getting enough players to work out. Really sad outcome.

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I'm guessing they learned their lesson from Lord of Verminion, which is probably the closest thing to Blitzball they've put in the game.

I feel like there is already some bare-bones form of this in the game, aka squadrons. While I know you want something more akin to fantasy football, hear me out.

The squadron system does ""technically"" have stats mechanics and the ability to choose which style of tactics they use in battle (from offensive to healing, etc). There are also training regimens for it to increase and decrease general stats before sending them out on missions. There is also the option of using them for levelling your character by running dungeons with them. (You can also choose who you want minus Viera and Hroth...which is a result of neglected content. But you can also customize their appearances in later tier unlocks.)

Squadrons have been sorrowfully ignored and a revamp to include setting them up against other player's squadrons could be an interesting concept to elaborate on and, maybe, give the ignored content a new breath of life. (It'd feel in a similar vein to the battle in the HW patch between the GCs or PVP. Either way, it feels like there is something there that could be pulled for creating a version of "fantasy football" / Blitzball lol.)

Remember Hutt Ball from SWTOR?

Perhaps this is something worth exploring into alternative pvp modes.

When people ask for Blitzball they're typically thinking of the awesome intro cutscene to FFX and not the actual boring clunky slog of the minigame itself. If Blitzball were added to FFXIV everyone would zone in, go "oh wait this sucks," and it would be dead within a week. The devs are exactly right for choosing not to waste time and resources on it.

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Originally Posted by Tetsujin13

And I may never get my answer

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You got your answer. It was a resounding "NO."

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

I'm guessing they learned their lesson from Lord of Verminion, which is probably the closest thing to Blitzball they've put in the game.

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I think a big part of that was that Verminion stinks. It's not a good game and they haven't really put a lot of resources into it. You can certainly do more with your minions than FFXIV does. WoW basically has Pokemon-lite and I think that's been a resounding success.

"Blitzball in FFXIV" is the new "Geno in Smash Bros".

FFX is my favourite in the series by a large margin, but even I know that Blitzball is a janky mess when it's fun, let alone when it's just downright frustrating. I did enough Blitzball to try get the celestial weapon once and, frankly, I'm happy if I never have to see it again.

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Originally Posted by arstoka

I feel like there is already some bare-bones form of this in the game, aka squadrons. While I know you want something more akin to fantasy football, hear me out.

The squadron system does ""technically"" have stats mechanics and the ability to choose which style of tactics they use in battle (from offensive to healing, etc). There are also training regimens for it to increase and decrease general stats before sending them out on missions. There is also the option of using them for levelling your character by running dungeons with them. (You can also choose who you want minus Viera and Hroth...which is a result of neglected content. But you can also customize their appearances in later tier unlocks.)

Squadrons have been sorrowfully ignored and a revamp to include setting them up against other player's squadrons could be an interesting concept to elaborate on and, maybe, give the ignored content a new breath of life. (It'd feel in a similar vein to the battle in the HW patch between the GCs or PVP. Either way, it feels like there is something there that could be pulled for creating a version of "fantasy football" / Blitzball lol.)

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I haven't tried the squadrons yet, but yeah. Pitting your squadrons against other squadrons in tournament style with tactics, skills etc.

Maby it doesn't need to be underwater in a watersphere, it could as well be with a football or basketball.

If the teams go against each other, each player against each other. They have stamina that drains with each bout, agility determines turn, strength determines stamina lost and all that stuff, and there's a small chance you get the ball (i.e. not physically chasing it and grabbing it, but just chance) that the player will attempt to shoot at the goal (higher chance to hit goal if opponent is already down).
First to hit the goal wins.

No blitzball :)

Just uh...keep your expectations low for squadrons. They aren't incredibly robust with mechanics.

While I can't see them adding in anything adjacent to football/basketball, maybe combat scenarios or tactics might be more in-line. While its not really my cup of tea in general, it is fun to think about all the possibilities :0

Thank the Twelve, because he's right. Sure, it might be all the rage for 2 weeks, but then no one will play it once the novelty of it runs out. Just like every big side-game they put in the game. I remember how badly people wanted LoV when they put it out as an April Fools gag. How's that going? You can place in the tournament by just participating now because not enough people play to fill up all the winning slots.

I'd rather they concentrate on quick mini-games that take 1-3 minutes to complete. Maybe a new card game? Or a dice game of some sort?

If they DID do another big event, they should run it like they're running the Fall Guys crossover. Have "seasons" that are up for 6 or so weeks, then it goes away for awhile. Offer unique prizes on top of normal MGP. The only difference is I'd add a couple of new prizes each "season" to keep interest up. One that's generally quick to get, and one that takes a bit of playing to get.

Not Blitzball, though. Original Blitzball was boring AF. Maybe there's people that actually truly enjoy it, but you're going to have an extremely hard time convincing me that it's not just nostalgia fooling them.

To be fair, that kind of game is super niche and probably stresses out most rpg fans lol. Now if it was something like a tactical RPG akin to FFT/Tristrat...

But sad that Blitzball won't be a thing - this would have been the perfect opportunity to implement a nice fun lighthearted minigame into the mix. It needs to be something that many people can easily get into without having to rely on multiple modes to keep it fresh

There is blitzball in game. It's on crystal and a rp version of it. Quite good too. Fanbase and everything.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

When people ask for Blitzball they're typically thinking of the awesome intro cutscene to FFX and not the actual boring clunky slog of the minigame itself.

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??? Blitzball was amazing! How dare you. :O

I was one of the insane fools who actively played and enjoyed Blitzball X. X-2 is a whole other bag... I even respected the content and didn't goal post cheese. lol But I know that the game mode would be wasted on XIV sadly.

Which is why it should be a job. Blitzballer/Auroch would be sick as hell. lol

Someone here has a problem understanding that what you want to put you Resources into will be about a little bit SE absolutely someone. It's their resources.

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Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger

Someone here has a problem understanding that what you want to put you Resources into will be about a little bit SE absolutely someone. It's their resources.

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You okay there? :P

It's a shame. I would have loved blitzball in the game.

I wouldnt. Never finished X but I did play enough to encounter blitzball and it was hate at first sight. So please SE dobt waste resources on yet another activity that will die soon. Even as a combat class i doubt it would be any good. Meaning I doubt they can do it justice and make it a fun believable class to play.
Then again they did give us pictomancer *facepalm*

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

There is blitzball in game. It's on crystal and a rp version of it. Quite good too. Fanbase and everything.

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Tell us more!

I'd like Queen's Blood, actually. Put it on a rotation with Triple Triad tournaments. And G-Bike!

Before that, though, or any new games, I'd like some expansions of what's already there. Some more Air Force One stages, maybe another Cliffhanger, give us The Time of Our Life back.

We got a new Leap of Faith recently, so I'd imagine the Air Force One stage would be the most likely.

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Blitzballer will be a class. No way it won't be after GNB, VPR, and PCT. You all will be fine, this is a lot of drama over nothing.

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Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

Blitzballer will be a class. No way it won't be after GNB, VPR, and PCT. You all will be fine, this is a lot of drama over nothing.

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Yeah but I would want a mini-game based around it. Maybe recruit random NPCs to it. How could would it be to see Martyn do the Jecht shot?

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

That's FFX-2's Blitzball in a nutshell and was a pale knock-off from the more engaged system from FFX. FFX-2 Blitzball has been criticized at inception from what I recall. I'm sorry but I really do not want resources be put into that.

If ever, it should actually be an engaging activity, but therein lies the problem - without the right structure + replayability (i.e. reason to keep people playing) it will be dead on arrival if not a few weeks after - which is exactly why Yoshida does not want to develop it. The risk for this is way too significant, especially if you want a more fleshed out version of Blitzball.

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Yeah, I'd much rather have my customized character participate than to just manage a team of npcs.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Remember Hutt Ball from SWTOR?

Perhaps this is something worth exploring into alternative pvp modes.

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that was by far one of the best pvp game modes i've played (until their heavy handed balance failure killed it)

it was so simple and fun and you got well rewarded playing an arena as a team, no solo prodigy could stand up to the most mediocre team that understood passing.

would rush back if they reintroduced it

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Originally Posted by Tetsujin13

Even though they already have a lot of experience creating stuff in the golden saucer that nearly noone touches.
And considering that the amount of voluntary side content is advertised as one of FFXIV'S strengths.

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Which is precisely why they don't want to make that same mistake again. Lords of Verminion likely took a decent amount of resources all to be met with widespread scorn and to have largely been ignored by the playerbase. While a good part of that failure is on the dev team for implementing a version of "minion battles" pretty much no one asked for, it's understandable they're much more hesitant to try something like that again. Heck, even Island Sanctuary didn't turn out anywhere hear what they likely expected.

Yoshida isn't wrong to have that concern. As he explained, if they made a bunch of sweeping changes to make Blitzball work in a multi-player formula then it would essentially be Blitzball in name only. If it's just a football manger, well, they're not going to implement better than games dedicated to that genre. It'd be another Island Sanctuary but worse since it's completely out of focus. Put simply, they just don't have the time to gamble on a side activity of this scale because if it bombs, that's a massive hole in the content release cycle.

the blitzball section in ffx was the worst part of the game, good on YoshiP for not listening to some players on that one, it wouldve bombed massively.

After Lord of Vermillion... I can't really blame them for not wanting to waste the resources making blitzball