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Nah, keep it.

Skill issue.

DOT’s that don’t impact the debuff bar (salted earth, doton, dark passenger, automaton queen) are exactly what we should be using more of

Delete stuff like bow shock or deaths design instead

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

DOT’s that don’t impact the debuff bar (salted earth, doton, dark passenger, automaton queen) are exactly what we should be using more of

Delete stuff like bow shock or deaths design instead

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Not sure if you're mixed up, but this is in the pvp subforum. It's just another player asking for pvp Salted Earth to get nerfed into the ground or deleted because it's heavily abusable.

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Originally Posted by Zairava

Not sure if you're mixed up, but this is in the pvp subforum. It's just another player asking for pvp Salted Earth to get nerfed into the ground or deleted because it's heavily abusable.

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Ah I’m an idiot

Yeah PVP salted earth is a bit cracked but I do like how if you coordinate it’s a good skill

Hmm do I smell salt! Doc run the diagnostic
“High blood pressure. Mouth taste like sea water. By gods! Sir I’ve never seen a case like this before!”

Delete Salted Earth

Ok, but what do we get in return?

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Ah I’m an idiot

Yeah PVP salted earth is a bit cracked but I do like how if you coordinate it’s a good skill

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Not the way that it's currently implemented, however it doesn't need to be "deleted", it's more a question of an adjustment, for FL, likely on the CD and/or number of targets.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Ok, but what do we get in return?

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Peppered Earth?



Sorry, could not help myself. :P

It should be a limit break, not a CD.

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Originally Posted by Taliriah

It should be a limit break, not a CD.

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Trust me you don't want that to be a Limit Break... because if it was one, then it means two things:

1.) mitigation will be allocated elsewhere, making DRK a mobile tanky threat
2.) by virtue of power scaling, it will be a lot more powerful as a limit break action. Possibly greater range, prolonged Bind, uncleansable Bind... just look at the other debuff-inflicting Limit Breaks

I absolutely get that Salted Earth is a meme and a half in largescale PvP, but relegating it to Limit Break is not gonna solve it, nor is outright removal fair because it is one of the more interesting playmaking abilities in 5v5.

What it needs is a cap on how many players get drawn in at once, namely 5. What we also need is a limit to how many times in a short duration people can use draw-in/knockback effects on you, which I'd make 1-2 at most to keep it viable but not obnoxious.

I think generally the jobs are fine in CC, and balancing around it was wise. That said, I would like if more concessions were made for other modes. Like, in this example, if the draw-in for Salted Earth only applied in CC. Keeping the kits working the same across all modes is good though I think we can survive a few exceptions of things becoming better or worse in drastically different game environments.

I could be mistaken, but when people say that Salted Earth should be Dark Knight's Limit Break, I think what's really being requested is for the draw-in effect to be removed from Salted Earth and added Eventide instead which would be a fair request.

Personally, I think it would help if Purify's Resilience buff nullified draw-in and knockback effects.

I'm tired of seeing blobs of Dark Knights in Frontline. Delete Salted Earth.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Ok, but what do we get in return?

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ERP .

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

What it needs is a cap on how many players get drawn in at once, namely 5. What we also need is a limit to how many times in a short duration people can use draw-in/knockback effects on you, which I'd make 1-2 at most to keep it viable but not obnoxious.

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That would be nice, given how many DRKs also like to roam with WARs for the Guard-breaking and Chain-yanking.

Have had my fill of MNKs and MCHs linking up knockbacks as well, and I say that as someone who regularly plays MCH and hangs around other MCH and MNKs, lol.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Trust me you don't want that to be a Limit Break... because if it was one, then it means two things:

1.) mitigation will be allocated elsewhere, making DRK a mobile tanky threat

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No, it shouldn't. DRK have plenty of tools elsewhere already. It should be a straight nerf.

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2.) by virtue of power scaling, it will be a lot more powerful as a limit break action.

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No, it should remain as is, as a limit break. It is currently more powerful than a lot of limit breaks already.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Ok, but what do we get in return?

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Nothing. You get to be as useful/useless as the rest of the classes.

If they remove Sam Limit break or rework it completely then we can talk about Salted Earth.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

If they remove Sam Limit break or rework it completely then we can talk about Salted Earth.

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It's not a combo damage + pull + CC + defense + heal.

Ok, now compare salted earth with DNC's limit break.