What if your patron deity had passive bonuses?

I know they used to give small elemental stat buffs in the past, but I was thinking in something else. What about this:

Halone: +50% experience from defeating enemies outside instances
Menphina: +5% experience gain if bonded partner is in your party; Eternity Ring cooldown reduced by 50%.
Thaliak: +10% movement speed if you're wet (doesn't work inside instances); gains an action that allows to run over water
Nymeia: Can set an extra Free Aetherite Destination; Return cooldown is reduced by 50%
Llymlaen: Reveals Aether Currents and Treasure Chests in the map; +100% experience from discovering a new location
Oschon: Retainer Ventures and Field Exploration are 25% faster, +5% mount speed in all zones
Byregot: 35 extra inventory slots
Rhalgr: +25% experience from PVP
Azeyma: Immune to fall damage; can spend 1 Phoenix Down to revive yourself (doesn't work inside instances);
Nald'Thal: Market Board fee reduced by 50%; sells items to NPCs for double the price; Gil gained by Treasure Hunts increased by 10%;
Nophica: Experience gain from Well Fed increased to 4%; gardening is 25% faster

Which one would you pick?

Althyk. #HardMode

Remember that he once lived. :p

The only bonus worth having from this is byregot.

I can see the forum posts now.

"WTF YOSHIP!!! _____ is USELESS while _____ is SO OP! I can't believe these LAZY DEVS in their GORILLION DOLLAR COMPANY can't even BALANCE THE TWELVE!!!1"

Your Guardian gave more than an elemental resistance in 1.0 though, when you initiated a levequest, you could choose to evoke a 'Guardian's Blessing' that boosted the EXP you gained temporarily (it was the same regardless of which of the Twelve you chose as your Guardian however).

Needless to say, elemental resistances have been removed long ago and the Guardian's Blessing went out the door with the rest of 1.0 (it was technically replaced by Rested EXP by simply idling/logging out in a hamlet or Inn room).

They use to give stat bonuses in the before times. Ask for me why not I picked Nyemia because of her reference to being a spinning wheel back in the day regardless of stats. I'd do the same for that.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

I can see the forum posts now.

"WTF YOSHIP!!! _____ is USELESS while _____ is SO OP! I can't believe these LAZY DEVS in their GORILLION DOLLAR COMPANY can't even BALANCE THE TWELVE!!!1"

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True. TAAAAWHHRRRUUUU :p

(yeah people would probably complain this way)

Perhaps if you /prayed at their sigil stones to receive the buff?

Not a bad idea! The examples tho... Byregot and Oschon are so much more powerful than the others. The former mitigates a huge UX burden of the game and the latter will massively increase your revenue.

If they attached gameplay benefits to the system then in my opinion they would need to add the ability to dynamically change your "deity" in-game, probably via something slightly more inconvenient than switching jobs.

easy nald'thal so i can buy the gold mounts for 50 mil and sell them for 100mil for double profit an infinite money.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

easy nald'thal so i can buy the gold mounts for 50 mil and sell them for 100mil for double profit an infinite money.

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Isn't the selling price for those something like 1000 gil, rather than the 50 mil you buy them for?

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Originally Posted by Jade_Tyrant

Isn't the selling price for those something like 1000 gil, rather than the 50 mil you buy them for?

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after a quick look the answer is yes.

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Originally Posted by Vandso

I know they used to give small elemental stat buffs in the past, but I was thinking in something else. What about this:

Halone: +50% experience from defeating enemies outside instances
Menphina: +5% experience gain if bonded partner is in your party; Eternity Ring cooldown reduced by 50%.
Thaliak: +10% movement speed if you're wet (doesn't work inside instances); gains an action that allows to run over water
Nymeia: Can set an extra Free Aetherite Destination; Return cooldown is reduced by 50%
Llymlaen: Reveals Aether Currents and Treasure Chests in the map; +100% experience from discovering a new location
Oschon: Retainer Ventures and Field Exploration are 25% faster, +5% mount speed in all zones
Byregot: 35 extra inventory slots
Rhalgr: +25% experience from PVP
Azeyma: Immune to fall damage; can spend 1 Phoenix Down to revive yourself (doesn't work inside instances);
Nald'Thal: Market Board fee reduced by 50%; sells items to NPCs for double the price; Gil gained by Treasure Hunts increased by 10%;
Nophica: Experience gain from Well Fed increased to 4%; gardening is 25% faster

Which one would you pick?

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No thank you. This is a bad idea. For one, people would instantly pigeon-hole certain jobs and dieties together for maximum benefit. Since we can be all the jobs, but not swap dieties, this would leave every job except our main one gimped. For another, connecting your character's power to anything other than your skills, traits, and gear, only increases the complexity of the game and its coding. Things like this simple aren't required. Now, if they wanted to do something like with non-combat things, such as a visual element or special emote, fine. But nothing that gives anyone an advantage. This is why the game doesn't have specs, like other games. If someone didn't have the right spec, they get exluded from activities.

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Originally Posted by SailorCeti

This is why the game doesn't have specs, like other games. If someone didn't have the right spec, they get exluded from activities.

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This still happens, the spec is called skill.

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Originally Posted by SailorCeti

No thank you. This is a bad idea. For one, people would instantly pigeon-hole certain jobs and dieties together for maximum benefit. Since we can be all the jobs, but not swap dieties, this would leave every job except our main one gimped. For another, connecting your character's power to anything other than your skills, traits, and gear, only increases the complexity of the game and its coding. Things like this simple aren't required. Now, if they wanted to do something like with non-combat things, such as a visual element or special emote, fine. But nothing that gives anyone an advantage. This is why the game doesn't have specs, like other games. If someone didn't have the right spec, they get exluded from activities.

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I'm not interested in the concept either, but what you're saying makes no sense. Nothing that they listed gives a meaningful combat advantage that would have any connection to your character's power; the closest thing there is the "+10% movement speed while wet" and "can spend a Phoenix Down to revive yourself"... both of which they specified wouldn't work in instances, and neither of which would cause people to "instantly pigeon-hole certain jobs and deities together". None of the advantages they listed, whether you consider them as written or as examples, give meaningful combat advantages in a way that matters.

It feels like you're responding to and rejecting an idea that was never proposed.

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Originally Posted by Jade_Tyrant

I'm not interested in the concept either, but what you're saying makes no sense. Nothing that they listed gives a meaningful combat advantage that would have any connection to your character's power; the closest thing there is the "+10% movement speed while wet" and "can spend a Phoenix Down to revive yourself"... both of which they specified wouldn't work in instances, and neither of which would cause people to "instantly pigeon-hole certain jobs and deities together". None of the advantages they listed, whether you consider them as written or as examples, give meaningful combat advantages in a way that matters.

It feels like you're responding to and rejecting an idea that was never proposed.

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It was a commentary on the overall idea, moreso than on the specifics, and is why we don't have anything tied to them now. The thing is, if they entertain this idea, those are the kinds of things that will creep in.

i like the idea...it would have to be limited to pointless things though. the walking on water is a great exemple. wouls be fun a few times, but it doesnt give any advantages since you can just swim.

Mao does nots like Rhalgr bonus. Mao would prefer it to give boost to Mao burninatings things.

there's already a bad design ideas thread

They sort of tried to have them be mechanically relevant early on by giving a little bit of elemental resistances...

But then they proceeded to not make resistances into a mechanic.

What would happen to your bonuses after the 12 all die at the end of Myths of The Realm?

It would be nice to have passive abilities from our chosen Deity, and a special Limit Break too with the associated weapon.