It's DoL/DoH Time To Party Level

Req. To Enter

• Level 10 DoL/DoH
• Some Crafting / Gathering Knowledge
• 4 DoL
• 4 DoH

This is how the Mini Game Work's, Any questions please ask, Any ideas on how to improve it it please Post.

After you reach level 10 crafting or gather put up you're party flag and search for a party of 8 people, After you have the full party enter into the event/mini. The people cant be more then 5 level gap or the XP will be killed.

When you enter into the event you will be in a room with 2 Boxes, A box for the crafter's and a box for the gather's. First thing is the crafters have to turn on there machines to get them warmed up for crafting while the DoL's go out and click on the tree's Pond or Rock to bring back the items to the room. When they return into the run they click on the box and that puts there items into the machines for the crafter's. Now the crafters have to go the right machines depending on there class E.G. WVR goes to a spinal, BSM to a forge and so on.

When the crafters have got to there machine and it has warmed up they have to craft the item without it breaking and trying to get as high of a quality out of it as possible. IF or when they have finished the item they take it and put it into there box and then they will received some xp for doing so. They can be creating anything at all from crafting tool's to hot lalafell pyjamas. The items they will be creating inside will all depend on what the lowest and highest level are when they enter. When the time is up the end will end and everyone will return to the room, Inside the room will pop a chest where the items the crafter's created will be inside and shared among people evenly.

While inside you will receive a party bonus for crafting and gather that will give you more XP pure action you do.

Ideas/Thoughts

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  Originally Posted by Jynx

  I think a simple good way to encourage people to gather/craft in groups is either allow for more items to be crated/gained from grouping or have specific recipes and materials that only groups can gather.
  
  Of course then you have to take the market into account and people would be upset if they couldn't make a Pwnzage-hatchet axe with just their Blacksmith or Carpenter.
  
  I think group-crafts/gathering could encourage people to at least participate it doesn't need to boost exp or anything.

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  Originally Posted by Asiaine

  If everything is in a closed box, then there is no worry about economy, so this is good.
  However, a few concerns:
  1) Some people like to semi-AFK-craft (just hit enter and not pay attention). What would be the incentive to start paying attention. I.e.: Significant XP gain versus doing on your own?
  2) It may need to be a higher level gap or it would be hard to find people? As well as perhaps not restrict to 8 only. I would think 2-8 would be nice, with a bonus for more people. And XP gained should be scaled down individually.
  
  This could be based on realism:
  A small cottage-industry with 2-3 people making shoes, or a full scale restaurant with 8 people working busily.
  In both industries there could be the master artisan (who would perhaps be level 45) as well as some journeymen (level 30) and apprenteices (level 10).
  
  I can visualize it thusly:
  An instance created. A small mill on the edge of a river. The DoL go out and gather some materials from the forest on the edge and bring it back to the mill. The carpenter puts it in the mill and makes some planks of wood. This is then given to the smith who makes a hatchet out of it. This is then deposited into a box and converted into points for everyone.
  
  Content can scale based on level and quantity of people. There be no need for other rewards. But it COULD lead itself to a 'Shop Defense' mini-game in the future where there is a time limit and a certain number of items have to be made for customers before they get angry.
  
  Yes, I see great potential ^.^. And me spending much time in such an activity.

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  Originally Posted by Denmo

  My added suggestion would be to make it a slight competition, to where whoever produces/gathers the most stuff gets a slight bonus, or first dibs on whatever is made. Or maybe rate the gatherer on the rate and rarity of the items he/she finds, and rate the crafter on the speed and quality they produce.
  
  It'd make more sense if this played into the villages as well. Not the cities necessarily, but the towns located in the maps in 2.0 with small guild houses.
  
  Actually, I'd like to see exp bonus for gatherers and crafters pairing up in teams. A levequest where a Botanist supplies wood for the Carpenter to craft..

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  Originally Posted by Viritess

  Well if we're on the premise of Crafters working on the products on the machines, once the gatherers have brought in the items, they could be tastked with feeding the raw materials into said machine at the correct times.
  
  If items are fed into the machines correctly it can assist the crafter on a better item, or perhaps more room for error on the crafter side.
  
  That way gatherers are still participating. and the crafter is focused on the machines running and the end product. Gatherers are focused on optaining and then infusing the raw materials.
  
  Personally i'd like to see the gatherer's skill at placing raws into the machine give the crafter more room for error instead of a bonus to the end product. I belive this would make it more inclusive for everyone.

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I Will do my best to try and keep the post alive by bumping it only when and if it goes quiet for more than 2 days

Idea Post 2

Idea's From Other FFXIV Player's (Part 2)

Too fun. Please do not implement.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Too fun. Please do not implement.

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Will Be nice to see this in the game will help with people who wanna level there crafting jobs together.

I think a simple good way to encourage people to gather/craft in groups is either allow for more items to be crated/gained from grouping or have specific recipes and materials that only groups can gather.

Of course then you have to take the market into account and people would be upset if they couldn't make a Pwnzage-hatchet axe with just their Blacksmith or Carpenter.

I think group-crafts/gathering could encourage people to at least participate it doesn't need to boost exp or anything.

If everything is in a closed box, then there is no worry about economy, so this is good.
However, a few concerns:
1) Some people like to semi-AFK-craft (just hit enter and not pay attention). What would be the incentive to start paying attention. I.e.: Significant XP gain versus doing on your own?
2) It may need to be a higher level gap or it would be hard to find people? As well as perhaps not restrict to 8 only. I would think 2-8 would be nice, with a bonus for more people. And XP gained should be scaled down individually.

This could be based on realism:
A small cottage-industry with 2-3 people making shoes, or a full scale restaurant with 8 people working busily.
In both industries there could be the master artisan (who would perhaps be level 45) as well as some journeymen (level 30) and apprenteices (level 10).

I can visualize it thusly:
An instance created. A small mill on the edge of a river. The DoL go out and gather some materials from the forest on the edge and bring it back to the mill. The carpenter puts it in the mill and makes some planks of wood. This is then given to the smith who makes a hatchet out of it. This is then deposited into a box and converted into points for everyone.

Content can scale based on level and quantity of people. There be no need for other rewards. But it COULD lead itself to a 'Shop Defense' mini-game in the future where there is a time limit and a certain number of items have to be made for customers before they get angry.

Yes, I see great potential ^.^. And me spending much time in such an activity.

Spikey, you contribute with a lot of interesting and exciting concepts. I think this is an aspect of the game that sorely needs improving, and I hope the Developers' ears are open to creative, out-of-the-box contributions like yours.

+1

R

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Originally Posted by Rutelor

Spikey, you contribute with a lot of interesting and exciting concepts. I think this is an aspect of the game that sorely needs improving, and I hope the Developers' ears are open to creative, out-of-the-box contributions like yours.

+1

R

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Completely agreed, and... I find myself Liking Jynx's opinion for once...

(Nothing personal, Just conflicting nature I s'pose)

So yeah Group Crafting FTW!

Anything is better than spamming enter

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Originally Posted by SirThesd

I find myself Liking Jynx's opinion for once...

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Don't be so suprised, I range on a wide variaty of subjects we are sure to agree on some subjects and not on others I don't take it as offensive. Everyone has an opinion it's when they try and shove it on someone else or deny someone else their opinion is when I think they have gone too far.

They already have a group crafting concept, which they hinted ad briefly a long time ago, though they've yet to implement it (mostly due to the launch storm).

They showed a small screenshot of a bunch of lalafell working together to make a wedding cake.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

They already have a group crafting concept, which they hinted ad briefly a long time ago, though they've yet to implement it (mostly due to the launch storm).

They showed a small screenshot of a bunch of lalafell working together to make a wedding cake.

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yea a friend of mine showed me that shit the other day pretty cool and kinda runs on the idea i kinda had in mind. Just atm there isnt much talk about the crafter classes or garthers getting anything and be nice for them to acully get something, i no they got hamlet but well thats doesnt help level them at all, and the ending result is 1 hat for garther ><

Gatherer's would get the short stick in this. What should they do while waiting for crafters to finish crafting? Keep finding more stuff? Is the stuff they bring in effecting what's made, or is it just random junk that gets thrown into some kinda compactor machine that spits out "Material A/B/C"?

I like the teamwork idea, though.


My added suggestion would be to make it a slight competition, to where whoever produces/gathers the most stuff gets a slight bonus, or first dibs on whatever is made. Or maybe rate the gatherer on the rate and rarity of the items he/she finds, and rate the crafter on the speed and quality they produce.

It'd make more sense if this played into the villages as well. Not the cities necessarily, but the towns located in the maps in 2.0 with small guild houses.

Actually, I'd like to see exp bonus for gatherers and crafters pairing up in teams. A levequest where a Botanist supplies wood for the Carpenter to craft. But there's too many variables to make this work feasibly in the constraints of a levequest, really.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

But there's too many variables to make this work feasibly in the constraints of a levequest, really.

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Any type of group crafting/gathering event would have to be built up from the ground.

But please let it be more interesting than Hamlet is...

Hell I think Hamlet could be used to introduce a more interesting gatherer/crafter dynamic. Keep them out of harms way for starts, let the gatherers get actual materials that go into a "Pool" that the crafters can them use to give your party members uber buffs.

Let's say if a Botanist brings down a HQ Rosewood log, and a miner brings down a Electrum nugget, those two items can be used for a few things.

1. Electrum Gathering tools: Increases the HQ rate of all DoL gathering attempts
2. Electrum Crafting tools: Massive boost to initial quality of crafts
3. Electrum Weapons: Gives meele occasional stun on hit and large DPS boost
4. Electrum Gear: Large boost to defensive stats and gradual HP regen
5. Electrum outfitting: Militia gains abillity to occasionly stun when attacked and slight HP regen

Give us a few things like that and make your gathering/crafting stats actually usefull for the hamlet and you bet your arse that I'd be more interested in it.

Some gd ideas coming in :D

bump bump!

I could see this working....

I don't really like this idea, DoL/H are meant to be more of a solo thing. Its not like you just spam enter on either, unless you are stupid enough not to realize how much experience and everything you are missing out on.. especially with DoL being so easy you never miss while gathering and always knowing what you are going to get.

Well if we're on the premise of Crafters working on the products on the machines, once the gatherers have brought in the items, they could be tastked with feeding the raw materials into said machine at the correct times.

If items are fed into the machines correctly it can assist the crafter on a better item, or perhaps more room for error on the crafter side.

That way gatherers are still participating. and the crafter is focused on the machines running and the end product. Gatherers are focused on optaining and then infusing the raw materials.

Personally i'd like to see the gatherer's skill at placing raws into the machine give the crafter more room for error instead of a bonus to the end product. I belive this would make it more inclusive for everyone.

Great idea bro needs a little fine tuning but i think it would work really well for people who play as a main crafter

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Originally Posted by Skuller

Great idea bro needs a little fine tuning but i think it would work really well for people who play as a main crafter

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thanks bro :D yea y i posted it on here so peeps can post there own ideas maybe get a dev to pass it on and see if they can tune it up from what the player based comes up with.. :D

I really want to see DoH/L party play because it gets so frikkin boring soloing. This IS an mmo after all >.>