Island Sanctuary at Max Rank should give you something for Cosmic Exploration

If they are going to discontinue the Island Sanctuaries major updates, they should give you a reward for maxing it out, which could be used in the Cosmic Exploration.

Obviously, it wouldn't be anything that isn't cosmetic. Some thoughts on what it could be:

- Island Sanctuary inspired cosmetic skins for buildings.

- Unlocked Island Sanctuary landmarks for landmark spots.

- A small landmark thing in a unique spot separate from other landmarks, that could be toggled. Perhaps some kind of statue commemorating completion of the island sanctuary. It could also serve as a "trophy system" showing off various achievements from the game. Imagine if you could pick different statues displaying unique achievements.

I.e. Defeated an ultimate raid, so you get its statue in your statue spot. Completed Island Sanctuary. Completed the Bozja storyline. Beat Eurekas secret raid. Completed the Doman restoration. etc.


Things that are purely decorative, but would be an incentive to show off having your island sanctuary finished. ;3

No thanks. Island Sanctuary hasn't been good since the patch it got introduced, everything they ever added was more of the most boring side of the system.

Having it directly affect any other systems would be horrid.

They don't usually link prior expansion systems to the new ones. I doubt it's going to end up any different.

People misunderstanding my thread. I never said that it had to be something beneficial to the cosmic exploration. I just want that to have something cosmetic linked to the island sanctuary, for those who took the time to do it. Anyone can go back and complete it if they desire to. There would be nothing stopping you.

Would be cool to be acknowledged In the upcoming version if they basically aren’t going to update Island Sanctuary any longer. I want the progress I made to matter in some meaningful cosmetic way, though preferably optional. Y’all are just unable to grasp my point, and look silly In the process.

Personally, the only decent thing they could do to keep me invested beyond IS end/max would prolly have it give some passive gil (not via market board) but something like Doma enclave.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Would be cool to be acknowledged In the upcoming version if they basically aren’t going to update Island Sanctuary any longer. I want the progress I made to matter in some meaningful cosmetic way, though preferably optional. Y’all are just unable to grasp my point, and look silly In the process.

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We could make the same arguments about Eureka and Bozja. Where is the recognition in other content that I grinded all the way to level 60 in Eureka and to max rank in Bozja?

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

We could make the same arguments about Eureka and Bozja. Where is the recognition in other content that I grinded all the way to level 60 in Eureka and to max rank in Bozja?

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we technically got that in the form of glamour, mounts and emotes that we unlocked along the way. At best things that we can hope for is any returning NPC recognising us in some one off line if we did other stuff

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Originally Posted by Palin

we technically got that in the form of glamour, mounts and emotes that we unlocked along the way.

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We got mounts and glamour from Island Sanctuary too.

nah there's no point.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of spreadsheet sanctuary. It would've been cool if we could've moved and had a house there and kicked off the mammets so that we could've updated the island and made it truly our own but meh.

This is an awful idea. You never want to lock new content behind optional side content from old content. We already have this issue with Hildibrand and people hate it. HAving relics being locked behind a sidequest that started in ARR is absolutely shocking design. For mains and older characters it's fine. Once you bring newer players into the mix and alt characters it's a major pain. No thanks.

All i can say is the final quest reward for Island Sanctuary is garbage XD all that to rank 20 for nothing and we get just that "item" we can craft ourselves lmao

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Originally Posted by Rayne6665

All i can say is the final quest reward for Island Sanctuary is garbage XD all that to rank 20 for nothing and we get just that "item" we can craft ourselves lmao

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Yea. I was a bit underwhelmed. But also, not surprised, at all.

That is making assumption that Cosmic Exploration will be similar to Island Sanctuary, while it might be a lot more like Ishgard/Doma

I would like to see stuff loop back around into the these lifestyle contents, like a lot. By that I mean any and all of them, whenever it makes sense or a dev gets a cool idea. But in particular for Island Sanctuary I'd say please don't only add to the top, the island needs more content to surround it's base, besides the fact that if you added something to the top then new players would have a LONG way to get it lol. It's a huge tower of spread sheet content right now, it should be broadened whenever possible. Like if they add content in 7.0, don't just add to the top. Add trinkets and handles, or whatever, to the crafting tools so you can get new ways to engage with gathering ( I made a thread: here, some ideas were a chain for your spearfishing pole that after every X gatherings allowed you to gather via significant range, or small speed boost per gather, mammet backpack that would help gather with you, etc).. Take the Golden Saucer mini-games and tweak them into catching animal game. Add weekly logs of greater value (including EXP), so players can diversify their progress outside of just the spreadsheet (like catching animals is now a big boost to exp, sometimes animals drop items on capture, etc). Mammet tribe / leve like quests, or some sort of NPC habilitation / custom delivery stuff.

Lifestyle:
-Doma
-Ishgard
-Islands

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

We could make the same arguments about Eureka and Bozja. Where is the recognition in other content that I grinded all the way to level 60 in Eureka and to max rank in Bozja?

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You're not building a town in that content. There is no player driven progress in a constructed biome.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

You're not building a town in that content. There is no player driven progress in a constructed biome.

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Unlocking the different sections is slightly. But you've edited your post to reflect it anyway.

There is no guarantee that Cosmic Exploration will be personal progress, because it could be like the Firmament since it is going to be more social. It remains to be seen whether the progress even is something you only see on your character or whether everyone sees it like how the Firmament became.

So far it seems like we will get seasons similar to the Firmament, except instead of building different sections we visit different planets. Unless they make us progress through these seasons like Bozja and Eureka areas so that we can still experience them further into the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Asako

This is an awful idea. You never want to lock new content behind optional side content from old content. We already have this issue with Hildibrand and people hate it. HAving relics being locked behind a sidequest that started in ARR is absolutely shocking design. For mains and older characters it's fine. Once you bring newer players into the mix and alt characters it's a major pain. No thanks.

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OMG continuing to misread as ever. Your feedback is awful, and not at all what I am suggesting. I'm convinced people don't read on these forums. I just want some meaningful achievement bonus that reflects in the Space Exploration that is entirely OPTIONAL, and visual. Nothing that adds anything non cosmetic. Island Sanctuary is basically being abandoned in favor of a new better system, and it would be cool if all that hard work we put into it had some kind of bonus to reflect on the new content. It's not fair to abandon it, and not carry at least some kind of a thing over to Space Exploration.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Unlocking the different sections is slightly. But you've edited your post to reflect it anyway.

There is no guarantee that Cosmic Exploration will be personal progress, because it could be like the Firmament since it is going to be more social. It remains to be seen whether the progress even is something you only see on your character or whether everyone sees it like how the Firmament became.

So far it seems like we will get seasons similar to the Firmament, except instead of building different sections we visit different planets. Unless they make us progress through these seasons like Bozja and Eureka areas so that we can still experience them further into the expansion.

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I hope it's personal dictated growth but community dictated maximum growth. So when the content is fresh you can't hit rank 2 until the community busts that cap open, which will take substantial resources (like firmament did); however, YOUR zone is rank 1 until you complete the transition. If you're doing this content live, you'll transition as a community, if you're doing it late, you'll get the whole story smoothly and orderly.

There also might be phased sections too, if that's possible, such that we're all working together but my choices might not be yours- at least in specific areas. Little bit like how in WoW the farm is in the zone and is phased to you. Maybe for example we all work together to build a tavern but I choose to place Stevie Bevie instead of the community top pick McWonderCluck. You pick the Firmament Blacksmith and I pick Jeweler. Etc. Which could provide differences, as an.. RPG.. :O (to that expansion would be the 'easy' choice, but it might be neat if it was like to that expansion and any level 3 FATE zone).

I'd support it, just because that i consider intersecting gameplay elements to be a good idea. Having one thing such as island unlocking additional features or options in another mode, is a nice thing i'd say

Nah. I love IS but it should remain its own thing and not affect Cosmic Exploration, even cosmetically. We're rewarded more than enough for doing it.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Nah. I love IS but it should remain its own thing and not affect Cosmic Exploration, even cosmetically. We're rewarded more than enough for doing it.

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this makes me super depressed ugh, people just dont get it. :(

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

this makes me super depressed ugh, people just dont get it. :(

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We get it. We just don't agree. I'd rather someone not be made to feel bad in different content because they didn't do Island Sanctuary. Let us all have an equal chance at all the rewards associated and keep it associated with that content.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

We get it. We just don't agree. I'd rather someone not be made to feel bad in different content because they didn't do Island Sanctuary. Let us all have an equal chance at all the rewards associated and keep it associated with that content.

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I mean their point is they didn't say* that. They said, essentially, to continue providing content to Island sanctuary.

Not lock cosmic, or other content, behind sanctuary, but to provide sanctuary additional opportunities.

Really just boils down to "don't squadron the island please". Squadron as in abandon / let wither.

*Their title doesn't help their case though, the OP and title are a bit at odds. I also wouldn't recommend putting old content as a requirement for new, although SE does it all the time, but I would recommend not abandoning a content where opportunity makes sense.

Maybe something like a nice cameo from the Sanctuary and other restoration projects. But, the cosmetic features would not particularly interest me.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

OMG continuing to misread as ever. Your feedback is awful, and not at all what I am suggesting. I'm convinced people don't read on these forums. I just want some meaningful achievement bonus that reflects in the Space Exploration that is entirely OPTIONAL, and visual. Nothing that adds anything non cosmetic. Island Sanctuary is basically being abandoned in favor of a new better system, and it would be cool if all that hard work we put into it had some kind of bonus to reflect on the new content. It's not fair to abandon it, and not carry at least some kind of a thing over to Space Exploration.

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no. /10char

I want to unlock cosmic exploration where you load every mammet on the island into a rocket Kerbal-style, and then get to watch it fly up and explode.

From the little they talked about at Fanfest, it sounded like Cosmic Exploration is going to be a bit more like Firmament (I.e. more shared content than solo instances) so I'm not sure how this would work in practice.

IS is probably done, but it would be nice to get occasional updates to the cowrie shop. (Put crafter / gatherer XI and XII materia there, dev team. You know you want to)

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Originally Posted by HermitUK

From the little they talked about at Fanfest, it sounded like Cosmic Exploration is going to be a bit more like Firmament (I.e. more shared content than solo instances) so I'm not sure how this would work in practice.

IS is probably done, but it would be nice to get occasional updates to the cowrie shop. (Put crafter / gatherer XI and XII materia there, dev team. You know you want to)

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Yeah another Restoration-esque content sounds about right for this, possibly even with a new zone like Daidem. That being said wonder what gets accomplished if so, moon housing?

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

OMG continuing to misread as ever. Your feedback is awful, and not at all what I am suggesting. I'm convinced people don't read on these forums. I just want some meaningful achievement bonus that reflects in the Space Exploration that is entirely OPTIONAL, and visual. Nothing that adds anything non cosmetic. Island Sanctuary is basically being abandoned in favor of a new better system, and it would be cool if all that hard work we put into it had some kind of bonus to reflect on the new content. It's not fair to abandon it, and not carry at least some kind of a thing over to Space Exploration.

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So you want a reward tied to something from a previous quest chain. For someone that likes to flame others for not reading, you obviously missed my point. Locking stuff, optional or not behind something else is dumb, no matter how trivial you think it is. Your reward for putting the time and effort into your optional Island Sanctuary WAS your Island Sanctuary and the items you obtain in it. That is the reward you were working toward. Those mounts, glamours you got by getting to higher ranks are all yours because you put the time into getting it. Now you want more stuff in new content that has nothing to do with the old content just because you put your time into it.

That's like saying when I go to work and recieve my pay check I should recieve something bonus next month because I already worked last month and put time into it and want more than what I work for this month. Should we just give you everything for free at this point? Why even play the game, sure I played 17k hours, give me free stuff Mr. Yoshi.

Given you quote them saying optional and visual, we have seen this before on varying levels. Blue cane is most recent and probably more poorly received, however in context of housing... We see it all the time. You can get some cool decoration from content entirely unrelated to housing. There is a strong precedence for that.

I mean if it's a whole feature, I could see that ruffling a few feathers, but a cool decoration? That would be a real common Tuesday of a concept, one we see all the time.

Perhaps unique if it couldn't be traded, but if it was sellable or visually clearly island inspired deco...? Though again it honestly seems OPs primary issue is the island being abandoned. I personally would like to see a column of lifestyle content pillar through all the others (never abandoned always being fed into by others, always relevant). If SE doesn't want to make the island that, fine, but it's a concept I'd like.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I personally would like to see a column of lifestyle content pillar through all the others (never abandoned always being fed into by others, always relevant). If SE doesn't want to make the island that, fine, but it's a concept I'd like.

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I think the issue with that is that Square don't like locking new expansion content behind older expansion content if they can possibly help it. Bozja being locked behind Ivalice caused some grumbling, and I think it's part of the reason they put a cap on that whole storyline for now with the epilogues in the field notes, rather than carry it on. It's an infuriating stance at times (see also: NPCs stuck in side-content purgatory, never to interact with the MSQ), but I can see the logic behind it.

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Originally Posted by HermitUK

I think the issue with that is that Square don't like locking new expansion content behind older expansion content if they can possibly help it. Bozja being locked behind Ivalice caused some grumbling, and I think it's part of the reason they put a cap on that whole storyline for now with the epilogues in the field notes, rather than carry it on. It's an infuriating stance at times (see also: NPCs stuck in side-content purgatory, never to interact with the MSQ), but I can see the logic behind it.

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Definitely a possible reason! I personally think if they could make the pillar the housing system itself, and feed the lifestyle contents into housing, would be the smoothest version of that. Start players off with a baby inn room, quite cheap, and go from there. Although MSQ itself, at least with info we have currently, is still the largest "do they really care?" lol.

"I wont let players be forced to work on any content longer than expansion, except for the MSQ- that baby will be 400 hours of consecutive content and we keep adding to the top!!" :p

Something like this shouldn't be forced on people who don't wish to take part in island sanctuary. It was a grind just setting things up on a weekly basis to get max rank and all I ever do now is just set out the exploration team, feed/collect mats, buy and plant crops. Not really engaging content. Only thing I enjoyed was getting to catch Paissa's.