Stupid question about the miqote clans appearance

So I know very little people will care about this, but i need to ask to hear if im crazy or not.

I have a mooncat alt, i choose keeper of the moon bc of the fangs and zoomie eyes (if you have a cat you know what i mean)

But i have recently noticed that i think suncats have more(thicker/longer) lashes than mooncats. Anyone else think so too? I can show pics for reference:

suncat
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cso61h4lREo/maxresdefault.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/hZRpW2P.jpeg

https://imgur.com/hZRpW2P

Am i crazy? they seem darker and thicker right?
These two both have face 1 too.

Let me know what you think. :)

Bottom has better lashes.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Bottom has better lashes.

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Yea they are pretty, im just a sucker for dark long lashes xD especially since my characters always have dark hair. Im not saying mooncats have «Worse» lashes per say, im just wondering if others have noticed this too.

as a long term mooncat.. all I can say is that I look through my eyes... not at them

dont really spend a lot of time worrying about small details

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

Yea they are pretty, im just a sucker for dark long lashes xD especially since my characters always have dark hair. Im not saying mooncats have «Worse» lashes per say, im just wondering if others have noticed this too.

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hmm, I don't think they're shorter either. I think the colour contrast makes it seem that way though (maybe?)

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

hmm, I don't think they're shorter either. I think the colour contrast makes it seem that way though (maybe?)

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I thought about that and tried creating a character of each clan with same features and as close as possible skin Tone, and while the difference is not massive the sun lashes definintely look darker and longer imo. :/ annoying lol

Well, suncats spend time in the sun, and their settlements we've seen are in arid regions. The story I'm sticking to is longer lashes = more light and dust/sand blocking capability via evolutionary pressure.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

zoomie eyes (if you have a cat you know what i mean)

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You mean their normal eyes when it's dark out?

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Originally Posted by Limecat

Well, suncats spend time in the sun, and their settlements we've seen are in arid regions. The story I'm sticking to is longer lashes = more light and dust/sand blocking capability via evolutionary pressure.

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This is my head cannon and what I am going with as well.

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Originally Posted by Limecat

Well, suncats spend time in the sun, and their settlements we've seen are in arid regions. The story I'm sticking to is longer lashes = more light and dust/sand blocking capability via evolutionary pressure.

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There are two small tribal settlements (plus some integrated J tribe members in an Ala Mhigan town) made up of one tribe each in arid regions, but most sun cats in Eorzea are from Limsa. They have many tribes represented there and make up 20% of the city-state’s population while their presence in Ul’dah is so small it doesn’t even chart, oddly enough.

The thing about Miqo’te eyes that I’ve always thought is weird is that typically only small predators that hide in the grass and hunt during the night have slit pupils. Something about giving them a wider range of light vision and helping ambush things. All cats bigger than a house cat have normal, round pupils. FFXI’s Mithra didn’t have slit pupils either. But fantasy logic, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

You mean their normal eyes when it's dark out?

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Yea obviously? But have you never seen how a cat with zoomies get super big cute pupils? Thats what came to my mind atleast when i made a mooncat.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

There are two small tribal settlements (plus some integrated J tribe members in an Ala Mhigan town) made up of one tribe each in arid regions, but most sun cats in Eorzea are from Limsa. They have many tribes represented there and make up 20% of the city-state’s population while their presence in Ul’dah is so small it doesn’t even chart, oddly enough.

The thing about Miqo’te eyes that I’ve always thought is weird is that typically only small predators that hide in the grass and hunt during the night have slit pupils. Something about giving them a wider range of light vision and helping ambush things. All cats bigger than a house cat have normal, round pupils. FFXI’s Mithra didn’t have slit pupils either. But fantasy logic, I guess.

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cat pipils change and get big and small (slit) depending on light, like us humans. I dont think there is any cat type that have permanent slit pupils like you are talking about. Also the ones hunting in the night would have round pupils.

But my thought is that ffxiv wanted to really empasize that these cats are day cats and these are night cats with the pupils.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

cat pipils change and get big and small (slit) depending on light, like us humans. I dont think there is any cat type that have permanent slit pupils like you are talking about. Also the ones hunting in the night would have round pupils.

But my thought is that ffxiv wanted to really empasize that these cats are day cats and these are night cats with the pupils.

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I’m not saying that there are cats that have permanent slit pupils, I’m saying that anything bigger than a house cat doesn’t have the ability to have them at all.

Having the ability to constrict pupils like that is there for night creatures with sensitive eyes (animals like house cats constrict their pupils to a much greater degree than humans) to be able to see better in the daytime and the vertical slit also has something to do with helping ambush prey through the grass or something when they’re constricted like that when it’s light out. But I guess it only helps smaller things or only smaller things hunt like that because tigers and lions and any cat bigger than a bread basket doesn’t have them.

It doesn’t make much sense for omnivorous vaguely cat-ish beings the size of people (that don’t even have forward-facing cat ears!) to have vertical slit pupils. But this is Final Fantasy so bringing science into a fantasy game only takes you so far.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

Yea obviously? But have you never seen how a cat with zoomies get super big cute pupils? Thats what came to my mind atleast when i made a mooncat.

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Also when they're high out of their minds on catnip.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Also when they're high out of their minds on catnip.

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Yea its adorable

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

I’m not saying that there are cats that have permanent slit pupils, I’m saying that anything bigger than a house cat doesn’t have the ability to have them at all.

Having the ability to constrict pupils like that is there for night creatures with sensitive eyes (animals like house cats constrict their pupils to a much greater degree than humans) to be able to see better in the daytime and the vertical slit also has something to do with helping ambush prey through the grass or something when they’re constricted like that when it’s light out. But I guess it only helps smaller things or only smaller things hunt like that because tigers and lions and any cat bigger than a bread basket doesn’t have them.

It doesn’t make much sense for omnivorous vaguely cat-ish beings the size of people (that don’t even have forward-facing cat ears!) to have vertical slit pupils. But this is Final Fantasy so bringing science into a fantasy game only takes you so far.

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Ohh i never realized that big cats dont have them. Thats cool. Yea In that case the eyes on suncat dont really make sense but i still enjoy the eyes on both clans. As you said its final fantasy, it doesnt really bother me at all.

I have never noticed it before tbh and I have probably made more moon and sun cats than I dare to admit too over the years. I remember way back that Moon cats had larger boobs than the sun and also Hyur females had bigger depending on their face.

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I have never noticed it before tbh and I have probably made more moon and sun cats than I dare to admit too over the years. I remember way back that Moon cats had larger boobs than the sun and also Hyur females had bigger depending on their face.

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Ahh yes, the 1.0 character creator.
Good times.

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I have never noticed it before tbh and I have probably made more moon and sun cats than I dare to admit too over the years. I remember way back that Moon cats had larger boobs than the sun and also Hyur females had bigger depending on their face.

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This sounds great. I wish it was still like that tbh

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

This sounds great. I wish it was still like that tbh

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Haha I think people may kick off if Moons had larger boobs but maybe not I do not know! The boobs in 1.0 where too small though that is probably one of the only thing I do not miss about 1.0.

The Moon keepers also had longer tails which where nice as there was no tail slider and the CC was even more limited so what we have now is better, though I wish there where more options for everyone and little differences here and there. ^O^

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Also when they're high out of their minds on catnip.

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And also when they're trying to sucker you into something like Puss N Boots on the second Shrek Movie...

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

And also when they're trying to sucker you into something like Puss N Boots on the second Shrek Movie...

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Yea xD so cute