New Job: Viper

First new job will be called Viper, dual wielding melee DPS.

Role Melee DPS

Utilize Dual blades unique to the job

Starting location Ul'dah

Required class none

Starting level 80

Close range fighter that uses two one handed blades that can be combined to a single two-handed weapon to go with their attacks can call upon memories of ancient hunters to increase their power for a brief time (general summary)

https://youtu.be/295BgKlNcqM?si=yUiE76HEZwxA1NCQ

Next job to be revealed will be Ranged magical DPS will be revealed at the Tokyo fan festival

Awful name

Teledji Adeledji Predicted this back in ARR

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Awful name

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I feel like they could have workshopped that name to something better, but it's okay so far and just waiting to see how it actually plays.

Only thing I can say about it so far is that I am really not a fan of that Blue Aura

Two blades combining into one makes me think of Zidane. (Yes, I know, his daggers and glaives were separate weapons, not combining weapons. Still.)

The audience didn't seem super hyped about it. I think the general expectation was on Corsair and people were a wee bit disappointed with the reveal.

I'm... okay with it. I did want a dual sword job. Could have done without double saber mode but eh, I'll deal.

I was actually predicting almost this concept myself. I was thinking it would be similar to Zidane and Serge from Chrono Cross and was calling it "Swallowtail" in my head.

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Originally Posted by Palladiamors

The audience didn't seem super hyped about it. I think the general expectation was on Corsair and people were a wee bit disappointed with the reveal.

I'm... okay with it. I did want a dual sword job. Could have done without double saber mode but eh, I'll deal.

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The thing is, they said before that new jobs probably would be largely original concepts moving forward, so I'm not really sure why there's so much prediction leaning on preexisting concepts.

Guess we’ve found what the work experience interns were doing.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I was actually predicting almost this concept myself. I was thinking it would be similar to Zidane and Serge from Chrono Cross and was calling it "Swallowtail" in my head.



The thing is, they said before that new jobs probably would be largely original concepts moving forward, so I'm not really sure why there's so much prediction leaning on preexisting concepts.

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Largely does not equal all and there are still XI players who want to see their favorite jobs return. Call it wishful thinking.

Demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=295BgKlNcqM

Looks boring, sounds boring.

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Originally Posted by Palladiamors

Largely does not equal all and there are still XI players who want to see their favorite jobs return. Call it wishful thinking.

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I just mean that I've only seen predictions for things that are already established in Final Fantasy, Corsair, Green Mage, Pictomancer... all things that are one-off, but still rooted in the series. I've not seen much of anyone trying to think outside of the series.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I just mean that I've only seen predictions for things that are already established in Final Fantasy, Corsair, Green Mage, Pictomancer... all things that are one-off, but still rooted in the series. I've not seen much of anyone trying to think outside of the series.

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I mean... could you have guessed Viper? Or Reaper before? Or how sage turned out? Nothing in the other teaser hinted at the job dual wielding. So people resort to guessing the familiar, they saw a sword, they saw a guy on a ship.

I completely understand what you're saying but when you're not drawing on existing jobs and you're tossing out extremely vague hints people don't really have a lot to work with. You could have said Footman for the new job and had as much evidence to back it up.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I just mean that I've only seen predictions for things that are already established in Final Fantasy, Corsair, Green Mage, Pictomancer... all things that are one-off, but still rooted in the series. I've not seen much of anyone trying to think outside of the series.

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Personally was hoping something weapon master direction to the melee.
was not wrong, just didn't hope as much as other did.

I'm grateful as it's highly likely we won't get stuff that is already covered or part of the lore in other aspects.

though doesn't fully disprove picto/painter.
and the green mage ideas could just be story things rather than combat.

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Originally Posted by Palladiamors

I mean... could you have guessed Viper? Or Reaper before? Or how sage turned out? Nothing in the other teaser hinted at the job dual wielding. So people resort to guessing the familiar, they saw a sword, they saw a guy on a ship.

I completely understand what you're saying but when you're not drawing on existing jobs and you're tossing out extremely vague hints people don't really have a lot to work with. You could have said Footman for the new job and had as much evidence to back it up.

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I didn't guess the name, but I guessed the weapon correctly. Like I said before, I was guessing Serge from Chrono Cross, who uses a Swallow--a two-sided sword. Or something similar to Zidane who has two swords that combine into one.

A new limited job is coming out latter part of 7.x

Cool concept, garbage awful name. Will probly enjoy it since they said its a high weave high skill cap job, remains to be seen if the skill cap actually holds up tho considering summoner and reaper...

Name is weird but the job sounds very interesting, not the judge but close enough.

Sword were indeed hidden to avoid spoilers, only thing I find cheap in the trailer.
But I'm happy it's not corsair.

Well TMNT makes sense now, Leonardo dual-wields swords. Whats funny to me is Viper is...literally Anime Edward Kenway from AC4 with some added Darth Maul action. The whole hood being up throughout, Black Flag's theme played in my head.

Ngl I am a bit disappointed it wasn't Corsair, but I'm keeping an open mind.

Was hoping for pirate with a pistol, but I'll take it. A bit of a shame the swords are sheathed on the back and not on the hip like in the trailer, but that's personal taste.

In the demo, you notice he uses an ability that combines the swords in an attack, and then stays in that stance with them combined, instead of just going back to two swords. I'm interested in seeing how that plays into that blue aura speed buff.

I don't really understand why it needed the blue mode for it's burst window, instead of the 'glaive form' being it's burst. Cos of that, my expectations are low, and I expect it to be very similar to RPR, with dualwield being basic GCDs, glaive being SoulSlice/the AOE one/Gallows/Gibbet/Guillotine, and bluemode being Enshroud

I don't mind the name. It's new both to FF and to the 'classic RPG' archetypical nomenclatures, but it can grow with time. It's as specific as Gunbreaker, for example. The obvious acronym VIP sounds cool lol.

The trailer... er, they barely showed anything. The 1-2-3 combo and an enhanced hit of it. It's hard to be excited just with that... I thought that it would be cool if the job could switch sword stances at will, instead of being something like enshroud.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=295BgKlNcqM

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I don't mind the name. It's new both to FF and to the 'classic RPG' archetypical nomenclatures, but it can grow with time. It's as specific as Gunbreaker, for example. The obvious acronym VIP sounds cool lol.

The trailer... er, they barely showed anything. The 1-2-3 combo and an enhanced hit of it. It's hard to be excited just with that... I thought that it would be cool if the job could switch sword stances at will, instead of being something like enshroud.

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All of the teasers are very basic. Dancer's only showed off its 1-2 and 3-4, not even Standard Step was revealed then nevermind, it was its 1-2 and 3-4 and Standard. We'll get more hints when the Benchmark drops, and then a more telling showcase during the job actions trailer.

I wanted a neat sword + pistol job, not brainlet ninja that plays like reaper.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

All of the teasers are very basic. Dancer's only showed off its 1-2 and 3-4, not even Standard Step was revealed then nevermind, it was its 1-2 and 3-4 and Standard. We'll get more hints when the Benchmark drops, and then a more telling showcase during the job actions trailer.

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Yeah, I know... but since this is an actually brand new XIV job, I feel they should've included one 'big hit' from the repertoire to enhance the hype. Usually we are already excited just for the fact that it's a classic FF job, and not the case this time.

One thing for sure is that dual-wielding swords is a bit of a letdown for me, because we have already a lot of this weapon silhouette, and even a big chunk of Ninja weapons already looks like shortswords. I hoped for a different offhand, like a whip... But that impression can change depending on how much the other sword mode is played upon.

Looked pretty unfinished.

Hopefully they will show more on it before DT launches.

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

Cool concept, garbage awful name. Will probly enjoy it since they said its a high weave high skill cap job, remains to be seen if the skill cap actually holds up tho considering summoner and reaper...

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They said the same about Reaper too.

Nice reveal.

Looks fun - But not enough to deter me away from doing MSQ with Reaper, given I'd need to go from 80-90.

So I'm starting with either Reaper, or we'll see how the next new class looks.

I am feeling conflicted…i mean….it’s basically what Ninja should’ve been no?

This is hardly new to me & more like a rushed job

BTW, may as well add the Job Trailer to the OG comment. Can Find them on YouTube along the various language Updated Trailers.

But here, for those who don't want to dog through The Keynote.

https://youtu.be/295BgKlNcqM?si=yUiE76HEZwxA1NCQ

I predict a wave of "Kiritos" in the future...

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Yeah, I know... but since this is an actually brand new XIV job, I feel they should've included one 'big hit' from the repertoire to enhance the hype. Usually we are already excited just for the fact that it's a classic FF job, and not the case this time.

One thing for sure is that dual-wielding swords is a bit of a letdown for me, because we have already a lot of this weapon silhouette, and even a big chunk of Ninja weapons already looks like shortswords. I hoped for a different offhand, like a whip... But that impression can change depending on how much the other sword mode is played upon.

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I'dve made the same argument for Sage's teaser last time since it was basically an entirely new concept, but that was fairly boring as well. Though that's pretty accurate to how Sage turned out unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

BTW, may as well add the Job Trailer to the OG comment. Can Find them on YouTube along the various language Updated Trailers.

But here, for those who don't want to dog through The Keynote.

https://youtu.be/295BgKlNcqM?si=yUiE76HEZwxA1NCQ

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Indeed Done

I've always been a fan of using dual swords in games, especially Elden Ring so I'm huffing maximum copium right now and hoping this job won't just have a straight up copy of Enshroud.

also "technically demanding" in their own words lmao. we'll see how that actually pans out when the media tour comes around next year.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Looked pretty unfinished.

Hopefully they will show more on it before DT launches.

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I don't know how you can say it's unfinished when we have only seen a small amount of actions.

Regardless though, the next time we will see anything new will be in the bench mark, you can often see a new action in there and after that, the job action trailer for Dawntrail, which will show alot more.

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Originally Posted by VentVanitas

I've always been a fan of using dual swords in games, especially Elden Ring so I'm huffing maximum copium right now and hoping this job won't just have a straight up copy of Enshroud[...]

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They'll probably have something that's taken away from DRG, considering DRG rework upcoming in Yawntrail lmao.

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

Well TMNT makes sense now, Leonardo dual-wields swords.

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They said for the caster job "that [Yoshi-P] dropped a hint about at Las Vegas FanFest" we have to wait until Tokyo. The TMNT shirt is still about the caster job.

Can’t wait for my new builder spender job that allows you to twinblade once per minute based on your gauge but you also have a damage buff at 2 minutes that allows for a more in depth twinblade phase and also have a bunch of unconnected oGCD’s you just use inside your self buff, maybe they will even spice it up with a 2 minute oGCD that gives you 50 gauge

Truly revolutionary design