Never release previous Feast t100 rewards please

Their exclusivity is what made it good and prestigious. If anyone can earn it then those rewards will become meaningless.

Hi, former Top 100 (Feast S19 Light) here, uhh... what exactly is the reason you posted this? Who are you exactly? Or is this your main?

Yoshi P said plenty of times he won't and even if there are various ways to keep the prestige of owning the original.

Yes it shouldn't be a free 1:1 handout, but even stubborn idiots like me realize there can be a middle ground.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Hi, former Top 100 (Feast S19 Light) here, uhh... what exactly is the reason you posted this? Who are you exactly? Or is this your main?

Yoshi P said plenty of times he won't and even if there are various ways to keep the prestige of owning the original.

Yes it shouldn't be a free 1:1 handout, but even stubborn idiots like me realize there can be a middle ground.

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Just stating my opinion, since everyone on this subforum keeps crying about releasing previous t100 rewards again and again, it's that simple.

And middle ground ? Hmm ? There is no middle ground really, it's people who can play and people who can't play, and the people who can't play always blame wintrading and botting, so why exactly do they need the rewards ?

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Just stating my opinion, since everyone on this subforum keeps crying about releasing previous t100 rewards again and again, it's that simple.

And middle ground ? Hmm ? There is no middle ground really, it's people who can play and people who can't play, and the people who can't play always blame wintrading and botting, so why exactly do they need the rewards ?

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The middleground would be differentiating the original 100 per DC from replicas using a variety of methods, such as using a different item quality (blue, purple or maybe gold), calling the rereleased items "replica" or adding the Rank# of the respective player in the name of items. This would at least work well with equipment, but would be difficult with mounts.

The method of how to obtain them as replicas is also open-ended, so further suggestions are welcome.

Playing devil's advocate, I can 100% see why the items are desirable. My main and only issue would be rereleasing them as carbon copies so you couldnt tell a genuine top 100 player apart from someone using the copy. Additionally I think items of such demand shouldn't be TOO easy to obtain either, so not moogle tomestone event for instance.

Having option to buy recolors of them with Commendation Crystals or by reaching Top 100 in CC might be nice.

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Originally Posted by ThaCa

Having option to buy recolors of them with Commendation Crystals or by reaching Top 100 in CC might be nice.

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Agreed. Personally I think they need to revise that system though. I think 1 Crystal only on Diamond is kinda nothing and worse below when you neee 2 for just a weapon augmentation.

Maybe by making them like actual Wolf Collars 2.0 would be nice.

NGL I would dig a version of my armour with a royal blue dyed mantle. or with white + gold metal.

See a person with top 100 feast reward
"oh, a win trader"

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Originally Posted by Eastwall

See a person with top 100 feast reward
"oh, a win trader"

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Room temperature IQ opinion but ok.

I have top 100 rewards and if more people can actually enjoy them, I hope they do someday.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

The middleground would be differentiating the original 100 per DC from replicas using a variety of methods, such as using a different item quality (blue, purple or maybe gold), calling the rereleased items "replica" or adding the Rank# of the respective player in the name of items. This would at least work well with equipment, but would be difficult with mounts.

The method of how to obtain them as replicas is also open-ended, so further suggestions are welcome.

Playing devil's advocate, I can 100% see why the items are desirable. My main and only issue would be rereleasing them as carbon copies so you couldnt tell a genuine top 100 player apart from someone using the copy. Additionally I think items of such demand shouldn't be TOO easy to obtain either, so not moogle tomestone event for instance.

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Why is a middle ground needed at all ? If I see a dreadnaught, I know it's 90% likely going to be good PvP player, and 10% someone who just paid for a boost. Whereas the people in this subforum, some of whom have literally posted in this thread, are going to think "hmm ? dreadnaught ? 90% hacker/cheater/booster, 10% legit" because they're jealous.

Now you want a replica dreadnaught to be given to these people ? After they think it's just from hacking ? Why exactly do they need it, it's just from hacking after all, surely these people don't actually need it.

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Why is a middle ground needed at all ? If I see a dreadnaught, I know it's 90% likely going to be good PvP player, and 10% someone who just paid for a boost. Whereas the people in this subforum, some of whom have literally posted in this thread, are going to think "hmm ? dreadnaught ? 90% hacker/cheater/booster, 10% legit" because they're jealous.

Now you want a replica dreadnaught to be given to these people ? After they think it's just from hacking ? Why exactly do they need it, it's just from hacking after all, surely these people don't actually need it.

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Because the "top 100 = wintrader/cheater" response is parroted mass hysteria that generally circulates in spaces like the forums consisting of large bodies of players who don't actually know bettere whereas the playerbase at large is generally a lot more positive when you tell them what the ownership of thoae rewards means.

I am thinking about the playerbase at large who isn't spewing vitriol ad nauseam compared to the forum dwellers. More people would benefit from having additional reward structures for playing even if it means taking old Top 100 stuff or recolours of it THAT ARENT having a residence and a bed on a forum page that its a net positive, even if toxic copypasta spammers were to get access as well.

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Why is a middle ground needed at all ? If I see a dreadnaught, I know it's 90% likely going to be good PvP player, and 10% someone who just paid for a boost. Whereas the people in this subforum, some of whom have literally posted in this thread, are going to think "hmm ? dreadnaught ? 90% hacker/cheater/booster, 10% legit" because they're jealous.

Now you want a replica dreadnaught to be given to these people ? After they think it's just from hacking ? Why exactly do they need it, it's just from hacking after all, surely these people don't actually need it.

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Honest question, I'm actually curious, do you enjoy seeing people being jealous? Or feeling superior? I'm not quite certain to see the point behind that comment otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Honest question, I'm actually curious, do you enjoy seeing people being jealous? Or feeling superior? I'm not quite certain to see the point behind that comment otherwise.

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Bet 200gil they are masochist and don't actually have any of that stuff and want to remain jealous instead.

Anytime in any game this pops up I just always think to myself.

Everyone funded the development of w/e rewards with them buying the game + subbing, so they should be able to enjoy the stuff made from that money just as equally.

I got a bunch of transmogs in WoW for example you can't get anymore, I'd happily support them bringing those back for everyone else to enjoy, no need to be selfish.

Make it a timed exclusive at best, then let everyone get it after x amount of time using currency that's tied to that activity, just straight up petty to want otherwise, and I don't even care about those ugly ass old pvp rewards myself.

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Originally Posted by Llynethil

Anytime in any game this pops up I just always think to myself.

Everyone funded the development of w/e rewards with them buying the game + subbing, so they should be able to enjoy the stuff made from that money just as equally.

I got a bunch of transmogs in WoW for example you can't get anymore, I'd happily support them bringing those back for everyone else to enjoy, no need to be selfish.

Make it a timed exclusive at best, then let everyone get it after x amount of time using currency that's tied to that activity, just straight up petty to want otherwise, and I don't even care about those ugly ass old pvp rewards myself.

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Ehhhh... I see where you are coming from with this, but "funding the development by paying sub / buying stuff from mogstation" does not give you a "right" to have access to rewards, that's a privilege at best. What they eventually do with the exclusivity of rewards is for each game's development team to decide. But so far I agree, assuming you at least have to do relevant content that is at least SIMILAR to the original obtaining method, I'd be 100% on board if someone were to get a copy of my armour.

No, release them all.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

No, release them all.

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Sure, under which obtainment method?

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Sure, under which obtainment method?

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I would say perhaps behind the Series? Maybe add in a new currency that you get at the later stages off the pass that over time can be exchanged for a reward. Not much of a PVP'er so I cannot really comment on the system much haha, and I am in no way saying they should make it easy. It should be something people need to work for and feel proud of getting by the end, but as said elsewhere a middle ground can be found and should be. Whilst I like rare cosmetics and stuff, I am against them being unobtainable via time gates and stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

I would say perhaps behind the Series? Maybe add in a new currency that you get at the later stages off the pass that over time can be exchanged for a reward. Not much of a PVP'er so I cannot really comment on the system much haha, and I am in no way saying they should make it easy. It should be something people need to work for and feel proud of getting by the end, but as said elsewhere a middle ground can be found and should be. Whilst I like rare cosmetics and stuff, I am against them being unobtainable via time gates and stuff like that.

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Can see why you say Series, but I'd be hesitant. The series definitely could use some upgrade or at BARE MINIMUM the crystal vendor needs more / better items or an update of such (hello Archfiend armour), however I personally at least would say it is better placed in Ranked - however unlike the meme that is the Augmented Hellhound series, I'd say make a PROPER currency that is available on ALL tiers and those that climb tiers gain more currency (and maybe also make it give some small amount of currency per match won...? you know, like overwatch ranked points).

I'd be game for more access, but hey might as well encourage people to play Ranked since it is originally from Ranked.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Can see why you say Series, but I'd be hesitant. The series definitely could use some upgrade or at BARE MINIMUM the crystal vendor needs more / better items or an update of such (hello Archfiend armour), however I personally at least would say it is better placed in Ranked - however unlike the meme that is the Augmented Hellhound series, I'd say make a PROPER currency that is available on ALL tiers and those that climb tiers gain more currency (and maybe also make it give some small amount of currency per match won...? you know, like overwatch ranked points).

I'd be game for more access, but hey might as well encourage people to play Ranked since it is originally from Ranked.

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That sounds very fair to me. Heck, I have never touched Rank but if they did somthing like that I would be tempted to give it a try haha.

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Originally Posted by Valence

do you enjoy seeing people being jealous? Or feeling superior?

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Yes, it's pretty funny when you tell them they need to run Void Ark 100 times for the Hellhound mount.

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Originally Posted by Llynethil

so they should be able to enjoy the stuff made from that money just as equally.

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PvP isn't about equality. Someone wins, someone loses.

so we are all just gonna pretend false monarchy was not a grey hound reskin? lol k

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Room temperature IQ opinion but ok.

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Except even back then during season 2, you can pay 900 to get to top 100 and hold the position. And a partial refund is available if it fails to deliver. Your response just means you are just too idealistic as well.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

I would say perhaps behind the Series? Maybe add in a new currency that you get at the later stages off the pass that over time can be exchanged for a reward. Not much of a PVP'er so I cannot really comment on the system much haha, and I am in no way saying they should make it easy. It should be something people need to work for and feel proud of getting by the end, but as said elsewhere a middle ground can be found and should be. Whilst I like rare cosmetics and stuff, I am against them being unobtainable via time gates and stuff like that.

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You ain't even PvPing why exactly do you feel entitled to the rewards ? It ain't yours, sorry to say.

Putting it behind the Series is the worst solution, working for a reward =/= being a good player. The Dreadnaught is a sign of a good player, the augmented hellhound weapons ain't because any bad player can get to Diamond by just grinding it out, in fact they can even get to Crystal if they get on a lucky streak and get carried by a top player who's climbing. At least it's slightly harder to get t100 as a bad player.

Sorry to say, but some rewards should remain exclusive and be the sign of a good player, Capiche ?

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Originally Posted by Eastwall

Except even back then during season 2, you can pay 900 to get to top 100 and hold the position. And a partial refund is available if it fails to deliver. Your response just means you are just too idealistic as well.

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So ? Anyone who is good at PvP don't need to worry about wintrading or cheating, you can get to top 100 very easily as long as you are good. People who complain that they can't get t100 because of wintrading/cheating is actually outing themselves to be bad, very sorry to say ^^

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

So ? Anyone who is good at PvP don't need to worry about wintrading or cheating, you can get to top 100 very easily as long as you are good. People who complain that they can't get t100 because of wintrading/cheating is actually outing themselves to be bad, very sorry to say ^^

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Nice misdirection. The point is about the prestige of these item. Not if someone is good at pvp or not. If it can be easily obtained through rmt, l see nothing prestigious about them. Might as well make an alternative way that's very grindy to get them

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Originally Posted by Eastwall

Nice misdirection. The point is about the prestige of these item. Not if someone is good at pvp or not. If it can be easily obtained through rmt, l see nothing prestigious about them. Might as well make an alternative way that's very grindy to get them

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And Ultimates, The Necromancer, are also bought as well, your point ? Let's just punish the tens of thousands of dedicated good players in PvE and PvP because a few dozen RMT'd ?

Nothing is holy so neither should they, its long overdue...

I think it is good that a MMORPG has very rare items, that possibly cant be obtained anymore. And there are items outside the PvP realm, that are like that, some even older than FFXIV ARR. I don't see why we should have double standards. "Give me legacy chocobo and the tattoo, okay? :D"

Truth is most people didn't like PvP, some seasonal rewards could be obtained by being gold tier, which was very very easy (still nobody cared to get it, which was a 1 day job). While other seasons were very competetive. You equalize all of that if you want to make them available again, for a potential grinding activity that a bot could do. Just so that some collectionists or roleplayers are happy?

The game already became very casual friendly, so friendly that almost nothing has value anymore. But as long as people still complain about it, they care about it, SE should worry when people dont care anymore and leave the game.

Yeah don’t release previous top 100 rewards when some of the top 100 are cheaters anyway. Some are even proud to say they cheat. There is no prestige in it. Some didn’t even truly earn it. So yeah Yoshi please add previous top 100 rewards to the series. Ranked pvp is a joke.

To the very small few who actually work hard to earn top 100 I salute you.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

Yeah don’t release previous top 100 rewards when some of the top 100 are cheaters anyway. Some are even proud to say they cheat. There is no prestige in it. Some didn’t even truly earn it. So yeah Yoshi please add previous top 100 rewards to the series. Ranked pvp is a joke.

To the very small few who actually work hard to earn top 100 I salute you.

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"Some are even proud to say they cheat" - citation needed.

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Actually I think the augmented Hellhound weapons should be t100 exclusive only too so people like you can cry more.

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Now now, no point in suggesting things out of spite. I'd suggest the opposite actually, I think they should've taken the original Wolf Collar distribution as an example with some tweaks to the upper end and make it a Tier-based reward. If not Augmented Hellhound, other items to encourage participation in even the lowest ranks would be beneficial for the queue economy.

The troll is strong with this one, or is it entitlement ? Looking forward to see some of the old feast armors released in a different color scheme, the SB ones might as well not exist anymore.

Reinhardt's solutions are all good.

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Originally Posted by Teno

The troll is strong with this one, or is it entitlement ? Looking forward to see some of the old feast armors released in a different color scheme, the SB ones might as well not exist anymore.

Reinhardt's solutions are all good.

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Seems to me like the entitled ones are the ones crying about getting past rewards that they ain't good enough to get ^^

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Seems to me like the entitled ones are the ones crying about getting past rewards that they ain't good enough to get ^^

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bold of you to assume that theres skill in pvp lol but i agree with teno here, maybe stop stirring the pot dude... or else you may eventually have to taste the spoon.

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Seems to me like the entitled ones are the ones crying about getting past rewards that they ain't good enough to get ^^

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My friend, you're done cooking, the pot needs no more stirring.

Here are people who are in fact good enough to qualify as Top 100 and are in favour of a rerelease with a condition or two applied. Your argument, regardless of intent, holds no water.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

My friend, you're done cooking, the pot needs no more stirring.

Here are people who are in fact good enough to qualify as Top 100 and are in favour of a rerelease with a condition or two applied. Your argument, regardless of intent, holds no water.

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And I argue the opposite with multiple CC/Feast t100s, it should never be rereleased.

thank u, next

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

And I argue the opposite with multiple CC/Feast t100s, it should never be rereleased.

thank u, next

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Which characters, which seasons? Can you provide screenshots of the rewards of your characters ingame?

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Which characters, which seasons? Can you provide screenshots of the rewards of your characters ingame?

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I ain't about to tell you my main, tell me where to go in FF14 where you can mount and I'll take a screenshot if you're not happy with this.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...7466/image.png

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

bold of you to assume that theres skill in pvp lol

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" Someone achieved something that I can't achieve, but that doesn't take skill ! "

Explain again why you deserve previous t100 rewards ?

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

I ain't about to tell you my main, tell me where to go in FF14 where you can mount and I'll take a screenshot if you're not happy with this.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...7466/image.png

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Im happy with the screenshots if you can show me what other rewards you have obtained. Your HUD layout is significant enough to tell they are screenshots made by you so dw no need to spoil your main.

I just want to know if you have more than just a Dreadnought. Main items of interest, since we are on topic, are Feast T100 rewards. Crystalline Conflict Top 100 rewards are not what I care for as they aren't part of the topic.

Btw, no hard feelings, I just wanted to know if you were speaking from actually having them or if you spoke more from a heated moment.

They could just add all of them for 100 wolf collar each. Imagine making people play pvp again.

They could also add the legacy choco + tattoo as 25k+ achievement pts reward or something else very time consuming to work towards