All Worlds Maintenance (Mar. 28) Patch 1.16a

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At the following time, we will be performing maintenance on FINAL FANTASY XIV corresponding to the upcoming release of patch 1.16a. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XIV will be unavailable.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.

* Clients will update automatically upon launch after release of the patch.

* Patch download rates may vary depending on server congestion.

* Comprehensive patch notes will be posted separately on the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM on the day of the patch release.

[Date & Time]
Mar. 28, 2011 from 21:00 to 23:00 (GMT)

* The completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XIV

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Link: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...b145d874d4b94b

Methinks this is going to be a small one judging by the 'a' suffix. Looking forward to seeing what they have in-store for us :)

You mean small things like this ;)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...5513#post55513

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

You mean small things like this ;)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...5513#post55513

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Hahah thanks can't believe i missed that.

Small addition but a big change I think. System was a bit cumbersome for me. Once I got used to it though it really does come in handy.

I'm a little disappointed with what will be in the patch, but something is better than nothing I guess. Can't wait for 1.17 tho. Hopefully that will be a big one.

The way I'm envisioning the x.xxa, x.xxb patches(basically whatever letter follows the number of the monthly patch) is that they're more "clean up" patches than anything else, which isn't a bad thing as you know, stuff happens.

I remember reading that Yoshi and his crew were going to be adding more quests every single patch. Does that include these "sub patches" as well? I think that could be problematic from a creative standpoint, but I dunno.

I suspect the following week we will see 1.17 and thats what most of us are waiting for as for as new additions to come for a patch

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

The way I'm envisioning the x.xxa, x.xxb patches(basically whatever letter follows the number of the monthly patch) is that they're more "clean up" patches than anything else, which isn't a bad thing as you know, stuff happens.

I remember reading that Yoshi and his crew were going to be adding more quests every single patch. Does that include these "sub patches" as well? I think that could be problematic from a creative standpoint, but I dunno.

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I hope so. this way i can just go out there and do quest~ with/without friends xD

I know if it lets you go back the the way subtargeting was pre patch, my LS will have one happy lalafell.

FIX DoM NOWWWWW!!! please...

It's only a couple of changes listed, but they're good ones.

The targeting mode fix is a nice one I'll say. I'm wondering if they'll also ninja fix the party member click to cure issue that arose after the last patch.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

FIX DoM NOWWWWW!!! please...

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You have to explain what's wrong with it as I play DoM and the class isn't any more broken than DoW.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

You have to explain what's wrong with it as I play DoM and the class isn't any more broken than DoW.

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- DoM can't play as a nuker, we're only healers

- Black Mage/White Mage should be split off or let the player choose their way to play black or white mage

- magic animations need fixing

- Ancient Magics are useless, lack of animation

- offensive magics are too weak

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- DoM can't play as a nuker, we're only healers

- Black Mage/White Mage should be split off or let the player choose their way to play black or white mage

- magic animations need fixing

- Ancient Magics are useless, lack of animation

- offensive magics are too weak

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This kinda thing comes in with a big patch, 1.17 or 1.18 maybe.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- DoM can't play as a nuker, we're only healers

- Black Mage/White Mage should be split off or let the player choose their way to play black or white mage

- magic animations need fixing

- Ancient Magics are useless, lack of animation

- offensive magics are too weak

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That's about it. Sadly.

Don't forget broken spells like Purge1/2 that do not work/do not cast when used in sub-target but get a full timer reset anyway.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- DoM can't play as a nuker, we're only healers

- Black Mage/White Mage should be split off or let the player choose their way to play black or white mage

- magic animations need fixing

- Ancient Magics are useless, lack of animation

- offensive magics are too weak

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Oh God, you can't be serious, you must be joking. I hope you are. Anyway I find most offensive magics to be more powerful than physical attacks.

Also this is the main reason why I didn't want the FFXIV severs to come back up anytime soon, because if they did people will start complaining and wanting stuff that they know that's on the way, but are too impatient to wait for it.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- DoM can't play as a nuker, we're only healers

- Black Mage/White Mage should be split off or let the player choose their way to play black or white mage

- magic animations need fixing

- Ancient Magics are useless, lack of animation

- offensive magics are too weak

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/agree with 3rd and 4th points.

1st point is a function of 5th point. If your 5th point is addressed in a meaningful way than you can be more than just a healer and the 1st point corrects itself.

2nd point is debatable. I'm all for that kind of specialization but it can be said that it wouldn't be necessary if the nukes were improved to make that choice of "spec" viable. If you could viably personalize your character into a WHM style layout or a BLM style layout and do it effectively than creating an actual BLM or WHM designation would be a somewhat pointless exercise. The hope I suppose is that by making an actual BLM or WHM that will, by extension, strengthen the WHM spells and BLM spells respectively thus making full and robust what is now average or worse at best as the combined CON class. If you just made the spells themselves full and robust like they ought to be you could then do w/e you wanted to 'usefully'.

You could argue the weakness magics. THM can solo the roaming NMs, as has been proven =)

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- DoM can't play as a nuker, we're only healers
- offensive magics are too weak

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I'm THM50 and actually ranking up CON (r44 atm). I'm not playing healing style and my nukes are pretty decent (but I like more debuffing as THM). C'mon, play the game the way you want to, I can do it so why don't you?

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- Black Mage/White Mage should be split off or let the player choose their way to play black or white mage

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You do understand the Armoury System, don't you? I mean, equip "Black Mage" spells in order to play as a Black Mage or "White Mage" in order to play as a White Mage... Once more, develop your character and play the way you want to.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- magic animations need fixing

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Agree.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

- Ancient Magics are useless, lack of animation

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FFXIV AMs are not FFXI AMs (atm at least). I guess they are useless for leves rushing / behests and things like that, but maybe you could find them useful at NM fights. On the other hand, I'm not telling that they are awesome, that's for sure.
I agree on the lack of animation part, though.

and.... Protect and Shell have no effect since the November patch.... if you noticed it

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Originally Posted by Umo

I'm THM50 and actually ranking up CON (r44 atm). I'm not playing healing style and my nukes are pretty decent (but I like more debuffing as THM). C'mon, play the game the way you want to, I can do it so why don't you?


You do understand the Armoury System, don't you? I mean, equip "Black Mage" spells in order to play as a Black Mage or "White Mage" in order to play as a White Mage... Once more, develop your character and play the way you want to.


Agree.


FFXIV AMs are not FFXI AMs (atm at least). I guess they are useless for leves rushing / behests and things like that, but maybe you could find them useful at NM fightings. On the other hand, I'm not telling that they are awesome, that's for sure.
I agree on the lack of animation part.

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Ya in respect of using AM's during NM fights you certainly could but I can think of better ways to lose 100MP (like randomly clicking all my other spells for no apparent reason). I'd waste the time using them at half what they cost now and sometimes do when I accidentally click spiritbind... not worth more than that.

Nice thread derail, guys.

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Nice thread derail, guys.

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That one was too easy. Wasn't even much of a segue

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Nice thread derail, guys.

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+1 Didn't realise this was the great magic debate thread.

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Originally Posted by Sinzfeldt

+1 Didn't realise this was the great magic debate thread.

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It is. And it's even better than that because with that title you don't see it coming.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

It is. And it's even better than that because with that title you don't see it coming.

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Yeah great isn't it, i get to troll and i wasn't even trying!

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Originally Posted by Sinzfeldt

Yeah great isn't it, i get to troll and i wasn't even trying!

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Ya... Zero effort trolling certainly is preferable.

I think that was a typo, we are already on patch 1.16 lol. they might have meant 1.17a

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Originally Posted by Evangela

and.... Protect and Shell have no effect since the November patch.... if you noticed it

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Post your parse data, please.

They do have an effect, it's just not going to completely negate damage like people feel it should. A community rep I believe commented on it that it's more of a discussion rather than bug as Yoshida commented that they just need to tweak calculations but it isn't broken.

I can't believe anyone mentioned the exp, sp gain in sidequests monsters :D

That is a huge fix and I remember so many people raging about it << where are they now? lol

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Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

I can't believe anyone mentioned the exp, sp gain in sidequests monsters :D

That is a huge fix and I remember so many people raging about it << where are they now? lol

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Probably rage quit because they couldn't quest grind to level lol. Its not that big of a fix since quest mobs aren't really much different from world spawns so the SP rates will still be very minimal.

On topic of shell again:

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On the topic of monster attribute changes and possibly player attribute changes, can you go more into detail on this? A lot of players feel everything is still a bit out of whack when it comes to the current attributes like dex barely affecting Accuracy or Shell barely reducing an Imps Blizzard damage.

Our Lead Battle Director, Matsui-san, is currently undergoing--they're basically going to change the equations for how stuff is calculated, all of these attributes. As they balance each of the classes with the new balance system, they're going to go through and check each action. And then see how that needs to be adjusted, and reassign each attribute as they go along.

Since it's going to be such a huge undertaking, it's going to happen in steps--it's not all going to change in the next patch, but over the next few patches we hope to change it. But we want to reassess everything, so it's not like we're going to be looking at one broken thing, we're going to be changing pretty much everything.

One of the reasons that you have some of the things not affecting something at all--like Shell not working on a lot of spells--is because right now a lot of the calculations for that stuff is too complex. Because it's so complex, it's difficult to balance. They want to make it simpler, not just so the players know what's going on--having to have some super program going on in the background to understand the calculations--but also so when the devs do balancing, it's easier for them to balance.

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It's not broken, it's just the calculations are making it hard to balance which is why it seems like it does nothing because by eyeballing you can't tell -- you need parse data and proper variables to test.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Probably rage quit because they couldn't quest grind to level lol. Its not that big of a fix since quest mobs aren't really much different from world spawns so the SP rates will still be very minimal.

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When I say it's a huge fix, it's not because it is hard to do - cuz it's not. It's cuz it was very requested and it's an important one ;P

btw they be more too this patch it may be added later before the update or on the update showing more fix they done this many time.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

btw they be more too this patch it may be added later before the update or on the update showing more fix they done this many time.

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Doubtful. It doesn't even matter though.

I predict that Companies will be added in 1.17, and the class system rehaul + first part of the combat system rehauls + the first instances as well as other content like beast tribes + the jumping mechanics + the gear affinity changes + the AH system will be implemented in 1.18 in May (which may be even called 1.19 or 1.2). All of these changes take more than a few months to develop, probably around three. Companies have been developed longer than the others, thus it can be released in 1.17. If we're lucky we may even see AH and the Jumping mechanics implemented before 1.18 but that sounds doubtful.

Basically, everything from the first & third letters of the producer should be implemented by May if no further delays happen. After that the rest of May, June and maybe July we will get smaller patches once again, with a larger batch in late-July/early August.

Hopefully after August they are done with rehauling since that takes a long time and a lot of resources and can start polishing the newly introduced and old systems instead with the huge team they have at their disposal. Another two-three months of polishing should get rid of most of the annoyances with the features as well as make them stand out. But I don't think they will be ready for PS3 release by August yet. Hopefully they delay it few months more at that point.

The PS3 "Beta" could very well start at around August though.

Looks like there will be a big build up and PS3 release/beta will come around 2.0

Disappointing but expected, on the other hand extremely happy as both fixes/adjustments I approve of and glad to see, Also with the Japan events I was not expecting a patch at all.

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Originally Posted by viion

Disappointing but expected, on the other hand extremely happy as both fixes/adjustments I approve of and glad to see, Also with the Japan events I was not expecting a patch at all.

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I'm sorry, but the patch you're looking for is in another castle....um I mean don't worry the "content" patch you're looking for (1.17) will probably come out the week after.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I'm sorry, but the patch you're looking for is in another castle....um I mean don't worry the "content" patch you're looking for (1.17) will probably come out the week after.

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Cheers :D wish it was in a castle, then i could go on an adventure to get it!!!

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Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

I can't believe anyone mentioned the exp, sp gain in sidequests monsters :D

That is a huge fix and I remember so many people raging about it << where are they now? lol

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they should do it that way from the start.... why the dev team have to trying to be different from other MMO all the time? and they have to fix their bad idea later anyway

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why the dev team have to trying to be different from other MMO all the time?

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Because their game is not like other MMO's.

They had to stop people from EXPing on the quest monsters. They may have even simply decided to look at what the players end up doing before going further. It is better to buff a system after confirming it works instead of nerfing it after confirming it doesn't work.