Really? They put Shadowkeeper on the Mog Station?

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This should be FREE, Square Enix. Why do they insist on putting popular mounts after popular mounts behind shit no one wants to do or make it $30? Who are the developers who made this so expensive? After Cruise Chaser why did you do this again?

Square Enix you better listen to your paying customers who paid $80 just to play Shadowwalker. You're going TOO FAR.

This is literally consumer abuse and I just filed a report to the Better Business Bureau, so get ready to receive another one-star review.

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Don't you guys have credit card ? :3

Oh, that one is sadge, I was hoping it'd be from blu raids. :(

This have went too far. Most new in-game mounts are so stupid and pale in comparison to this.

Now we know why p12s have that mount for reward.
Saving the best for the cashshop.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

This have went too far. Most new in-game mounts are so stupid and pale in comparison to this.

Now we know why p12s have that mount for reward.
Saving the best for the cashshop.

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Review them on the Better Business Bureau.

https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/el-segundo...stomer-reviews

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I am beyond livid that the Shadowkeeper mount is locked behind Mog Station. After I submitted ⌨️ a report in-game ️ the GMs told me to post on the Official Forums instead. Here's the thing ✅, Square Enix. Forward ⤴️ this thread to the developer who approved this and let them read this ⬇️ word by word.

You do not ❗ put cool mounts behind Mog Station , ever ⛔. Mog Station is for wealthy *♂️ casuals who play this game for ERP ⏰. Give them a crappy Cat mount or something but cool mounts do NOT belong to casuals. You're insulting all your customers by locking one of the most popular mounts this patch ️ behind a pay wall no one can afford. I feel cheated out of my $15 .

Next time ⏭️, cool mounts need to be available ✅ in content that raiders do.

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Originally Posted by Venari

After Cruise Chaser why did you do this again?

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Because Cruise Chase sold incredibly well and they found a new avenue to make mounts out of.

Is this the Shadow Wolf mount?

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Mog Station is for wealthy casuals who play this game for ERP

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i dont play for ERP and I have a load of the mogstation mounts..sooo I guess thats wrong...

Because money. People buy it so why not?

As a business man I approve...get the easy cash grabs from a literal endless supply of 1s and 0s.

As a consumer though...%*&# YOU. I refuse to buy cosmetics/mounts ever.

cruise chaser, shadowkeeper,.... dalamud?

oh no wait... dalamud would probably be 35 dollars

That thing is so fking ugly

Actually genuinely surprised that wasn't the Eden BLU reward.

It's an optional item. You want it, then buy it, if not, ignore it

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

Actually genuinely surprised that wasn't the Eden BLU reward.

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BLU has essentially been on life support since last expansion. They didn't even mention it until the very LL that announced its level update. I'd have been very surprised had this gone to BLU as a reward when they haven't put in a mount for it since Malboro. Which is a damn shame because it more or less makes Blue Mage DoA for most players instead of a potential revival.

BECAUSE THE SCARY MOGSTATION LADY SAID YOU WILL BUY IT AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

Just making sure I understand the issue:

Company A makes a product, and puts a price tag on it available as an additional, but unnecessary purchase.
Customer B, who thinks this product should be free, lodges a complaint to the BBB, claiming abuse.

What is the actual violation here/what are the actual grounds for SE to do a thing? Legit curious how or why this wouldn’t just be thrown out immediately.

Actually customer B thinks that the mount should only be for "raiders", so they can feel "speshul" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Imagine actually defending this.
The store grows more and more bold with higher quality exclusive items every time and the quality of in-game items in comparison seems to be going down.
It used to be just old event items and a few custom outfits.
There's no defense for this growing practice and I'm surprised I see people in this thread doing just that as if it's okay.

Players see cool potential mounts and square grabs that opportunity by the neck to then squeeze it dry.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

BLU has essentially been on life support since last expansion. They didn't even mention it until the very LL that announced its level update. I'd have been very surprised had this gone to BLU as a reward when they haven't put in a mount for it since Malboro. Which is a damn shame because it more or less makes Blue Mage DoA for most players instead of a potential revival.

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BLU content has always been released at the end of the expansion. So not sure why you'd expect earlier announcements.

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Imagine actually defending this.

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Then...dont buy it?

lmao
you wanted to play the game and work for that?? looool
nah just whip out credit card!!

it operates like a f2p game at this point. if you defend this you're a clown.

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Originally Posted by Britha

Imagine actually defending this.
The store grows more and more bold with higher quality exclusive items every time and the quality of in-game items in comparison seems to be going down.
It used to be just old event items and a few custom outfits.
There's no defense for this growing practice and I'm surprised I see people in this thread doing just that as if it's okay.

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but how will they fund ff16 commercials and forespoken's shitty sequel if they're not milking xiv's player base every month??? without our help, square enix will starve! please look forward to it!

It seems some people forgot this is $15 per month game on top of the full game price and expansions not some fucking free-to-play.

got to make up for losses when Final Fantasy XVI and VII Rebirth don't meet sales expectations. because we all know that Square Enix puts impossibly high demands on sales figures.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

got to make up for losses when Final Fantasy XVI and VII Rebirth don't meet sales expectations. because we all know that Square Enix puts impossibly high demands on sales figures.

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After playing the demo I dont think SE are going to have a problem with 16's sales figures.

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got to make up for losses when Final Fantasy XVI and VII Rebirth don't meet sales expectations

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Originally Posted by Britha

Imagine actually defending this.

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There is nothing illegal or even immoral with making a product and selling it for a price. Clearly there’s a market for it as they keep making more and more of them.

If you or others don’t want it, don’t buy it. If enough ppl don’t buy it, SE stops putting in orders for more mounts.

It’s not like this mount would ever end up for free anyway, as the dev costs to make it a mount in the first place comes from funds generated from sales on the mogshop.

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Originally Posted by Wingale

It's an optional item. You want it, then buy it, if not, ignore it

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It's about the standard they set for future endeavors like this. Just like how cd projekt red set the standard for triple a games releasing in broken unplayable states with cyberpunk 2077.

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It's about the standard they set for future endeavors like this. Just like how cd projekt red set the standard for triple a games releasing in broken unplayable states with cyberpunk 2077.

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I dont see how an OPTIONAL mount has any bearing on a games quality. FF 14 is quality gaming in every sense.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

There is nothing illegal or even immoral with making a product and selling it for a price. Clearly there’s a market for it as they keep making more and more of them.

If you or others don’t want it, don’t buy it. If enough ppl don’t buy it, SE stops putting in orders for more mounts.

It’s not like this mount would ever end up for free anyway, as the dev costs to make it a mount in the first place comes from funds generated from sales on the mogshop.

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You pay a monthly fee, as do dozens of others. Sometimes more if there’s a patch. That’s a lot of money. It might not be illegal but it’s definitely scummy. The model also exists in the game already, literally just zone into e10 litany. It’s exactly the kind of lazy “what’s this down the side of the sofa we can fob them off with” mentality that achievement mounts tend to get.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

got to make up for losses when Final Fantasy XVI and VII Rebirth don't meet sales expectations. because we all know that Square Enix puts impossibly high demands on sales figures.

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Correct hammer, wrong nails. SE makes some big games without the words final and fantasy in their title and those uhhhh, didn't do so well haha.

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Originally Posted by Britha

The store grows more and more bold with higher quality exclusive items every time

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::: looks at all of the one-piece cosplay outfits lately :::;

Higher quality every time. Riiiiiight.......

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Originally Posted by Wingale

It's an optional item. You want it, then buy it, if not, ignore it

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Stop giving into corporations lmao
At this rate the fabled bahamut mount won't be for a big anniversary it'll be 200 dollars on the mogstation
There is WAY too many mounts going on the store lately

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

I dont see how an OPTIONAL mount has any bearing on a games quality. FF 14 is quality gaming in every sense.

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"...for future endeavors LIKE THIS". Not talking about any other aspect of the game besides the online store. Pointing out the 9 unrelated good things doesn't make the 1 bad thing disappear.
If you want more mounts that should have been in game in the first place to be sold on the online store, then yeah I guess there is no problem.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Actually customer B thinks that the mount should only be for "raiders", so they can feel "speshul" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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It doesn't need to be a raid mount lmao. this could've been for a relatively easy achievement or even gold saucer MGP
Either of those would be miles better than $$$ station, for the players

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Then...dont buy it?

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"just ignore the horrible corporate practice impacting in-game item quality! you don't have to buy it, BUT I SURE WILL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"

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Originally Posted by fulminating

You pay a monthly fee, as do dozens of others. Sometimes more if there’s a patch. That’s a lot of money. It might not be illegal but it’s definitely scummy. The model also exists in the game already, literally just zone into e10 litany. It’s exactly the kind of lazy “what’s this down the side of the sofa we can fob them off with” mentality that achievement mounts tend to get.

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Would you prefer they not make any additional Mogstation stuff at all, ever? And would you prefer the benefits for all players that come from Mogstation purchases not exist? To date on record, this includes about a quarter of available housing wards.


They wouldn’t be making these things if there wasn’t additional money in it. The products simply would t exist.

As a person who doesn’t purchase anything on the mogshop, but has benefited from it (hello my beachfront house!), I don’t want to buy the things, but I am glad they exist.

None of it is pay to win, so I just can’t agree that it is scummy or otherwise taking advantage of people. Even if it only took an hour to develop this specific mount, those are billable hours that could go elsewhere. Money that could go elsewhere, even outside of this game. And of note, unless they have changed their policy, those billable hours that are paid for by other Mogshop purchases.


I would call it scummy if it was something like EA did w/ those star wars lootboxes. Where certain characters took thousands to unlock, and said characters were absolutely better than stock free ones. In this, you get what? A black edgelord wolf? A mount you are gonna forget about in 6 months anyway?

It’s business, targeting the whales. It’s what many businesses do, and it pays the bills.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

BLU content has always been released at the end of the expansion. So not sure why you'd expect earlier announcements.

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Yes, but in previous expansions they actually mentioned updates or future plans. BLU didn't even get so much of a peep from Endwalker's fanfest onward. They literally didn't say a single word about it until very recently.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Would you prefer they not make any additional Mogstation stuff at all, ever? And would you prefer the benefits for all players that come from Mogstation purchases not exist? To date on record, this includes about a quarter of available housing wards.

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Yes.
I don't understand, is this meant to be a gotcha?

I also don't believe that the housing wards aren't paying for themselves. How many empty spots are there and how many more subscriptions does that lock in.