Get rid of Series and just put the new stuff in the PvP shop.

FFXIV has terrible PvP, so please remove the series and just make new stuff available for Wolf Marks. That way I can grind stuff at my own pace instead of having to hyper grind every time the series goes away and the stuff becomes unattainable.

Also enough with the freaking FOMO! I hate that crap!

you could have grind at your own pace all season. like 2 games a day and youd have been done with rank 25.

Get out of here with that crap... If I liked playing PvP at all, then we wouldn't have this stupid issue. >_>

then dont play it. ???

This is about FOMO!

well if you play 1 or 2 games a day you can avoid the FOMO

don't do it then
get it later lol

I really hate it when people make these unhelpful comments. You're not solving anything by telling me to play a mode I hate more often.

I'm not gonna touch PvP because it's not fun and the only reason I'm wasting my time and patience with it because once the series rewards are gone they're gone forever!

This is about FOMO and getting rid of it, not me adjusting my behavior to keep up with underhanded business practices!

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

I really hate it when people make these unhelpful comments. You're not solving anything by telling me to play a mode I hate more often.

I'm not gonna touch PvP because it's not fun and the only reason I'm wasting my time and patience with it because once the series rewards are gone they're gone forever!

This is about FOMO and getting rid of it, not me adjusting my behavior to keep up with underhanded business practices!

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Ignore the forum trolls. The real issue is that the PvP devs don't seem to care about what the community thinks or wants, and they routinely ignore any feedback given to them. Sometimes I genuinely wonder if they're actually trolling us.

I don't think grinding series 25 is too much to ask for, for new sets. But I do think they need to add previous rewards into the crystal shop after awhile. But instead of that the devs decided that us PvP players want recolored crystal tower gear in the store, instead of really good looking previous set pieces from the feast, or other pvp series. That's ridiculous. Recolor garbage from crystal tower? No incentive for anyone to do pvp to grind it out.

PvP has potential to be fun, I have faith one day they'll accidentally make the necessary changes, or give an incentive for people to care about it. Until then it'll just rot away only being played for tomestone events.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

Ignore the forum trolls.

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that's what you're replying to.

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that's what you're replying to.

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You all sure do love to take anyone who has an issue with an aspect of the game and write them off as trolls. Shameful.

if you only play 1 game a day its 5 minutes tops. then its over. solutions are in front of you. well have a fun weekend!

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You all sure do love to take anyone who has an issue with an aspect of the game and write them off as trolls. Shameful.

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no its a troll. they did the same thing the last series and the one before it too. and i provided the same solutions. it will be a repeat in 5 months or so.

I see why people dislike limited-time rewards aka FOMO. However, I do not understand players who call a 16+ week time frame (4 months) a terrible thing to slowly and comfortably grind out a mere 25 levels.

The Battle Pass is a good system to incentivise engagement with PvP and time has yet to tell if items returning was a reaching promise or not, given it is only Pass #3. If the pace is too slow for you with large scale PvP, maybe bite into the sour apple and play Crystalline Conflict for a bit. Hardcore players grind it out in a day, casuals can do it easily in a month.

Not every limited-time window is maximum Blizzard-style a**cancer FOMO.

Because they don't like the mode but want it's rewards. I hate raiding make savage armor/weapons available for poetics! lol~

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I really hate it when people make these unhelpful comments. You're not solving anything by telling me to play a mode I hate more often.

I'm not gonna touch PvP because it's not fun and the only reason I'm wasting my time and patience with it because once the series rewards are gone they're gone forever!

This is about FOMO and getting rid of it, not me adjusting my behavior to keep up with underhanded business practices!

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Oh no, the horror. You wont have access to a armor set or mount that you will never use. Also, those "unhelpful comments" are more helpful than your pointless complaining about about made up BS like "FOMO." You wouldn't have to "grind" if you literally just did what they suggested and played 1 roulette of frontlines and 1 match of CC every day as you have FOUR MONTHS to complete a series.

The current pvp is good.

The series system is good.

If you don't like pvp, DON'T PLAY PVP THEN. Stop crying about dumb garbage like FOMO. You don't need to own every damn item in the game, especially items you will rarely or never use in a game that won't be active forever.

Damn that's a terrible troll.

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FFXIV has terrible PvP, so please remove the series and just make new stuff available for Wolf Marks. That way I can grind stuff at my own pace instead of having to hyper grind every time the series goes away and the stuff becomes unattainable.

Also enough with the freaking FOMO! I hate that crap!

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theres more then enough time to grind it out, you just need to stop being lazy.

It speaks volumes how many trolls come here for no other reason than to gainsay valid complaints.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/p...oving_look.jpg

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It speaks volumes how many trolls come here for no other reason than to gainsay valid complaints.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/p...oving_look.jpg

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valid solutions were provided to your quandry, also that movie is terrible.

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It speaks volumes how many trolls come here for no other reason than to gainsay valid complaints.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/p...oving_look.jpg

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Your nonsense post got some of these folks who are often at each others throats to agree against you. It speaks volumes.

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I see why people dislike limited-time rewards aka FOMO. However, I do not understand players who call a 16+ week time frame (4 months) a terrible thing to slowly and comfortably grind out a mere 25 levels.

The Battle Pass is a good system to incentivise engagement with PvP and time has yet to tell if items returning was a reaching promise or not, given it is only Pass #3. If the pace is too slow for you with large scale PvP, maybe bite into the sour apple and play Crystalline Conflict for a bit. Hardcore players grind it out in a day, casuals can do it easily in a month.

Not every limited-time window is maximum Blizzard-style a**cancer FOMO.

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Personally I would argue any form of battlepass system is bad to some degree but the PvP one in XIV is definetly one of the more forgiving ones, I suppose I've been burnt out before on the EA and Blizzard levels of FOMO.

I'm not really convinced it has actually had much of an effect on number of players, generally if you do enjoy the PvP then you'll be doing it anyway for the standard rewards and if you just want the series rewards you'll probably knock those out in a couple of weeks and then be done.

The real fix to this is to generally improve the PvP mode so more people will actually want to play it and you wouldn't need FOMO tactics in the first place, but that's another discussion.

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I see why people dislike limited-time rewards aka FOMO. However, I do not understand players who call a 16+ week time frame (4 months) a terrible thing to slowly and comfortably grind out a mere 25 levels.

The Battle Pass is a good system to incentivise engagement with PvP and time has yet to tell if items returning was a reaching promise or not, given it is only Pass #3. If the pace is too slow for you with large scale PvP, maybe bite into the sour apple and play Crystalline Conflict for a bit. Hardcore players grind it out in a day, casuals can do it easily in a month.

Not every limited-time window is maximum Blizzard-style a**cancer FOMO.

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Battlepass is not a good system, it's another coping mechanism gamers have learned to accept. That mobile play style along with Facebook gaming play styles are rubbish. You shouldn't be earning rewards for checking in, or looking at a shop menu, or spending time in the menu clicking confirm for reward or 'sending your units' and not playing for the next 3 days. You should be rewarded for gaming.

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Battlepass is not a good system, it's another coping mechanism gamers have learned to accept. That mobile play style along with Facebook gaming play styles are rubbish. You shouldn't be earning rewards for checking in, or looking at a shop menu, or spending time in the menu clicking confirm for reward or 'sending your units' and not playing for the next 3 days. You should be rewarded for gaming.

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shouldnt be rewards at all, just play the game.

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shouldnt be rewards at all, just play the game.

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I see why people dislike limited-time rewards aka FOMO. However, I do not understand players who call a 16+ week time frame (4 months) a terrible thing to slowly and comfortably grind out a mere 25 levels.

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Because it is still a limited time window that you can miss. People got the impression that the rewards would return but there has been 0 info about it for a whole year so people will be anxious and complain until they confirm them to come back :p

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i dont get it

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The real fix to this is to generally improve the PvP mode so more people will actually want to play it and you wouldn't need FOMO tactics in the first place, but that's another discussion.

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Yeah I got trolled when I asked for that too.

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Because it is still a limited time window that you can miss. People got the impression that the rewards would return but there has been 0 info about it for a whole year so people will be anxious and complain until they confirm them to come back :p

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I feel them on this one, they do take an awful while to start with their rerelease schedule. But for now best practice is like two games of CC or a daily FL a day at least, more if you feel like pushing ahead to cover for days of non-play.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

FFXIV has terrible PvP, so please remove the series and just make new stuff available for Wolf Marks. That way I can grind stuff at my own pace instead of having to hyper grind every time the series goes away and the stuff becomes unattainable.

Also enough with the freaking FOMO! I hate that crap!

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If terrible pvp is the issue how does getting rid of series fix this? You'll still have to play to get said rewards. I already grind at my own pace with series around and 4 months is more than enough. No one and I mean no one HAS to hypergrind anything. Also just saying, FOMO only works on weaker willed people. I don't fear missing out on a digital cosmetic

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If terrible pvp is the issue how does getting rid of series fix this? You'll still have to play to get said rewards. I already grind at my own pace with series around and 4 months is more than enough. No one and I mean no one HAS to hypergrind anything. Also just saying, FOMO only works on weaker willed people. I don't fear missing out on a digital cosmetic

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This is exactly what I mean when I talk about unhelpful responses.

Smh.

You could have just said to get rid of the battle passes and be done with it. Everyone would have understood, as that is a very poor system to get people into pvp. Would of probably worked for rank CC but not in general. Mentioning FOMO on the other hand....

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This is exactly what I mean when I talk about unhelpful responses.

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at this point you just dont like the answers given to you.
while i agree fomo is dumb, the time given is more then enough for you to grind out the entire pass no problem.

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This is exactly what I mean when I talk about unhelpful responses.

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Unhelpful? You're calling for the removal of something. How exactly is someone here suppose to help huh? We gotta storm SE headquarters and make the change ourselves? Or are you looking for people to co sign what you're saying which doesn't help)?

Someone here already said one match a day n you'd be fine but noooooo that's not help. Which tells me you're not looking for help. You're trying to drum up trouble

The fact that they haven't made the series 1 rewards available again after all this time is starting to make me think that they went back on their claim that past series rewards would be obtainable again.

i think that since they haven't made a shop for the old rewards makes me think they will reserve those things for future mogtome events. that seems to be the go to place when they say that old things will be obtainable again, just not perpetually re-obtainable.

But they already allow you to purchase rewards from the previous battle pass. If you've earned level 25 in the previous series battle pass, you can still go back and buy them with the trophy crystals you earned during that series up until the new series is over.

I don't think they went back on their word, but maybe many players just misunderstood or were expecting something grand as in purchasing rewards without having to earn them.

no, you can only CLAIM things you have not done so already in the previous battle pass until the next series. Once you claimed everything, the button to go back to the previous series list disappears. When the new series starts, you can only work on that series.

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The fact that they haven't made the series 1 rewards available again after all this time is starting to make me think that they went back on their claim that past series rewards would be obtainable again.

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They didn't claim that, uhhh sorta. That was from the Reddit translation. If you go back and reread the LL digest posted here at the time it doesn't really say that, though it's worded so weirdly that I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking otherwise at first glance.

Edit: What they actually meant, and this has been borne out as what happens is let's say you spent the entire day right before the season changes grinding CC, go on a 10 win losing streak and demote all the way from bronze 1 to bronze 5 again and you go apoplectic and have a stroke before you bring up your series menu and claim your rewards. After your hospital stay, the new series has begun. You can then go back to the old series rewards and claim the trophies and whatnot that you had managed to unlock already but had not claimed. You cannot then go on to unlock any other older series rewards on that old track, whatever you didn't earn is lost forever.*

*Until they actually do some kind of rerun or maybe dump it on the trophy rewards, who knows what the future actually holds.

Welp, done with that horrible grind. Now I don't have to touch it again for a few months.

yay