We have officially reached maintenance....

Title....Im completely done being in ln-denial

Skiros, who is definitely not me, is such a visionary. Ahead of his time (ignore that it's only two months ago)

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...anaged-decline

See, here's the problem. FFXI has been in maintenance mode for years, but it still gets meaningful updates.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

See, here's the problem. FFXI has been in maintenance mode for years, but it still gets meaningful updates.

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Eh, with the changing of producers and him having the developers basically use FF11 as a secondary task so they can get experience in other games not sure how much longer there will be meaningful updates after this year.

Maintenance Mode isnt for another few weeks when 6.4 drops.
Jumped the Shark there mate.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

Eh, with the changing of producers and him having the developers basically use FF11 as a secondary task so they can get experience in other games not sure how much longer there will be meaningful updates after this year.

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I dunno, I think it'll probably continue for at least a couple more years. FFXI remains lucrative for the moment, and its remaining playerbase is quite dedicated. They're also rather clever when it comes to finding unique ways to kill stuff or just break the game in general, something developers tend to appreciate when it comes to letting new people get hands on experience.

I mean, the game IS kind of boring and shitty. But there's just so much to do below level 80 you guys!

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

Skiros, who is definitely not me, is such a visionary. Ahead of his time (ignore that it's only two months ago)

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...anaged-decline

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You did it, Skiros. You was right all along.

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Originally Posted by Ishe-P

I mean, the game IS kind of boring and shitty. But there's just so much to do below level 80 you guys!

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Talk to a NPC - > wall of boring, non voiced text that could be resumed in 1 sentence -> TP to a location -> Talk to another NPC - > TP to another location - > Kill 3 mobs that hits you for 0 or right click on a shiny surface that comes from a 2002 game. -> Talk back to the previous NPC(MSQ) -> Watch 10 minutes of non-voiced cutscene -> Repeat.

And don't let me start with craft or gathering jobs.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

See, here's the problem. FFXI has been in maintenance mode for years, but it still gets meaningful updates.

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Speaking of, we should all go play that. It's even about to be on sale!

(Or is it already?....) ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

You have no idea what maintenance mode means. But I’m sure this post will go on for pages as it supports this forums favorite activity - complaining.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Talk to a NPC - > wall of boring, non voiced text that could be resumed in 1 sentence -> TP to a location -> Talk to another NPC - > TP to another location - > Kill 3 mobs that hits you for 0 or right click on a shiny surface that comes from a 2002 game. -> Talk back to the previous NPC(MSQ) -> Watch 10 minutes of non-voiced cutscene -> Repeat.

And don't let me start with craft or gathering jobs.

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welcome to MMOs?

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Originally Posted by hagare

welcome to MMOs?

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FF14 feels pretty unique in how little combat there is for an MMO.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

You have no idea what maintenance mode means. But I’m sure this post will go on for pages as it supports this forums favorite activity - complaining.

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Since were assuming... ive prolly been playing mmos longer than youve been alive yet i have no idea what im talking about. Got it...also attacking me wont change da truth but if it makes you feel better by all means....lets play

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Since were assuming... ive prolly been playing mmos longer than youve been alive yet i have no idea what im talking about. Got it...also attacking me wont change da truth but if it makes you feel better by all means....lets play

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You are probably wrong unless you are over 100 years old which would still make you wrong as mmos haven’t been a thing that long. Your being wrong but simply digging your heels into ignorance doesn’t make you right.

Anyway, since I’m not into your pointless melodrama and desire to argue, I won’t be responding further. I’ll let someone else give you the forum attention you so clearly need.

Ps- you don’t seem to know the word “officially” either.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

FF14 feels pretty unique in how little combat there is for an MMO.

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And that's... bad?

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

And that's... bad?

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If you want to play a game and not watch a movie, yes.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

If you want to play a game and not watch a movie, yes.

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The dialogue is part of the game though. You just basically said as much.

Also, if you want to fight things without care for the reason, which is what the dialogue provides, there are literally mobs all over the map. You can attack them and gain exp for it at any time. Also leves provide plenty of combat focused questing. FATEs. PvP. Nothing keeps you from fighting stuff.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

You are probably wrong unless you are over 100 years old which would still make you wrong as mmos haven’t been a thing that long. Your being wrong but simply digging your heels into ignorance doesn’t make you right.

Anyway, since I’m not into your pointless melodrama and desire to argue, I won’t be responding further. I’ll let someone else give you the forum attention you so clearly need.

Ps- you don’t seem to know the word “officially” either.

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I'd hazard a guess that if someone were genuinely not looking for 'pointless melodrama' then their most recent posts would not consist solely of attempts to brand any and all criticism of a controversial developer decision as 'whining'.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Since were assuming... ive prolly been playing mmos longer than youve been alive yet i have no idea what im talking about. Got it...also attacking me wont change da truth but if it makes you feel better by all means....lets play

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We got a granpa among us ladies and gents, make sure to use respectful language and line up for those mysterious candies

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

We got a granpa among us ladies and gents, make sure to use respectful language and line up for those mysterious candies

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.........../corny

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

We got a granpa among us ladies and gents, make sure to use respectful language and line up for those mysterious candies

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Well I do make sure I have those candies they are always individually wrapped to look like strawberries on hand if I have any visitors to my room in the old folks home.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

.........../corny

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https://media.tenor.com/_vh6c9xHjPQAAAAi/laugh-haha.gif

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Well I do make sure I have those candies they are always individually wrapped to look like strawberries on hand if I have any visitors to my room in the old folks home.

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As long as you are at the old folks home and not in a van Im down

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

Skiros, who is definitely not me, is such a visionary. Ahead of his time (ignore that it's only two months ago)

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...anaged-decline

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Originally Posted by Skiros

Hop over to fresh new 10/10 games like Forspoken

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Hasn't Forespoken kind of...totally crashed and burned, though?

I feel like this guy is trying to get me to buy <insert latest digital currency that's "about to go big"> or something... <_<

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

You have no idea what maintenance mode means. But I’m sure this post will go on for pages as it supports this forums favorite activity - complaining.

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This is terrifyingly accurate.

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Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl

Speaking of, we should all go play that. It's even about to be on sale!

(Or is it already?....) ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

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Wait what?

I wouldn't mind getting into that game if it was still group focused (since it has the old school MMO elements for it) and if the Play Online system...uh...didn't exist. And I hated the "Go get Trusts, level up, then come and talk to us again" mentality of some of the playerbase (not always harsh, but it seemed the general consensus was "go level yourself solo with your Trusts then play 'the real game' once you hit level cap"), which kind of put me off from doing it since I like games like that for the multiplayer aspect. Apparently it's why people love private servers of the game...

Make a new launcher and have a bundled $20-$25 sub for FF11 + FF14 and I'd be all over that, though.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

I dunno, I think it'll probably continue for at least a couple more years. FFXI remains lucrative for the moment, and its remaining playerbase is quite dedicated. They're also rather clever when it comes to finding unique ways to kill stuff or just break the game in general, something developers tend to appreciate when it comes to letting new people get hands on experience.

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I think most of its playerbase plays on private servers because the retail version of it isnt what it used to be and just like with WoW, the old version of the game was much better than the current one

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Originally Posted by Amenara

Eh, with the changing of producers and him having the developers basically use FF11 as a secondary task so they can get experience in other games not sure how much longer there will be meaningful updates after this year.

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Wasnt the latest update supposed to be the last one? Pretty sure its in actual maintenance mode now.

Having criticism of dev decisions is one thing, but to say the game is "officially in maintenance mode" is silly. Just because you don't like what content is added in patches doesn't mean it's not added. Do I feel like a 4 month update cycle is way to long? Yes, of course. Even if it's only "two weeks" longer than a patch cycle in ShB, it still feels unbearably long. But it still gets updates. It still gets content added.

But since OP has already pulled the "I've been playing MMOs much longer than you, I should know" card, I already know it's going to be dismissed.

Let's not be hyperbolic and label what's happening as something it isn't. The games not in maintenance mode, you just don't like the content added. That's fine. No need to make ish up to justify how you feel.

Yeah it's in maintenance mode.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/endwalker/patch_6_4/

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Title....Im completely done being in ln-denial

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They made it official?

This is totally unacceptable. That's it. I've had it enough




Here's my announcement of me quitting FFXIV for the 33th times. I will stop logging in for 1 day just to let them know they just made one of their customer most loyal unsub and resub

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Title....Im completely done being in ln-denial

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Did you even see the shark as you jumped clear over it, or was it not visible from orbit?

New dungeon gear will be another recolor. This time deepshadow gear with ktisis weapons.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

FF14 feels pretty unique in how little combat there is for an MMO.

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Lol? No it isn't?
The amount of combat, talking and running involved it's pretty on par with other games. Hell, in most of them you can skip fighting to a degree (and at all in some cases!) if you're playing a stealth class. But no, it's only ff14 that is bad, yeah.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'd hazard a guess that if someone were genuinely not looking for 'pointless melodrama' then their most recent posts would not consist solely of attempts to brand any and all criticism of a controversial developer decision as 'whining'.

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Maybe you replied to the wrong person but that’s not my post history. Lol

I forgive you. With nearly 10,000 forum posts you are bound to get confused here and there.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Having criticism of dev decisions is one thing, but to say the game is "officially in maintenance mode" is silly. Just because you don't like what content is added in patches doesn't mean it's not added. Do I feel like a 4 month update cycle is way to long? Yes, of course. Even if it's only "two weeks" longer than a patch cycle in ShB, it still feels unbearably long. But it still gets updates. It still gets content added.

But since OP has already pulled the "I've been playing MMOs much longer than you, I should know" card, I already know it's going to be dismissed.

Let's not be hyperbolic and label what's happening as something it isn't. The games not in maintenance mode, you just don't like the content added. That's fine. No need to make ish up to justify how you feel.

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Bookmarking this thread don't worry...just keep the same energy when i tag you and zephyr 1-2 years from today. By then both of you will probably back track so ill keep the receipts.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'd hazard a guess that if someone were genuinely not looking for 'pointless melodrama' then their most recent posts would not consist solely of attempts to brand any and all criticism of a controversial developer decision as 'whining'.

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Facts and I saw em coming...tbh i expected better. Attacking with tired rhetorics is easy do....applying logic however...different story

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Originally Posted by Hatfright

Lol? No it isn't?
The amount of combat, talking and running involved it's pretty on par with other games. Hell, in most of them you can skip fighting to a degree (and at all in some cases!) if you're playing a stealth class. But no, it's only ff14 that is bad, yeah.

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How many mental backflips that take you?

https://i.imgur.com/hsMtnnq.gif

It really isn't on par with other games. You need to go play those other games and stop lying. MSQ is known for how very little combat there is, and how much text reading, cutscenes, and back and forth there is. It's common in each expansion where you'll at times go hours without a single encounter or duty, even speeding through MSQ.

Like sure, over the course of all expansions - There's some good Trials and end-game.. But no, the MSQ and casual gameplay isn't really combat focused unless you're grinding on purpose.

There's really no argument - If you want to sit in denial to impress the sprouts, that's on you.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Bookmarking this thread don't worry...just keep the same energy when i tag you and zephyr 1-2 years from today. By then both of you will probably back track so ill keep the receipts.

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Tagging us 2 years from now doesn't make you correct about an "official maintenance mode" today. Look up official. Look up maintenance mode. LOL!

Hint: You'll probably still be wrong 2 years from now.

I'm doing you a kindness replying again so you don't have to wait with anticipation for 2 years to tag us.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Facts and I saw em coming...tbh i expected better. Attacking with tired rhetorics is easy do....applying logic however...different story

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Adding "Facts" to the terms I recommend you look up.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

FF14 feels pretty unique in how little combat there is for an MMO.

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I agree. But to some this is a good thing. As a huge fan of games like the tell tale series, an RPGMMO is right down my alley. The MSQ of this game felt like an interactive story with occasional multiplayer more than it felt like a "game." It's part of the core of what makes this game successful for me and others like me. "How little combat" there is, as you put it, is a feature not a bug. But I respect that not everyone wants this. I believe those folks would be better served by an MMORPG that caters more to their playstyle. Less story, more combat, more raids more pvp, hmm I can think of many.

Other mmo's are games that you play. FFXIV is unapologetically a world to live in, and Im here for it.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

I agree. But to some this is a good thing. As a huge fan of games like the tell tale series, an RPGMMO is right down my alley. The MSQ of this game felt like an interactive story with occasional multiplayer more than it felt like a "game." It's part of the core of what makes this game successful for me and others like me. "How little combat" there is, as you put it, is a feature not a bug. But I respect that not everyone wants this. I believe those folks would be better served by an MMORPG that caters more to their playstyle. Less story, more combat, more raids more pvp, hmm I can think of many.

Other mmo's are games that you play. FFXIV is unapologetically a world to live in, and Im here for it.

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I think that's fine that people just enjoy the MSQ and lore. Unfortunately I think some people (myself included) are getting frustrated that the mid-tier players are getting pushed out, in favor of pure casual MSQ or high-end. There doesn't feel like there's really a middle ground right now. Hoping it's just an Endwalker issue, but class homogenization over the years has made basic dungeons pretty bland to me now.

XIV has evolved in an extremely frustrating way to me personally.

I wouldn't call it maintenance mode though, maybe maintenance prep because of the old expac bot updates. lol

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Title....Im completely done being in ln-denial

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Well you should get out of the river then. The Nile is a beautiful place, but you enjoy its beauty from the bank and not in the water.