Some MMO we have

Add content to keep the game alive please.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Add content to keep the game alive please.

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But people said the game is growing and thriving, lmao /shrug

Also love how there's more venues in the others tab than the endgame content tab

NA datacenter a bit before prime time starts + hardly anyone uses Party Finder for dungeons, most of the people are in the High-End Duty tab, recruiting in the Other tab or do *gasp* other things in the game that don't require party finder.

If the content drought between major patches affects you because from all the content in the game you got nothing you want to catch up on, Yoshi P himself recommends to take a break until the next major patch (6.4).

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Yoshi P himself recommends to take a break until the next major patch (6.4).

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Yes, but this is me recommending Yoshi P adding longer lasting content to the game. There could even be revenue in it. Subs are good for business generally.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

NA datacenter a bit before prime time starts + hardly anyone uses Party Finder for dungeons, most of the people are in the High-End Duty tab, recruiting in the Other tab or do *gasp* other things in the game that don't require party finder.

If the content drought between major patches affects you because from all the content in the game you got nothing you want to catch up on, Yoshi P himself recommends to take a break until the next major patch (6.4).

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Is that why auto demolish is a thing ? Because you're supposed to take breaks ?

Oh I see, you can take breaks guys, but dont forget to pay your monthly subscriptions to keep your house, else you are good to bid on houses for the next few years if you dare unsubscribe.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Is that why auto demolish is a thing ? Because you're supposed to take breaks ?

Oh I see, you can take breaks guys, but dont forget to pay your monthly subscriptions to keep your house, else you are good to bid on houses for the next few years if you dare unsubscribe.

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Okay so, this isn't me saying that the housing system isn't awful, but, if you don't want to keep playing because you already completed all content that you care about completing, why do you need a house? you are clearly not using it... again, in an ideal situation you'd never lose your house at all, and there would be housing available for everyone, but that not being the case, why have something you dont care about using keeping you held down?

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

Okay so, this isn't me saying that the housing system isn't awful, but, if you don't want to keep playing because you already completed all content that you care about completing, why do you need a house? you are clearly not using it... again, in an ideal situation you'd never lose your house at all, and there would be housing available for everyone, but that not being the case, why have something you dont care about using keeping you held down?

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In what way does that even make any sort of sense ? The game literally offers barely any content at all, a week into patch day, everyone already starts to afk in Limsa and pf starts to empty, because its just that bad, and people should be blamed because they want to take breaks from paying a subscription.. for a game that offers nothing at all outside of a patch every 5 months ?

A person taking a break doesnt mean they dont care about their house, or that they dont want to use it, it just means that the game is severely lacking in player retention and that people are extremely bored.

You cant just go around and start blaming players for taking breaks when the game offers such minimal content, but hey, at least they got money to pump those mog station glams and mounts, that gets released on a regular basis because at least they got money for that.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Add content to keep the game alive please.

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I mean, what time of night was this?

And it's not as if High-End Content (the one area that actually needs premade parties) was without any parties even then... (19 listings, as compared to this 1 listing for Dungeons, which have no use for premade parties).

...More broadly speaking, that XIV is still "growing and thriving" is generally out of touch or out of date except on major patch drops, especially on certain DCs, but this seems a bit cherry-picked.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Add content to keep the game alive please.

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Yikes. Your DC is a ghost town.

Excaliber is EU?

In the Middle of a Match in Apex, Ill check on my Data Center in abit


EDIT: LMAO, ran out of Posts, ah well, at least this is on the front page so maybe it wont get missed
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Currently 5:17pm on NA Datacenter.

Game is Dead Guys, nobody is playing, everyone is bored ~Stormpeaks...or someone idk
Look at the Steamcharts. Copium and blahblahblah.

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Crystal around 8 PM Eastern on a Saturday. Pretty prime time-y in my opinion. 3 High End duty groups, a handful of Trial ones, and several dozen ads for venues and such. We Second Life now boys.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

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Crystal around 8 PM Eastern on a Saturday. Pretty prime time-y in my opinion. 3 High End duty groups, a handful of Trial ones, and several dozen ads for venues and such. We Second Life now boys.

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That's hilarious tbh, the amount of venue ads compared to the endgame ads, it really shows how bored people are with the existing content, especially lately with criterion and deep dungeons being completely irrelevant very quick after the patch, there is absolutely no content to do dungeon / raid wise aside from the daily boring roulettes in which you end up with 2 spells because you are on a low level dungeon and roulettes in general are an absolute bore, 0 difficulty of any sort, just the same boring thing with no difficulty.

Cant say the game needs more content, casual players will tear you apart.

The game has to remain stagnant on the same content release as every other expansion, change is not welcome and people will defend the bland drip fend content till they day they die(Even though they don't do the content to begin with).

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Cant say the game needs more content, casual players will tear you apart.

The game has to remain stagnant on the same content release as every other expansion, change is not welcome and people will defend the bland drip fend content till they day they die(Even though they don't do the content to begin with).

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Have you done everything? Theres eNdLeSs content

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Have you done everything? Theres eNdLeSs content

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Endless content if you are new to the game and haven't played for 9 years.

Yes there are things i have not done, that straight up do not interest me (10 hour runs of POTD for a title just to die on floor 180 is such good content).

But general things like Relics, Sidequests, Housing, Glam Collecting, Raiding, beast tribes.. yeah.. i have done them. Few things im still working on like Ultimates/DRS but those are basically all that keeps me logging on every few days to play. What happens when i clear those? Who knows.

Welcome to the results of DC travel, where everyone moved end game content to aether, which is thriving.



Why is it everyone seems to be advocating for the removal of DC travel In these threads? Because that's the "fix" for this of you want to see pf for content in all dcs.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Welcome to the results of DC travel, where everyone moved end game content to aether, which is thriving.



Why is it everyone seems to be advocating for the removal of DC travel In these threads? Because that's the "fix" for this of you want to see pf for content in all dcs.

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The best fix would be ONLY allow raiding and roleplaying during DC travel.

Roulettes and leveling experience should be nerfed to like 50% on non-home datacenters to promote playing on your home DC.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Cant say the game needs more content, casual players will tear you apart.

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What would you suggest as 'more content'. Please be specific. How would you expect that content to be released? Again, please be specific.

Do not use "I don't know, that's the publisher's job", as the publisher appears to feel they're getting a good return for their investments with the current content.

Can you use other MMORPG content releases to point to one or two subscription-based games that maintain the content schedule you're expecting?

Does a long grind = content in your mind? If that's the case, I highly recommend Path of Exile.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I mean, what time of night was this?

And it's not as if High-End Content (the one area that actually needs premade parties) was without any parties even then... (19 listings, as compared to this 1 listing for Dungeons, which have no use for premade parties).

...More broadly speaking, that XIV is still "growing and thriving" is generally out of touch or out of date except on major patch drops, especially on certain DCs, but this seems a bit cherry-picked.

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About 5 minutes before I posted. I just took a screenshot and uploaded it. Primal DC.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

What would you suggest as 'more content'. Please be specific. How would you expect that content to be released? Again, please be specific.

Do not use "I don't know, that's the publisher's job", as the publisher appears to feel they're getting a good return for their investments with the current content.

Can you use other MMORPG content releases to point to one or two subscription-based games that maintain the content schedule you're expecting?

Does a long grind = content in your mind? If that's the case, I highly recommend Path of Exile.

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M+ is the best option for content replayability and also because it adds regular different affixes, and the dungeon changes every few months.

SE tried to do their own version with criterion and whatever is the other one, and both failed absolutely miserably, because what they released was M+, on a single dungeon, rewarding well... absolutely nothing

They actually managed to change a winning recipe into a disaster that the entire community or close to it completely ignores.

Also for the love of god, make raids actually fun, and make savage alliance raids or something, give people that "damn this area is nice" factor, not this "oh nice here's another tiny square that i'll be fighting in for months", savage raids in this game are literally glorified trials, there is no difference between extreme and savage.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Excaliber is EU?

In the Middle of a Match in Apex, Ill check on my Data Center in abit


EDIT: LMAO, ran out of Posts, ah well, at least this is on the front page so maybe it wont get missed
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Currently 5:17pm on NA Datacenter.

Game is Dead Guys, nobody is playing, everyone is bored ~Stormpeaks...or someone idk
Look at the Steamcharts. Copium and blahblahblah.

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This must be Aether, nice, based on someone else posting what Crystal looks like at least 1 out of the 4 datacenters has life in it.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

This must be Aether, nice, based on someone else posting what Crystal looks like at least 1 out of the 4 datacenters has life in it.

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They actually think they did a "gotcha" moment, but they actually proved my point xD

Aether is the only DC in which there is content around, people literally have to go there, otherwise they can barely do any content at all, they are actually forced to DC travel to even be able to do it.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Add content to keep the game alive please.

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.... Who on earth is using party finder to get through Haukke Manor normal? XD That isn't a thing. There's no way.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

They actually think they did a "gotcha" moment, but they actually proved my point xD

Aether is the only DC in which there is content around, people literally have to go there, otherwise they can barely do any content at all, they are actually forced to DC travel to even be able to do it.

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Although if DC travel werent a thing, which it wasnt for the last decade, then PF would be blowing up right now since people are "forced" having to deal with their community.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

What would you suggest as 'more content'. Please be specific. How would you expect that content to be released? Again, please be specific.

Do not use "I don't know, that's the publisher's job", as the publisher appears to feel they're getting a good return for their investments with the current content.

Can you use other MMORPG content releases to point to one or two subscription-based games that maintain the content schedule you're expecting?

Does a long grind = content in your mind? If that's the case, I highly recommend Path of Exile.

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Anything to keep player engagement levels up.

People look down on content like Eureka, but Eureka, to this day, is still active and thriving because the content lasts longer than the patch it released on.

Island Sanctuary had so much potential, but in reality what we got was 1 week of '5 minutes maintenance on the island' to get max level then never touch it again.
Variant Dungeons too had massive potential, but what we got was 'get mount, never touch again'.

The rewards? Overly expensive Materia that is easily obtained in other ways and a couple of mounts.

What reasons would i have to do Eureka in 2023.
1. It is insanely good GIL/h if you farm bunny fates.
2. Armor and Weapons that are Unique, and act towards power progression within those zones.
3. Baldession Arsonal, A very easy raid in the standards of todays raiding scene, but rewards (in my opinion) one of the best mounts in the game, alongside items that sell for good profits.
4. The Community. There is a THRIVING community in Eureka in every Region, and they are always willing to jump in and help people, it still has that MMO feeling that the rest of the game is losing.

What reasons would i have to do variant dungeons in 2023.
1. Mount?
2. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

What reasons would i have to do Island Sanctuary in 2023.
1. Mounts?
2. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Do you see where I'm coming from?
The content that we used to get was long lasting content, that even to this day is still active.
The content we are getting now stagnates within a single patch and is not even remotely worth the time investment.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Although if DC travel werent a thing, which it wasnt for the last decade, then PF would be blowing up right now since people are "forced" having to deal with their community.

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I was actually about to do an edit about it, even if people were sent back to their home dcs, the amount of venues would still be bigger compared to the amount of endgame parties, by quite a margin, also to take in mind is that a lot of venues dont publicly advertise, there are hundreds and hundreds of venues every day, that are all on a particular website that I actually forgot the address of

The point I am making is that the venue community is actually massive compared to the "endgame" community, and there is a reason for it, the content is unsatisfying. You dont see people do this in WoW, and I have played it for an extremely long time, yes there is ERP, but it's a minuscule niche of people that does it, a very small minority, the main activity of the game is the actual.. game and content, not venues or ERP

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Yeah it's a shame. I thought SHB was pretty barren but COVID happened so it was whatever I guess and yet shockingly EW is worse. The new stuff we got like Variant and IS shouldn't have replaced exploratory zones and stuff. It would've been great extra content on top of the exploratory zone stuff.

I'll buy 7.0 for the graphics update because I really wanted that to happen and I put my money where my mouth is but if 7.0 is another 2 years of the same bread I'm not gonna last much longer. Even for a big fan of the franchise with this content cycle it's impossible not to move on after a while.

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An exploratory zone a la Bozja or Eureka would probably have saved this expansion to be fair, at least to some extent, but even on that they managed to fail and didnt deliver anything, instead we got a failed M+ version from WoW and islands, a content that is as boring as can be, that is also purely automatized on day 1 of the content dropping, 2 if you're slow, so you have to visit it once a week maybe, and that's pretty much it, great content there.

Also the next expansion seem to be in an absurdly long time, we are looking as far I remember at early to mid 2024 (heard a few saying may or a bit before that), that's an entire year of this, so yeahhhhh...

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

They actually think they did a "gotcha" moment, but they actually proved my point xD

Aether is the only DC in which there is content around, people literally have to go there, otherwise they can barely do any content at all, they are actually forced to DC travel to even be able to do it.

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Yeah it's a shame. I thought SHB was pretty barren but COVID happened so it was whatever I guess and yet shockingly EW is worse. The new stuff we got like Variant and IS shouldn't have replaced exploratory zones and stuff. It would've been great extra content on top of the exploratory zone stuff.

I'll buy 7.0 for the graphics update because I really wanted that to happen and I put my money where my mouth is but if 7.0 is another 2 years of the same bread I'm not gonna last much longer. Even for a big fan of the franchise with this content cycle it's impossible not to move on after a while.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Anything to keep player engagement levels up.

People look down on content like Eureka, but Eureka, to this day, is still active and thriving because the content lasts longer than the patch it released on.

Island Sanctuary had so much potential, but in reality what we got was 1 week of '5 minutes maintenance on the island' to get max level then never touch it again.
Variant Dungeons too had massive potential, but what we got was 'get mount, never touch again'.

The rewards? Overly expensive Materia that is easily obtained in other ways and a couple of mounts.

What reasons would i have to do Eureka in 2023.
1. It is insanely good GIL/h if you farm bunny fates.
2. Armor and Weapons that are Unique, and act towards power progression within those zones.
3. Baldession Arsonal, A very easy raid in the standards of todays raiding scene, but rewards (in my opinion) one of the best mounts in the game, alongside items that sell for good profits.
4. The Community. There is a THRIVING community in Eureka in every Region, and they are always willing to jump in and help people, it still has that MMO feeling that the rest of the game is losing.

What reasons would i have to do variant dungeons in 2023.
1. Mount?
2. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

What reasons would i have to do Island Sanctuary in 2023.
1. Mounts?
2. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Do you see where I'm coming from?
The content that we used to get was long lasting content, that even to this day is still active.
The content we are getting now stagnates within a single patch and is not even remotely worth the time investment.

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Too bad that Eureka is absolutely boring to do (literally 80% of the players in the zone whom hit max level are afk'ing at the base waiting for NM to pop), the only reason Eureka thrives is because there's always new players or alts running around for progression. Relics only get you so far and once you acquire them there's literally nothing else to use them on besides BA. It needs more content if we're going to use it as a "high standard", which I honestly dont believe so. And I'm saying this as someone whom grinded all of Eureka and done BA THRICE on 3 different characters. The leveling experience is passable but still boring. Classic WoW had better progression than Eureka.

Get out of here with that bs nonsense. Eureka flippin' sucks as content

Is the amount of PF parties even a good metric to measure the liveliness of the game? Most players don't even use it, but they're still playing.

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

Is the amount of PF parties even a good metric to measure the liveliness of the game? Most players don't even use it, but they're still playing.

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THIS 100%

It also proves just how efficient this game's duty finder is for most of the content. Obviously not always the case but if you notice, a lot of PF groups have very specific goals and attachments for wanting to form the group.

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

.... Who on earth is using party finder to get through Haukke Manor normal? XD That isn't a thing. There's no way.

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And yet there they are. My guess is it was a DPS that wasn't finding people to do it with in DF. I left the little flower so people wouldn't think it was me doing the posting since it wouldn't have the cross-server symbol. Believe what you want all I can tell you is I didn't make this up.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

THIS 100%

It also proves just how efficient this game's duty finder is for most of the content. Obviously not always the case but if you notice, a lot of PF groups have very specific goals and attachments for wanting to form the group.

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Yeah I've only ever heard of PF being used for statics, farms, and RP announcements. And there is waaaay more in the game than just that stuff.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Anything to keep player engagement levels up.
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Do you see where I'm coming from?
The content that we used to get was long lasting content, that even to this day is still active.
The content we are getting now stagnates within a single patch and is not even remotely worth the time investment.

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A good first attempt at a response.

If you're suggesting that you like Eureka and would like to see more done exactly like it, what, in particular, keeps you going back week after week, five years after its release?

Wasn't it specifically geared towards the Stormblood Relic Weapon grind? It doesn't seem like something that many players would actively seek after the release of the next expansion, but then again, there are plenty of people working through Hunt Trains to this day.

What you've described isn't particularly long-lasting content, to my mind. It's content that specifically interests you. And that's fine. It's just that interest in similar content in Shadowbringers appears to have died out after the release of Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

And yet there they are. My guess is it was a DPS that wasn't finding people to do it with in DF. I left the little flower so people wouldn't think it was me doing the posting since it wouldn't have the cross-server symbol. Believe what you want all I can tell you is I didn't make this up.

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It's not so much that I think you are making it up, I just am surprised that player is doing it. You are almost certainly going to get a group for a normal level 20-something dungeon via pugging in DF way faster than you will using PF, even if DF's queue is long. Going on party finder for normal ARR dungeons is just so odd.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

THIS 100%

It also proves just how efficient this game's duty finder is for most of the content. Obviously not always the case but if you notice, a lot of PF groups have very specific goals and attachments for wanting to form the group.

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The DF isn't the issue. Everyone quit or is using trusts. That PF posting has the very specific goal of wanting company in an MMO, something hard to do when there isn't content to keep players engaged and when the game just pushes you to do the content with bots instead of people.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The DF isn't the issue. Everyone quit or is using trusts. That PF posting has the very specific goal of wanting company in an MMO, something hard to do when there isn't content to keep players engaged and when the game just pushes you to do the content with bots instead of people.

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"everyone quit"? That seems hyperbolic. Does DF not produce parties on Excalibur or something?

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The DF isn't the issue. Everyone quit or is using trusts. That PF posting has the very specific goal of wanting company in an MMO, something hard to do when there isn't content to keep players engaged and when the game just pushes you to do the content with bots instead of people.

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Trust me, you DONT have to use PF to get a player group to run an msq dungeon. I play alts in this game, and I have one currently in base ARR and for the last few weeks Ive been using DF just as always to get some people to do the dungeons with no problem at all.

The person probably was caught doing it at a bad hour or didnt think to use DF to forming a group because they believed that nobody would be running it because of trusts...which is absolutely stupid because the dungeon is part of the roulette pool so it'll always have people running it anyway.

Just took a peep at primal, as of this minute 1 dungeon, 6 trials, 5 raids,16 high-end,1 FATE,1 field op and 50 other, yup totally "dead" :p

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

The person probably was caught doing it at a bad hour or didnt think to use DF to forming a group because they believed that nobody would be running it because of trusts...

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I mean, if Saturday afternoon is a bad hour we got problems....

Meanwhile, on Dynamis.


JFC we have 1 raid up and 15 "other"


Breaking news: We just got one more in the raid tab, what a time to be alive.