Endwalker Story Sucks!

Endwalker ruined the game for me. Story sucks!

Yes, same.
Don't be afraid to speak out, your opinion is as valid as the opinion of people who liked it.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

Yes, same.
Don't be afraid to speak out, your opinion is as valid as the opinion of people who liked it.

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Fair comment - but a few lines pertaining to why the OP holds said opinion might have been helpful.

So sorry to hear about your disillusionment with the game.

Is this a "I'm going to stop playing" thread, or a "please do better" thread, or the ever popular "I just want to get my 15 minutes of fame" thread?

Personally, I do not look for Great Literature in a video game, but having played through the current story line a few times, I find it no worse than any other expansion, better than <insert favorite expansion here> and the inspiration for the longest thread I've encountered in the past few years (yes, even longer than the complaint about the lack of male Viera) that is now, what, in the 700+ pages for comments. I will admit that I stopped reading that thread around the point the original poster provided their version of Garlean fan fiction as what "should have been the story".

Definitely a "please do better" thread. Something more along the line of Stormblood, which I loved. In fact, I think I will replay Stormblood just to get the bad taste out of my mouth!

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Fair comment - but a few lines pertaining to why the OP holds said opinion might have been helpful.

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Depressing, makes no sense, and just not fun. I prefer to play a game that is actually fun.

It's supposed to be depressing though. It's supposed to get you into a mind set of how it feels like there is no hope. I mean you literally go and fight the embodiment of despair at the far reaches of space. Now, that's not to say you can't pepper in some light hearted moments as sometimes you need to be reminded that you can still find a ray of sunshine even what might feel like your darkest hour. What about Stormblood makes you feel It's better or less depressing? As many find war and the harshness one can find there just as depressing as seeing a child be turned into a foul beast only to be stomped to death a few seconds later by different beast. You're not really giving us much to go on as to what you felt were the non fun parts.

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Originally Posted by AsunaSha

Definitely a "please do better" thread. Something more along the line of Stormblood, which I loved. In fact, I think I will replay Stormblood just to get the bad taste out of my mouth!

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Every expansion has so far gone for essentially a very different thing, so yeah, it makes sense that someone who loved Stormblood wasn't a big fan of Endwalker; they're entirely different stories that appeal in different ways.

That doesn't mean Endwalker is bad, and you're not really providing any actual discussion points so I'm not inclined to listen to you any further.

That's your provocative, but just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it sucks. It's okay to not like something, but just be wary posting a one-note thread is going to have backlash from people who do like and enjoy the story. That's just how stories are. Entirely subjective. Stormblood was the weakest of all expansions for me and the worst, so...

Its actually my second favourites expansion, just behind Shadowbringers. I love its themes of hope and loss, characters like Venat and the story which took us to beautiful zones like Garlemald and the friking moon! Each to their own though, would be boring if we all agreed on what we liked. I do hope the comment about Stormblood is genuine. It may not be perfect but its a lot better then people give it credit for. Think I count it just above Heavensward actually.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

Don't be afraid to speak out, your opinion is as valid as the opinion of people who liked it.

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I mean, I agree with that statement 100% though it surprises me when people say that because… especially compared to elsewhere, criticising Endwalker seems to be an accepted practise on these forums. Sure many disagree, but there are plenty here who dislike/venomously hate it. Cannot say I have seen anywhere else have people cite the Genocide Convention of genocide to critize the game or a character.

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Originally Posted by Kazemon15

That's your provocative, but just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it sucks. It's okay to not like something, but just be wary posting a one-note thread is going to have backlash from people who do like and enjoy the story. That's just how stories are. Entirely subjective. Stormblood was the weakest of all expansions for me and the worst, so...

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You mean prerogative. Not trying to be mean or nothin' Just uhh, entirely different words. Though yeah, it is kind of a provocative thread. Especially since it doesn't pertain to lore.

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If bait thread: 3/10 bait - too obvious

If real: Well that's just like your opinion man

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Originally Posted by Gojin

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Might not have discovered the forums until now, or ignored them, or just lurked. You need to join to post. It's probable that the OP never felt like writing in a thread here until now.

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Originally Posted by AsunaSha

Definitely a "please do better" thread. Something more along the line of Stormblood, which I loved. In fact, I think I will replay Stormblood just to get the bad taste out of my mouth!

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Its funny, considering that general consesnsus in the community is that story-wise Stormblood was the worst out of the four expansions, lol.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Might not have discovered the forums until now, or ignored them, or just lurked. You need to join to post. It's probable that the OP never felt like writing in a thread here until now.

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They posted in this thread three times in one day and then dipped, I think we can be fairly confident at this point that they did not genuinely want to have any sort of discussion.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

Its actually my second favourites expansion, just behind Shadowbringers. I love its themes of hope and loss, characters like Venat and the story which took us to beautiful zones like Garlemald and the friking moon! Each to their own though, would be boring if we all agreed on what we liked. I do hope the comment about Stormblood is genuine. It may not be perfect but its a lot better then people give it credit for. Think I count it just above Heavensward actually.



I mean, I agree with that statement 100% though it surprises me when people say that because… especially compared to elsewhere, criticising Endwalker seems to be an accepted practise on these forums. Sure many disagree, but there are plenty here who dislike/venomously hate it. Cannot say I have seen anywhere else have people cite the Genocide Convention of genocide to critize the game or a character.

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people on twitter very much do the genocide route to criticize a certain character. and they do it a lot to where having a normal opinion about said character gets you told you agree with genocide or something dumb like that. there was also some vitriol from someone about hermes that really i would rather not repeat, but what they said was awkward at best. while the venomously hatred for EW seems to be lower on twitter than here, the hate for venat and hermes is very much higher and in ways i cannot repeat.

Venat is just Nagito Komaeda if he was a woman, had divine powers and knew about Meteion.

What in particular did you like in Stormblood that you didn't find in EW? In descending order, my favorite expansion to my least.

Shadowbringers
Endwalker
Heavensward
Stormblood
ARR

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

They posted in this thread three times in one day and then dipped, I think we can be fairly confident at this point that they did not genuinely want to have any sort of discussion.

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So, everyone who posts on these forums has to genuinely want to have a discussion? Pffffftttt.

A rant is a rant.

Depressing huh. I thought the stuff we learned in EW was actually kinda beautiful.

Like in a "hope never dies" kind of way! But it's not worse or better than other expacs imho. It's just fine for an MMORPG :P

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

So, everyone who posts on these forums has to genuinely want to have a discussion? Pffffftttt.

A rant is a rant.

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They wrote seven sentences including zero points, and let's be honest, calling some of them full sentences is being generous.

That's not even a rant, that's half-assed trolling. (In fact saying they used half an ass might, again, be generous)