Overtime is still in the game

Needs to be removed.

Removed not so much but at least a time limit like every other overtime in every other thing that has overtime ever. xD

I still find it sometimes unfair, what i mean is... I'll make a real example:
My party pushes the crystal to 49/50% (so almost till enemy base). There we keep killing enemies, really, we are teoretically dominating but unable to push the crystal more than that (i mean, we do not die, but enemies keep coming and stalling)..
We stay there till time finishes.. then we all die (!edit: cause we exausted all our resources and cause near their base enemies have position advantage, cause they are close to spawn).
The game goes in overtime while we are all dead and by the time we respawn enemies comes all the way till 50% and win.
This happened to me more than once, maybe 6-7 times out of 200 matches...

Disclaimer: i know we could and probably should have done better, in fact this not happens often but still.. isn't it stupid when it happens?
It almost makes me want to do it ON POURPOSE cause it seems a very silly but nice strategy to pull out..

Still in the game.

Remove it.

OT is definitely the low point of the mode. It needs to be changed somehow for sure.

Overtime activates when at least one player from the team with less progress stands on the point with time running out.

If you remove overtime completely then matches at some point are lost beyond saving when a team that can make a comeback doesn't have enough time to do so - it becomes needlessly intense.

Round ending as soon as all attacking players left the circle would just indirectly buff AOE displacement through the roof (Reaper LB, MCH shotgun, etc.). You can already win like this with a well-timed Reaper Hysteria, so thia wouldnt be fun either.

I wouldn't exactly add an artificial Overtime limit either for reasons like #1. Would make defensive stalling a bit obnoxious (Guard cycling) to deal with depending on your tools.

If anything, double or triple the respawn increases on death so it goes up by +3 per subsequent deaths. The trickle stall is what is actually annoying by it, so aim for that.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

The trickle stall is what is actually annoying by it, so aim for that.

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This is pretty much why I can't stand it. Trickle in long enough, especially with LB's like DRK and PLD and then add in shields from a sage etc... OT just becomes stupid annoying.

OT is a necessary mechanic, but how it functions right now is annoying.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

This is pretty much why I can't stand it. Trickle in long enough, especially with LB's like DRK and PLD and then add in shields from a sage etc... OT just becomes stupid annoying.

OT is a necessary mechanic, but how it functions right now is annoying.

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The DRK and PLD LB is also a showcase why LBs should not charge with time but rather with performance tbh. Too easy to get in my opinion.

It's an issue because the regulation period is short enough for most matches to be stalled into overtime, even though overtime generally isn't supposed to be common.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Round ending as soon as all attacking players left the circle would just indirectly buff AOE displacement through the roof (Reaper LB, MCH shotgun, etc.). You can already win like this with a well-timed Reaper Hysteria, so thia wouldnt be fun either.

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This is already the case, the overtime timer is timed to server ticks (or an actor tick tied to the standard timer when it ends that starts ticking right at 0s, but same, it seems tied to ticks either way). Sometimes it immediately ends when you push everybody out, sometimes it doesn't. I don't count the amount of games I have ended immediately with scattergun. It's badly designed.

( please note that i'm not advocating for or against the removal of overtime )

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

The DRK and PLD LB is also a showcase why LBs should not charge with time but rather with performance tbh. Too easy to get in my opinion.

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I understand the complaint behind but pushing LB generation behind performance (what performance? damage? damage eaten? heals?) would inflate dramatically snowballing in the mode, which is already pretty dire. If the defending team loses the LB advantage, the comebacks are even harder and better throw the towel without even finishing the match when all the enemies have their full LBs all the time while your team gets nothing. The seconds lost on respawn are already pretty hefty on their own.

Then I guess it can also be a design concept, just make the games that are lost end faster? bleh

I've had games turn around enough times and I have also turned around games enough to make the OT exciting.
But it does absolutely need a time limit.

Maybe start spawning the field mechanics more often at an increasing pace until people just get KOed more often that'll result in both teams just falling over so the currently dominant team would get the win after like 2 mins of OT.
And for the map without field hazards perhaps just drop Odin down and he slow casts Zantetsuken or something lol.

They could simply make it during Overtime respawns are set at 20 seconds to prevent the Guard stagger of overtime. Or during Overtime when you respawn, Guard is automatically put on a 10 second cooldown to prevent the people rushing in from respawn just popping it.

Or no respawn at overtime. turn it into deathmatch at that point

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Or no respawn at overtime. turn it into deathmatch at that point

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Eh I mean, yes it'd be nice but also if you have the upper hand regarding the crystal but just so happen to be in a quick string of deaths and OT starts but you've only got 2 alive at that time, there's no real saving you. And the point of overtime was to be able to turn around the game.... I think.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

Or no respawn at overtime. turn it into deathmatch at that point

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2 pld holding 8 people hostage