Adventure Portraits for Groups - Broken?

After making sure that all of my plates are set and working properly, every time I go into a dungeon, trial or raid, my plate keeps getting reset to default. Is the system broken or is something else going on? I keep getting a message saying its reverted me to the default portrait. My character animation is just my character in my AF gear with a smile, nothing bad. All the groups I have been in have had everybody in default poses as well.

Anybody else having these issues?

Edit: Error Message: Instant portrait reverted to default. Current appearance and/or gear does not match that shown in portrait.

P.S. It does...

Edit: Here is my plate that keeps getting reset to default
https://i.imgur.com/EooxfmMt.png

seems to be something with updating the portrait itself.., also with showing actual gear.
it's ridiculous.
just go into the portrait of said class, edit, then save(no need to adjust things)
should work if that's all you did..,
ridiculous

I'll have to see how that works. It'd be a shame if this was broken already, though given what we've seen in the past it wouldn't surprise me much.

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

seems to be something with updating the portrait itself.., also with showing actual gear.
it's ridiculous.
just go into the portrait of said class, edit, then save(no need to adjust things)
should work if that's all you did..,
ridiculous

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So wait, each time I update my gear, I must update the damn portraits? I’ll just turn it off if so……

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

So wait, each time I update my gear, I must update the damn portraits? I’ll just turn it off if so……

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If you set adventurer plate portrait, you can import settings to any gear portrait with one click, which is a quick way to update it. There is also 'reflect gear' button. But yes, any change in glamour or gear will require portrait to be updated in some way to actually continue working. Unless portrait reflects 'current gear' it is not viable.

I already went back and resaved all the pictures to clear the error messages, but I still get reverted to the default ID card look. Still bugged, at least for me.

Edit: Here is my plate that keeps getting reset to default
https://i.imgur.com/EooxfmMt.png

Hopefully they fix it soon..,
Beta was ironically its right out of the box state.., I didn't bother messing with it during full release til I can get my OG plate.

Who cares even if you couldn't see people's face.., buy either ways

It seems the portrait tied to a gearset has to be exactly the way you look at the time you enter instances? You can't even have the helm hidden in the portrait but show it while in the instance.

I hope they at least put in an option to just automatically reflect the gear (and glamour) we were wearing, but keep the backgrounds, angles, camera settings and decorations we set up. This is beyond a hassle and just plain bad UX.

it's like low level weapons not being able to be glamed with high level weapons..,
shouldn't be a thing.
<not even from a code form>

You can have an Advent Plate with different outfit, but apparently can't with the gearset.

Been having this issue too, even if I use the reflect gear button. Any way to turn this feature off?

you're supposed to update it per class right
Not just the portrait on the plate?

I'm having the same issue. It seems like it just refuses to properly update what items are equipped for a particular plate, and claims it's fine when I save it. But whenever I join a duty that wants to use my plate it complains that my gear doesn't match and will instead use the default. Maybe I'm missing something, but I cannot figure out how to force it to update a plate with what I actually currently have equipped and glammed.

Ironically, the original beta implementation of the system was vastly better than its current state. I don't get why they feel the need to force gear restrictions on everything and can't just let us use our adventure portrait for all instant portraits.

Basically, you have to update your gearset to whatever change you make. Then, go to the Portraits menu, and any that has a yellow warning is one you need to update. Just edit it and save it instantly if there aren't any major changes you want them to make.

If they don't match your glamour or options (like visor or headgear staying hidden), it's because you didn't update the gearset. Go do that. Then come back, edit, and save.

Now, why is this menu still a hot mess of user-end software design despite its alleged "Beta" phase having passed and we've had the current system more than one patch cycle?

I've noticed that sometimes it takes a couple of minutes to fully update the portrait, even if it's for something as simple as a color change to one piece of gear. I'm not sure if that's related, but that was a thing before the patch as well. Maybe that is playing a part in this or something. The portrait thing is finicky. Even the slightest change can make your portrait show up as the default. You have to keep it updated by going into edit mode constantly which is honestly pretty annoying.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Basically, you have to update your gearset to whatever change you make. Then, go to the Portraits menu, and any that has a yellow warning is one you need to update. Just edit it and save it instantly if there aren't any major changes you want them to make.

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That did it, thanks.

Nowhere in any of the tooltips does it actually explain that your gearsets have to be 100% up to date with what you currently have equipped, and that any slight modification to them will break the adventure plate. It used to just snapshot whatever you currently had equipped if you told it to update, which IMO was vastly more user friendly of a method. The way it works now just makes it even more of a chore to deal with.

My static save for one person has done everything we can think of and we are still having the default error messages.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

My static save for one person has done everything we can think of and we are still having the default error messages.

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As Midareyukki explained, you need to make sure that each gearset is up to date with your exact currently equipped gear and their exact glamours, which you have to do in the character menu with the "Update Gear Set" button. Then you have to go back into the adventure plate menu to modify and resave the associated gearset plate to make it update with the correct gear/glamour.

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Originally Posted by Xylira

As Midareyukki explained, you need to make sure that each gearset is up to date with your exact currently equipped gear and their exact glamours, which you have to do in the character menu with the "Update Gear Set" button. Then you have to go back into the adventure plate menu to modify and resave the associated gearset plate to make it update with the correct gear/glamour.

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I tried all of that and its still getting set to defaults, the only thing I can think of is that it doesn't like my pose. (see top of thread for photo)

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

I tried all of that and its still getting set to defaults, the only thing I can think of is that it doesn't like my pose. (see top of thread for photo)

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Only way I know how to help would be to know how the Portraits Menu displays that portrait (does it have a yellow triangle?) looks like and whether the gearset you're using is updated (if it has a gray triangle, it will cause troubles).

I really can't think of anything else...

Twelve forfend, this whole system is a mess.

You need to update your portraits if you make even the slightest change to your character... Hiding helmet, hiding sheathed weapons, Changing any piece of gear even if you glamour it to what was on the plate.

I did at one point when grinding PvP for the Fylgja mount in 6.2 find that sometimes it refuses to show even if everything is correct and you need to make a change to your gear, save the portrait, then change everything back and save it again for it to work. For apparently no reason other than the plate system is about the least stable system in the game.

It is mildly frustrating.

- Link Glamor Plate to ur Gear Set (not sure if its Mandatory, prob activate glam once is enough, but any reglam may broke it)
- Adjust Weapon/Hat/Visor Display
- Save Gear Set if save button is Active
- Switch to any Gear Set (if u have many)
- Switch back to ur Gear Set
- (Optional) Import ur portrait
- Open portrait to Edit, change background back and forward, to unlock "save" button, and press Save
- Now dont touch Weapon/Hat/Visor Display

now u prob good to go

I figured it out!

I was using a glamour plate that was generic so I could switch the look between multiple characters, this was the problem. The current portrait set totally malfunctions if you do not have every single slot filled with the same glamour piece.

This is my generic glamour plate:
https://i.imgur.com/heEocZd.png

As you can see, several slots are empty because I use it on multiple jobs and didn't see the need to fill the slots, just the items I wanted the glamour to change.

This is the plate I updated which works properly
https://i.imgur.com/CpkYbf1.png

With every slot filled so it matches everything 100%, then it works properly.

In my opinion, this is an oversight and should be corrected, they should allow for generic cross job plates as I have lots of glamours and I do not want to spend a plate on every single job I want to show properly. For now, I will just have to accept that all my jobs save for WHM and DNC will have a drivers license style image until this can be fixed.

Thanks for the help everybody and hope this helps more people in the future! ^_^

Something isn't right with it. I had made sure a couple times that my portrait for my gearset was updated and saved (no option/reason to "save") only to load into the instance with the generic blank-stare plate. If this had ever happened in Crystaline Conflict, it was always about having a change in my gearset and not edit>saving it beforehand. The few times it has happened after the patch went live for dungeon/trial/raid portraits, I had made sure nothing had changed and it still managed to only show the default portrait.

Mind you, its worked a few times as well, but I can't think of anything that might have been different. If I had to guess, changing jobs outside of a sanctuary and then queueing might have been the problem, but I haven't tested it. Though that's never been a problem for CC portraits.

Honestly, this whole glamour plate and portrait system has been a mess that makes me just want to chalk it up to the "1.0 spaghetti code" meme due to how convoluted its implementation has been and temperamental the restrictions and errors are. It's like how back in the day we had to craft a different glamour prism for every single piece of gear from its corresponding DoH in 10 level increments (like Dark Matter) if you wanted to cast just 1 single glamour on something. The solution seems simple, but the devs always seem to program it in a way where you have to jump through hoops first. Its old.

yeah, I've decided to make a outfit for each role if I can.
I feel like I can just glam the weapon and then just edit-/>save the portrait with it, in it. though I'll have to check in a roulette. since I've been PVPing the entire day.

Another Reason why Gear shouldn't be locked when it's used as Glamour/Armoired/Dressered.
<unless they're planning to do something about it.., but that's just shooting from the hip to believe that.>

You can almost say.., In an effort to avoid doing something else, they've taken a longer and more difficult path.[sure it may be grand as they imagine/design it]
Only to not be doing well.., but not feeling any good either.

There's has to be no doubt that they know of these issues, since I doubt JP/EU/OCE are fine with this.

maybe they just thought we'd fire and forget the plates/glamours/portraits.., but as consumers/players we will always be adjusting it, till its perfect.

So does every portrait need to be up to day for it to display correctly or just the portrait for the job you are currently using? The one I was using was up to date and saved but still fails to show, however I didn't bother updating the other portraits.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

So does every portrait need to be up to day for it to display correctly or just the portrait for the job you are currently using? The one I was using was up to date and saved but still fails to show, however I didn't bother updating the other portraits.

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I had the same issue you're having. You need to update any with a yellow warning mark, and it should work. After you get it to work, you can make changes all day to existing portraits, and it will reflect those changes in the duty. However, if you make even the slightest change to your character's appearance, you will need to go back to the corresponding portrait, update it, and then save it again.

It is a bit cumbersome and convoluted, but once you figure it out it's pretty easy to manipulate.

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Originally Posted by Remolia

- Link Glamor Plate to ur Gear Set (not sure if its Mandatory, prob activate glam once is enough, but any reglam may broke it)
- Adjust Weapon/Hat/Visor Display
- Save Gear Set if save button is Active
- Switch to any Gear Set (if u have many)
- Switch back to ur Gear Set
- (Optional) Import ur portrait
- Open portrait to Edit, change background back and forward, to unlock "save" button, and press Save
- Now dont touch Weapon/Hat/Visor Display

now u prob good to go

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To add to the last part:

Don't have a glamour plate with a weapon other jobs can't wear, that also breaks the portrait

Basically, the portraits break every time you do anything on your gear, including glamouring an unseeable weapon over your weapon

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

So does every portrait need to be up to day for it to display correctly or just the portrait for the job you are currently using? The one I was using was up to date and saved but still fails to show, however I didn't bother updating the other portraits.

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Every time you touch anything on your gear, you have to update your gearset
Then go into character-portrait-edit (you don't have to change anything) - save

It's... a whole process....

You need basically:
1. To ensure the gearset is updated & saved without errors (Yellow marker/Red marker). If you change glamour, dye, extract materia, attach materia, the gearset needs to be saved again since it has been "updated".
2. Then, you go into portraits, ensure you untoggle instant-off to instant-on, and reflect gear / save the portrait. This way, the portrait can confirm the gearset is updated and the look is updated to the most recent form.

Ideally, there should be changes where:
1. the instant portrait should still work even if the portrait does not match the gearset, and if there's a change in the old gearset, the portrait will simply let you know with a yellow marker. That way, there's no hassle with changing portraits over and over if they were extracting materia and the like.
2. Additionally, there can be another option to automatically reflect new outfit look whenever a gearset is saved, thereby saving the player the hassle of constantly updating the portrait each time they change glamour. It would be best to put a option on each individual portrait and an option to enable all portraits to automatically update. That way, players who prefer the old portrait will not have any conflicts with those who want new ones.

I feel like placing these restrictions on portraits was way more cumbersome programming wise than just letting us take a portrait and displaying that image.

Either force us to always show our current appearance in the portrait, and automatically have the portrait reflect it

OR

Let us save an appearance to a portrait even if it differs from how we currently look, so that the portrait design complements the gear we wish to display in it.

Just pick one. This new portrait system where it reverts to default every 2 seconds combines the worst parts of both designs. You are forced to show current gear in your portrait AND you are forced to edit the plate every time you want to change the gear showing in your portrait.