Is this meant to be an action game?

I was reading another thread, and rather than hijack it I thought I start new one.

It was brought up that other game (like WoW?) are 'twitchy'. I take it that there are other MMORPGs that are all quick button bashing reflex using much like arcade games?

Is that what is the route for FFXIV?

What I enjoyed about FFXI was its slower combat pace (more emphasis on strategy and less on how fast you hit a button).

I am curious if FFXIV will go the way of an action/arcade game with emphasis on how fast you hit things.

It does certainly not looks like it's going to be a twichy reflex-based game. Right now, I think that even the most position-based issues give you a semi-decent reaction time (even if I cannot for the life of me run from Ifrit's explosions).

No the game wont be your action pack swinging missing type thing like TERA/GW2, its more focused on strategy, trinity and tab targetting.

They already said you cant jump to dodge things, once you're locked into that target list you're getting hit.

I think it will stay very structure based, like ff12.

a game of this caliber is actually quite refreshing in the age of twitch. it has just enough movement and re-positioning without being too over the top. I can tell you having played Tera, Vindictus, Dragon Nest that all that fast action gets boring quick. I'm happy that we can marathon/kite and sometimes use terrain to our advantage. can't wait til the add in direct enfeebles (bind, slow) and maybe some small CC timer overrides

It's not a action game anymore, the people who wanted XI 2 made sure of that

I enjoy both type of game (TERA) and (GW2 have pseudo evading), FFXIV however doesn't need this type of streamlining imo, min-maxing stats with gears is part of the fun in this game. While yes people might argue you have more skill if you can dodge stuff, you also have skill if u have brain and play while striving optimization in this game.

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

It's not a action game anymore, the people who wanted XI 2 made sure of that

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When was it an action game o.o?

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

It's not a action game anymore, the people who wanted XI 2 made sure of that

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Oh? So our final storyline boss was Shadowlord? Could have sworn I fought against the Garleans, not the Shaowlord and Zilartian Brothers. Guess I missed out :D

Yes this isn't an action based MMO and won't be.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

I enjoy both type of game (TERA) and (GW2 have pseudo evading), FFXIV however doesn't need this type of streamlining imo, min-maxing stats with gears is part of the fun in this game. While yes people might argue you have more skill if you can dodge stuff, you also have skill if u have brain and play while striving optimization in this game.

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Until they create Add-ons that does the dodging for you, that is.

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Originally Posted by Firon

When was it an action game o.o?

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Some people confuse setting one of those drinky birds to hit the 1 key with action.

more emphasis on strategy in ffxi? if by that you mean emphasis on one of three basic fight mechanics, okay.

i'm not trying to be rude, but do you know anything at all about WoW endgame?

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Originally Posted by fusional

but do you know anything at all about WoW endgame?

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Make sure you have a,b,c and x,y,z plugins, you mean?

@OP, Why just cant we have the best of the two worlds instead just have to pick one? i like more the strategy, but i must admit there would be alot of stuff be taken from action games i would like get implemented here too.

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Originally Posted by fusional

more emphasis on strategy in ffxi? if by that you mean emphasis on one of three basic fight mechanics, okay.

i'm not trying to be rude, but do you know anything at all about WoW endgame?

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Don't be silly, Ifrit requires miles more strategy and coordination than things like Anub'arak HM or Yogg HM!

/cough

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

It's not a action game anymore, the people who wanted XI 2 made sure of that

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Funny, many of the people that didn't want action-oriented combat and wanted auto-attack were "casual" players; many that have wanted "FFXI-2" didn't want auto-attack to return and preferred that SE improved the combat system without it.

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Originally Posted by Keres

Don't be silly, Ifrit requires miles more strategy and coordination than things like Anub'arak HM or Yogg HM!

/cough

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True story.. as i saind in mine topic, the greatest problem is that ppl only played XI endgame, and don't really have an idea of what "hard" could be. (omg how i hated yogg and anub xD)

To answer the OP, I wonder about it sometimes.

At launch, with the stamina, I think it was intended to be a blend. Choosing an assortment of commands to attack, being able to manually raise our shield, many of the weapon skills had to be aimed and could be dodged. Perhaps a slower-paced battle system of FF13.

I would have liked to see the pacing of a FF13/FF13-2 fight. I think for me, the combat could be about 25% faster. The lower levels (brand new player perspective), this is more noticeable with less actions to choose from. Perhaps the 0.5 to 1 second lag between actions may play a role in this feeling of responsiveness as well. You get used it after a while.

Action game? XIV has a pretty typical MMO battle system. Only deal is the UI is so slow that it takes forever to register commands, making the combat itself much slower than other auto-attack MMOs. I like twitchy games but you don't really need fast reactions for this just preparation. Like it's easy to react to Ifrit's eruptions or Moogle Eye Shot if you aren't animation locked.

Kinda glad the game is so slow because like I said, the UI wouldn't be able to deal with anything that needs fast reactions.

I like the slower pace of this game and I hope it doesn't get all twitchy on me. If I wanted that I would be playing something else.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

To answer the OP, I wonder about it sometimes.

At launch, with the stamina, I think it was intended to be a blend. Choosing an assortment of commands to attack, being able to manually raise our shield, many of the weapon skills had to be aimed and could be dodged. Perhaps a slower-paced battle system of FF13.

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Spamming your normal attack until you had enough tp to weaponskill is a lot less action than the current combat system. Not sure what other attack commands were in your "assortment" but it was basically an auto-attack that required confirmation every swing. Having to position yourself for combos, especially while solo, is a lot more fun, and frustrating at times, than spamming normal swing in my opinion.

As for the dodging of enemy weaponskills, that hasn't changed. I'm fairly certain that none of the directional weaponskills were taken out, maybe you just don't know which ones are possible to dodge.

skillful play. not hack & slash