All of Marilith's Sprouts are bots

Do they ignore this issue universally, or do they not care about the NA servers they just put up? lol

https://i.imgur.com/XomvOGE.png

They ban them every 2 weeks.

These bots are creepy. Same level/job/glamour, gibberish names, they don't speak naturally, and they all stand next to each other (when they're not busy phasing through the ground). It's like an episode of The Twilight Zone.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They ban them every 2 weeks.

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Sure, but that ban wave was yesterday. Unfortunately I can't see their Achievements to actually tell when they were created.

It's out of control, I keep seeing these people teleporting everywhere. They pop into the Grand Company and do mass turn-ins, probably for minions and mounts.

Also, we can say "Yeah they probably made these yesterday" - But pretty unlikely.. I've watched this same group level up for weeks. I don't see newbie clothing anymore teleporting everywhere like I did the first week of Marilith. I see them all geared now, pretty sure it's the same set of bots.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They ban them every 2 weeks.

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Which achieves nothing since the source remains. So yes, they do indeed ignore the issue.

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

Which achieves nothing since the source remains. So yes, they do indeed ignore the issue.

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The one thing I've learned from 18ish years on the internet is you cant get rid of bots. Social media has bots, games have bots. The only way to stop it is to stop your service.

As long free trial exists the issue regarding to hack/cheating/rmt will never going to be solved.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

As long free trial exists the issue regarding to hack/cheating/rmt will never going to be solved.

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Free trial cant trade/hold more than 300k/join an FC to put gil in the bank so its not really that that does it.



Its probably mostly phished accounts and credit card fraud that does it.

Playerbase: Please get rid of these bots, they keep coming back!
SE: ...They payed for HOW many game keys?! And the first month?! :^D

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Playerbase: Please get rid of these bots, they keep coming back!
SE: ...They payed for HOW many game keys?! And the first month?! :^D

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a lot of those "paid" game keys get charged back due to them being stolen credit cards. its exactly why they changed their mogstation gifting system.

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Originally Posted by Zomkei

a lot of those "paid" game keys get charged back due to them being stolen credit cards. its exactly why they changed their mogstation gifting system.

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True, but it's tossing a giant net into a school of fish. You don't need the entire school, just enough to justify the net~!

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

Which achieves nothing since the source remains. So yes, they do indeed ignore the issue.

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Then nuke all the servers. Cancelling FFXIV will solve the botting issue c:

Face it, bots are the cockroaches of the online world. No matter how much effort you put into getting rid of them, more always come. Its a never ending battle.

just remove the games from pc, and everything will be resolved

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Then nuke all the servers. Cancelling FFXIV will solve the botting issue c:

Face it, bots are the cockroaches of the online world. No matter how much effort you put into getting rid of them, more always come. Its a never ending battle.

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Very true. As long as players buy gil from RMT, bots will never cease to exist. SE can ban them all day. If people are making money by creating bots there was always be more.

easiest way to solve this would be to simply automate the RMT reports if the sprout is a trial user. if more than 5 people report them for RMT advertising and they're a trial sprout who hasn't completed their first dungeon (sash) then the game should just automatically "mute" them for 24 hours and disallow them from using any chat outside of instances.

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Originally Posted by R041

Do they ignore this issue universally, or do they not care about the NA servers they just put up? lol

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They ignore them universally.

All servers and all regions have the same lala-bard-bots.

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Originally Posted by R041

Do they ignore this issue universally, or do they not care about the NA servers they just put up? lol

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I have a sprout character on Marilith and I am not a bot. No not ALL sprouts are bots.

Just people being over dramatic about bots as always. The other day it was "these bots make me lag" now it's "all sprouts are bots". Both statements that have minimal research done and are likely wrong.
As others have said, there are always going to be bots as long as people buy their stuff.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Just people being over dramatic about bots as always. The other day it was "these bots make me lag" now it's "all sprouts are bots". Both statements that have minimal research done and are likely wrong.
As others have said, there are always going to be bots as long as people buy their stuff.

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You dont understand! Bots killed my grandma ok :'c

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Originally Posted by Denji

easiest way to solve this would be to simply automate the RMT reports if the sprout is a trial user. if more than 5 people report them for RMT advertising and they're a trial sprout who hasn't completed their first dungeon (sash) then the game should just automatically "mute" them for 24 hours and disallow them from using any chat outside of instances.

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The problem is that the average player is dumb at spotting bots.

I have been called a bot several times simply because I was mining for several hours in the same area. A low level area. (identified a gap in the market)

Two people called me a bot who was ruining the game.

I have no issues with bots as long as they aren't lalafells, I feel like this is why people are so against them.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The irony here is that is just as discriminatory lol.

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Shh, I like seeing these types of people self immolate themselves.

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Originally Posted by Denji

easiest way to solve this would be to simply automate the RMT reports if the sprout is a trial user. if more than 5 people report them for RMT advertising and they're a trial sprout who hasn't completed their first dungeon (sash) then the game should just automatically "mute" them for 24 hours and disallow them from using any chat outside of instances.

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And what exactly gives us the right to do so?

People would abuse it. People would misuse it.

The only thing this would maybe clean up is advertisement bots anyways.

We could stop free trials to cut down on bots.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

We could stop free trials to cut down on bots.

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Free trials have zero impact on that.

A free trial cannot sell stuff to anything other than vendors.

A free trial cannot use the MB.

A free trial cannot hold more than 300,000 gil

A free trial cannot use retainers.

A free trial cannot trade.

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Originally Posted by Myrany

I have a sprout character on Marilith and I am not a bot. No not ALL sprouts are bots.

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Okay sure, it was a turn of phrase, but the majority of them were. Maybe you were one of the 5 on Page 2. But all of Page 1, and almost half of Page 2 were bots. Out of a total of.. 2 pages of Sprouts. lol

Also just checked right now, in what I'd consider a peak time for FF. 25/60 Sprouts are bots.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

Free trials have zero impact on that.
A free trial cannot sell stuff to anything other than vendors.
A free trial cannot use the MB.
A free trial cannot hold more than 300,000 gil
A free trial cannot use retainers.
A free trial cannot trade.

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What happens if you have 1 real account and 47 free trials doing a bunny fate?

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Originally Posted by Shibi

What happens if you have 1 real account and 47 free trials doing a bunny fate?

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Easy, trial accounts can't do bunny fates.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

Free trials have zero impact on that.

A free trial cannot sell stuff to anything other than vendors.

A free trial cannot use the MB.

A free trial cannot hold more than 300,000 gil

A free trial cannot use retainers.

A free trial cannot trade.

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Really? When they suspended free trail during EW launch, a lot of bots went MIA. Also, if you think they can't haven't figured out a way to get around some of those limitations I got some farmland in Florida to sell you.

Farming methods like this are why I'd be in favor of them just axing the gil drops from dungeons entirely.

They already stopped doing it after HW, so why not just purge it entirely and replace it with rewards that are still valuable but not as easily exploited for gil?

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Farming methods like this are why I'd be in favor of them just axing the gil drops from dungeons entirely.

They already stopped doing it after HW, so why not just purge it entirely and replace it with rewards that are still valuable but not as easily exploited for gil?

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I'd rather they didn't do that.

I have paid for all my ilvl610 gear just by doing dungeons whenever a healer is on the 'Adventurer in Need'.

It is my main source of income, and I enjoy healing.

Even if you don't mean the 'reward' at the end of the dungeon, the 76+ gil per mob dead starts to add up. That is a good 3,000 gil a dungeon. Add on adventurer in need, and it brings it up to 15k for a completion, plus whatever the boss drops.

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Originally Posted by R041

Do they ignore this issue universally, or do they not care about the NA servers they just put up? lol

https://i.imgur.com/XomvOGE.png

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Same thing that happened on OCE servers.

Even the same name structures convinces me its the same RMT botfarm as there.

Square enix do nothing about them, i have come to terms with it and stopped wasting my time sending reports to the non existent Special Task Force that deal with bots.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

I'd rather they didn't do that.

I have paid for all my ilvl610 gear just by doing dungeons whenever a healer is on the 'Adventurer in Need'.

It is my main source of income, and I enjoy healing.

Even if you don't mean the 'reward' at the end of the dungeon, the 76+ gil per mob dead starts to add up. That is a good 3,000 gil a dungeon. Add on adventurer in need, and it brings it up to 15k for a completion, plus whatever the boss drops.

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Jesus christ you could spend 2 minutes gathering and make more than 15k

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Jesus christ you could spend 2 minutes gathering and make more than 15k

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I like healing more than gathering though.

You also need these sources of gil generation for the economy.

As far as I know, people doing dungeons is the best way to generate new gil for the economy. Leves are limited. Quest rewards are paltry. Selling stuff to the NPCs takes an age to get anywhere close.

If you took away the ability to generate gil from dungeons, the in-game economy would suffer. You have less gil flowing in.

One day, when gatherers didn't have automatic stealth, I watched a constant stream of them trying ti mine a node right next to a higher level mob, which promptly killed every one of them. It was a most satisfying thing to see.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

I like healing more than gathering though.

You also need these sources of gil generation for the economy.

As far as I know, people doing dungeons is the best way to generate new gil for the economy. Leves are limited. Quest rewards are paltry. Selling stuff to the NPCs takes an age to get anywhere close.

If you took away the ability to generate gil from dungeons, the in-game economy would suffer. You have less gil flowing in.

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We don't need more new gil. I'm sitting on 120mil and I barely do anything these days.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

We don't need more new gil. I'm sitting on 120mil and I barely do anything these days.

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Cool. Good for you. Other people need gil.

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Originally Posted by PirateRyanG

Cool. Good for you. Other people need gil.

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If anyone can travel to Balmung...if I'm online and you need some gil just let me know. It's a useless currency to me so I'll spare whatever I have on me if I haven't already just given a bunch.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

We don't need more new gil. I'm sitting on 120mil and I barely do anything these days.

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Eat the rich.

Sure, inflation might be an issue, but you're also in the minority of players that has that much gil saved up.

I don't really have a solution, but I know that any solution that hurts the smaller players at the expense of players like yourself isn't worth it.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Eat the rich.

Sure, inflation might be an issue, but you're also in the minority of players that has that much gil saved up.

I don't really have a solution, but I know that any solution that hurts the smaller players at the expense of players like yourself isn't worth it.

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The game hands out gil like crazy. Its actually insane how much gil you can generate in a week not from player interactions.


We have no gil sinks, so inflation is insane.