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10-29-2022, 11:56 PM
VictorTheed

Bard Questions

I Just got Bard to 90 but I'm still learning.

Question 1 - what order should I play the 3 songs In, should I start with Wanderers Minuet, then when it's done play Mage's Ballad, then Army's Peon?

Question 2 - can I stack damage buffs for my party members if I play Battle voice then directly after play Radiant Finale, the lvl 90 skill, I think that's it's name, not sure.

Ty for your feedback or any tips on bard u might have that I didn't think to ask about.
10-30-2022, 12:04 AM
Bsrking5

Usually the recommended is wanderers, mage, army.

Yes? I don't see why you can't.

Remember you have free moment, try to avoid all unnecessary damage.
10-30-2022, 12:17 AM
ryouma17

song order isnt important just use whichever you want then pop the others as they come off cooldown
10-30-2022, 12:18 AM
Silvarer

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Originally Posted by VictorTheed

I Just got Bard to 90 but I'm still learning.

Question 1 - what order should I play the 3 songs In, should I start with Wanderers Minuet, then when it's done play Mage's Ballad, then Army's Peon?

Question 2 - can I stack damage buffs for my party members if I play Battle voice then directly after play Radiant Finale, the lvl 90 skill, I think that's it's name, not sure.

Ty for your feedback or any tips on bard u might have that I didn't think to ask about.

Yes, that’s the right song order and you should always use Battle Voice with Radiant Finale. You should also use Raging Strikes while you’re in Minuet. You should check out this website for more information on what our opening rotation is and the priorities we should keep in mind for procs:

https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/jobs...d/basic-guide/
10-30-2022, 12:28 AM
Jeeqbit

The answer depends on if it's single target or multi-target.

For a single target, I use Wanderers and Mage's, then Army's to fill in the gap.

For multiple targets, I use Mage's then Army's. Wanderers is just to fill in the gap.

The reason for all of this is because Wanderer's gives you single target procs, Mage's gives both single target and multi-target procs and Army's increases attack speed, which is more useful for multi-target than Wanderer's is.

It's considered good to stack damage buffs together because they are multiplicative (increase damage an extra amount when combined), to such an extent that entire parties coordinate using them at the same time. SE has made it so that they come off cooldown at the same time this expansion, so you don't have to worry about coordinating it very often anymore.
10-30-2022, 03:52 AM
FireMage

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

song order isnt important just use whichever you want then pop the others as they come off cooldown

This is beyond wrong
10-30-2022, 03:55 AM
Renalt

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The answer depends on if it's single target or multi-target.

For a single target, I use Wanderers and Mage's, then Army's to fill in the gap.

For multiple targets, I use Mage's then Army's. Wanderers is just to fill in the gap.

The reason for all of this is because Wanderer's gives you single target procs, Mage's gives both single target and multi-target procs and Army's increases attack speed, which is more useful for multi-target than Wanderer's is.

It's considered good to stack damage buffs together because they are multiplicative (increase damage an extra amount when combined), to such an extent that entire parties coordinate using them at the same time. SE has made it so that they come off cooldown at the same time this expansion, so you don't have to worry about coordinating it very often anymore.

This is generally what I do too.
10-30-2022, 04:08 AM
Ranaku

Here a quick guide for how to play bard:

1. Teleport to Limsa Lominsa

2. Unlock Dancer

3. Level up Dancer

4. Enjoy not being overhauled every expansion and nerfed to oblivion by SE.

5. Bonus step, stay far away from the machinist guild in Ishgard, they might look cool but it isn't worth the pain that comes with the job. SE will hate you for picking it.
10-30-2022, 04:18 AM
Renalt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranaku

Here a quick guide for how to play bard:

1. Teleport to Limsa Lominsa

2. Unlock Dancer

3. Level up Dancer

4. Enjoy not being overhauled every expansion and nerfed to oblivion by SE.

5. Bonus step, stay far away from the machinist guild in Ishgard, they might look cool but it isn't worth the pain that comes with the job. SE will hate you for picking it.

Now I wanna play MCH. I like playing underdog jobs.
10-30-2022, 04:20 AM
Ranaku

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Now I wanna play MCH. I like playing underdog jobs.

Well if you wanna look stylish MCH is the perfect job, i main it since HW when MCH was still a caster cause SE thought well all ranged damagedealers have to be casters...and yeah MCH was always about looking great while giving no contribution to the team. You are hated by everyone, SE and your teammates but yeah...at some point you just learn to own it!
10-30-2022, 04:35 AM
Renalt

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Well if you wanna look stylish MCH is the perfect job, i main it since HW when MCH was still a caster cause SE thought well all ranged damagedealers have to be casters...and yeah MCH was always about looking great while giving no contribution to the team. You are hated by everyone, SE and your teammates but yeah...at some point you just learn to own it!

So basically kinda like Killer Instinct when you are doing 30 hit combos but it stops registering damage after the 10th hit but you keep going cause you wanna style on some fools.

Meh I can dig it.
10-30-2022, 05:34 AM
Silvarer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranaku

Here a quick guide for how to play bard:

1. Teleport to Limsa Lominsa

2. Unlock Dancer

3. Level up Dancer

4. Enjoy not being overhauled every expansion and nerfed to oblivion by SE.

5. Bonus step, stay far away from the machinist guild in Ishgard, they might look cool but it isn't worth the pain that comes with the job. SE will hate you for picking it.

I tried playing dancer for awhile and enjoyed it, but then it just started to feel so much slower to me and the procs didn't come as often as Bard's when I hit 80. OP should definitely stick with Bard, the far superior class.
10-30-2022, 05:54 AM
Ranaku

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Originally Posted by Silvarer

I tried playing dancer for awhile and enjoyed it, but then it just started to feel so much slower to me and the procs didn't come as often as Bard's when I hit 80. OP should definitely stick with Bard, the far superior class.

Bard isn't as awful as MCH that is true but they share a problem, they get overhauled completely like every expansion by SE. Bet next expansion SE just removes all songs from bard and makes everything just passive buffs. I mean they made both of them casters for one expansion, then completely overhauled how the songs work and nerfed the dots to oblivion. Bard won't be safe in the future, no ranged dps is ever safe from SEs wrath they have for all the ranged dps players.