Probably a long shot...

Does anyone have any numbers for the Luminous Crystal drop rate for the Anima weapon? I've been bottlenecked at the beginning of this stupid quest chain for close to two months now, farming HW fates whenever I'm online and not in a dungeon. The breaking point was today, where I farmed over 30 fates in Azys Lla with nothing to show for it.

I've tried everything, from abandoning and restarting the quest, to begging friends to party up with me. I've gotten nothing less than gold on these fates. It's frustrating me to tears, I need numbers. (Or at the very least for someone to tell me I broke something and to give up lmao)

Is it possible you've already gotten the fire crystal from Azys lla? I'm checking because it would 100% be a me thing to think something like Wind dropped there and keep farming there because wind hadn't dropped-- when only fire drops.

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Is it possible you've already gotten the fire crystal from Azys lla? I'm checking because it would 100% be a me thing to think something like Wind dropped there and keep farming there because wind hadn't dropped-- when only fire drops.

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Definitely not, unfortunately. I've run an /isearch and i've only got luminous ice crystals.

It boils down to RNG. Just have to keep going till you get it. I don't know the exact drop rate to be able to give it to you, but I do remember it being a real slog at the time. I would hope they've improved the drop rates since then, but if not... well, woe unto you.

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It boils down to RNG. Just have to keep going till you get it. I don't know the exact drop rate to be able to give it to you, but I do remember it being a real slog at the time. I would hope they've improved the drop rates since then, but if not... well, woe unto you.

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I'd read that back in 2019 the drop rate was increased and people were getting it within 2-3 fates, and if not then at least within 5-10. This just feels absurd lol, I'm logging off for the night after having done like 7 more FATES with nothing dropping.

Firstly, for your sanity's sake, if you at any point intend to do the level 80 relic weapons then you want to have the first upgrade quest active while you are farming Heavensward FATEs, because those are one of the two ways you can earn the 60 memory crystals needed per weapon.

Secondly, are you definitely at the right stage of the Anima quest itself? The elemental crystals won't drop if the quest isn't active.

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I'd read that back in 2019 the drop rate was increased and people were getting it within 2-3 fates, and if not then at least within 5-10. This just feels absurd lol, I'm logging off for the night after having done like 7 more FATES with nothing dropping.

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Unfortunately it is completely RNG dependent. Seen reports of some people needing way more than 10 fates when their luck was particularly bad post-nerf. Having a couple quick ones and then one that takes longer isn't anything to worry about. I vaguely remember a couple of the crystals taking me a while too when I was working on my alts AST weapon.

Just make sure you have empty space in your inventory and if you want, put the crystals you've already gotten into your retainer so you don't have any on you. It *might* help cause I think the game drops your chance when you have more than a couple on you at a time (can't remember if this is Atma or Crystals but *shrug*).

Usually it only takes 1 or 2 fates, but sometimes it takes over 30. Just how "random" works.

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Just make sure you have empty space in your inventory and if you want, put the crystals you've already gotten into your retainer so you don't have any on you. It *might* help cause I think the game drops your chance when you have more than a couple on you at a time (can't remember if this is Atma or Crystals but *shrug*).

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the chance of a drop does not decrease if you have crystals in your inventory. it stays the same no matter what. unfortunately, that means there’s no way to increase your chances either. RNG is RNG, it took me literally 4 months to get a single atma (albeit back before nerf). just make sure you have the correct quest active, and if so, just keep trying.

its around 10-20% afaik

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the chance of a drop does not decrease if you have crystals in your inventory. it stays the same no matter what. unfortunately, that means there’s no way to increase your chances either. RNG is RNG, it took me literally 4 months to get a single atma (albeit back before nerf). just make sure you have the correct quest active, and if so, just keep trying.

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I'm gonna test this because I swear I used that for one of the two relics and it basically made first fate guaranteed afterwards.

Having done this recently, I would say my drop rate hovered around 25% - 33%. There was one outlier though where I had to do like 20 fates before I got a crystal. Since I was in a hurry and wanted to go to bed, that was when rng decided to roll super bad. But in general I got 6 crystals in about an hour, 90 minutes tops.

Are you getting absolutely NO crystals or just the wrong type. If none I would check if you already have what is needed from like a long time ago possibly. That or check if the quest is even active. The last thing it seems you must finish with a Gold Rating or it doesn't count.

If not the right type I know certain zones will give you certain types.

If the quest is just wonky you could trade in a Zeta relic to skip that step entirely. You will lose the Zeta weapon so make sure you don't like the look of it before you sacrifice it.

I don't have exact numbers but I did this not too long ago and the most was maybe 20 FATEs but much a lot less. They really increased the drop rate.

Stupid question time, is the quest active?

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I don't have exact numbers but I did this not too long ago and the most was maybe 20 FATEs but much a lot less. They really increased the drop rate.

Stupid question time, is the quest active?

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Yeah, the quest's active. In response to other suggestions, I've gotten no less than a gold, and I do have inventory space.

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Yeah, the quest's active. In response to other suggestions, I've gotten no less than a gold, and I do have inventory space.

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It can be quite a struggle with those crystals for some reason or another. I remember spending a couple of hours at least for a few of them, and still coming up with nothing. I would then take a break and come back later, and it would usually happen almost instantly. lol Lootcifer can be cruel, and he has a twisted sense of humor.

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If the quest is just wonky you could trade in a Zeta relic to skip that step entirely. You will lose the Zeta weapon so make sure you don't like the look of it before you sacrifice it.

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Tbf, this doesn't apply to the HW jobs.

I nearly suggested the same thing, but then realized.. I haven't actually started this with DRK/AST/MCH yet, and could see how this might be an issue.

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If the quest is just wonky you could trade in a Zeta relic to skip that step entirely. You will lose the Zeta weapon so make sure you don't like the look of it before you sacrifice it.

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I only remembered this *after* i tossed the Zeta weeks ago lol. Otherwise I'd've done it ;-;

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I only remembered this *after* i tossed the Zeta weeks ago lol. Otherwise I'd've done it ;-;

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That's rough buddy.

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I'm gonna test this because I swear I used that for one of the two relics and it basically made first fate guaranteed afterwards.

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that was a coincidence then. just to make sure, i even did some research to see if it, for some reason, was true, and nothing came up other than your post lol

you're the first person i've ever seen say that too, and i was there for when atma was current, and when HW was current. it's just pure RNG, you put it in your retainer, and you just got lucky the next fate.

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If the quest is just wonky you could trade in a Zeta relic to skip that step entirely. You will lose the Zeta weapon so make sure you don't like the look of it before you sacrifice it.

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you can get a replica of it, so you wont lose it (other than the stats)

I'd like to update everyone, after switching over to Maduin I went ahead and tried again. Got all of the crystals within an hour :/

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I'd like to update everyone, after switching over to Maduin I went ahead and tried again. Got all of the crystals within an hour :/

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I'm glad you finally got that all done.

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I'm glad you finally got that all done.

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It genuinely frustrated me ahah, I'd been stuck in one area for what amounts to hours of gameplay struggling to get a single crystal, yet the moment I switch servers everything's fine again. This game is gaslighting me!!!!! >:( /jk

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It genuinely frustrated me ahah, I'd been stuck in one area for what amounts to hours of gameplay struggling to get a single crystal, yet the moment I switch servers everything's fine again. This game is gaslighting me!!!!! >:( /jk

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It's a cool relic though. I got it for my PLD sword and WHM staff.

I realize this is awhile back but they have long since fixed that, they now stack and it goes faster when targeting the SOLO fate targets!

You have no idea how relieved I was when I figured that out!!!!!! you do not have to grind every fate until it drops, you only need the SOLO targets.