I would REALLY dig being able to make more changes at the Aesthetician...

I won't make this anything long-winded. I would just really appreciate being able to make other subtle changes at the barbershop, like being able to get *just* the right shade of skin or eye color. Sometimes when you're running around in-game, it just doesn't look quite how you envisioned.

I don't know about you guys, but for me, when I'm on the character-creation screen, I get sort of... "desensitized" to colors? Like, I'll stare at these different shades, and wonder "is my guy pale? is he dark? does he look natural, or have I just been staring at him for too long?"

What's funny is, I was actually pretty happy with how my character looked as a Raen... until I equipped my RPR Abyssos armor, and was horrified to see HOW prominent his "white scales/horns" were, and it completely shattered his whole "look".

In any case, I'd definitely appreciate it. It doesn't feel worthwhile to use a fantasia just to change his skin-tone or eye color by like one or two shades, especially if I waffle and think "actually it looked better before".

while the aesthetician can change your hairstyle, brow shape, eyebrows, head structure (in the case of hrothgar), scale placement on aura faces, limbal ring color for aura, add/remove tattoos and scars at will, letting the aesthetician change your skin color would be too taxing for him. please understand and look forward to changing your skin color for $10 when you realize you were a few shades off of the actual color you wanted.

Just give me eye color and i'll be happy
i get fantasias are a big part of their MTX income but it's kinda ridiculous to pay 10$ for a simple eye change

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

Just give me eye color and i'll be happy
i get fantasias are a big part of their MTX income but it's kinda ridiculous to pay 10$ for a simple eye change

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isn't your character wearing a blindfold

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Originally Posted by SylvAlternate

isn't your character wearing a blindfold

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They're really sick of their eye color.

By the way if you're unsure if how your character looks in-game and don't want to buy a fantasia to fix it, make an alt with that appearance and run around in the game world for a bit to see how it looks. Same with other stuff like battle voices as well.

I wish we could at least change eye colors. If you can change auras' circle thingy, why not simply allow us to change eye colors ?

I wish I could just give the two fantasias I have. I don't even know how I got them.

I NEED to change eyecolor. The only reason I play Au Ra is because with grey eyes you can lowkey change the eyecolor with the limbal rings...

Eyes and skin tones should be able to be modified.
Most people don't buy Fantasia to make small adjustments to their races, they do it to change races or gender.

I doubt it would affect the Fantasia sales much.

Eye lens is too much technology for Eorzea, please understand.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I wish I could just give the two fantasias I have. I don't even know how I got them.

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I would try to charm them off of you, but Kami knows that I would waste them both.

It is already tough picking the desired eye and skin color in this game, surely our Elezen friend could do something as simple as that, considering he can turn characters into a constant state of anger 24/7

I can definitely appreciate the fact that Fantasia sales are likely really important to the game. I doubt most people would even consider a Fantasia for *possibly* changing their skin or eye-color by one or two shades difference.

It also probably wouldn't be the end of the world to be able to adjust the other options, I would think. Again, sometimes it's hard to tell "do I like this nose?", because you can only REALLY judge your character, when they're talking to other NPC's and you can sort of compare the two.

I've definitely found myself playing a whole lot less here lately, and honestly, I think part of it is that I feel so apprehensive about using my Fantasia. I changed to Lalafell just to give it a go (it's funny, but it really does change the overall "experience" of the story), but as charming as my lil guy seems as a lala, a huge motivation for me is working towards that "coolest looking character possible". So whenever I use that Fantasia, I feel like I need to be absolutely certain on single single aspect of his appearance.

It's... kind of a lot of pressure. If the Aesthetician offered more options, though, I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable using fantasia's (ironically, probably a bit more often).

There's one time I want to fantasia into Au Ra so I can just change my eye color with Limbal Ring instead... :(

Ir would be nice to have those minor things added to the aesthetician… no matter what scenery you’re using, or how you rotate the lighting, there have been times I’ve changed eye color, and then saw myself in a cutscene and thought, wow that doesn’t look right! And yes I have fantasiaed over eye color before because I’m picky. lol luckily I got them on sale!

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Ir would be nice to have those minor things added to the aesthetician… no matter what scenery you’re using, or how you rotate the lighting, there have been times I’ve changed eye color, and then saw myself in a cutscene and thought, wow that doesn’t look right! And yes I have fantasiaed over eye color before because I’m picky. lol luckily I got them on sale!

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Speaking of which, goodness, they need to fix the lighting in the sceneries...

If Jandelaine can dye hair, he can change a few light bulbs.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I can definitely appreciate the fact that Fantasia sales are likely really important to the game. I doubt most people would even consider a Fantasia for *possibly* changing their skin or eye-color by one or two shades difference.

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Yeah, much as I hate MTX, these are purely cosmetic changes and are very very popular, which in turn means SE doesn't need to push as many more impactful things on the store (the kind that result in P2W accusations, or in crafters becoming salty that they're handed reused-model sets while new looks are being MTX'd, as has happened in a tier or two, 4.2 says hi in particular).

I actually wonder if that's part of why Endwalker has been seen by many to struggle bus in terms of its post-patch content (e.g., a slower patch cadence, no new Eureka/Bozja equivalent, etc.): SE likely got hit very hard in the wallet not only by losing a lot of new player sales due to having to suspend game sales for the congestion, but also I would very much expect that the launch rush was far lighter on Fantasia revenue (consider that you have to log out to use one: a lot of people likely reconsidered refreshing their looks when they realized it would put them in yet another conga line longer than a week's worth of real life theme park lines ... and this despite the long awaited bunny boys).

Granted, there is the fact that SE's biggest competitor completely did away with real money transactions for appearance changes an expansion ago, and apparently made them completely free this expansion, but then, you're also talking a game that basically twists your arm into buying gold unless you're really good at playing the markets or have nothing else to do with your life. Fantasia costing money seems like a small evil by comparison. :)

Jandelaine can dye our hair. Fur is hair. Hrothgars are covered in fur, therefore, Jandelaine should be able to change Hrothgar "skin tones" :)

Considering it seems like Fantasia is mostly used for race and gender changes, SE wouldn't be losing much revenue by adding options to at least change skin tone and eye color to the Aesthetician if not also face shape. Those who are constantly race changing will continue to need Fantasias for that addiction.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Jandelaine can dye our hair. Fur is hair. Hrothgars are covered in fur, therefore, Jandelaine should be able to change Hrothgar "skin tones" :)

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The whole Hrothgar being an issue because of things being implemented through the face and skin color settings that are Aesthetician-able settings for other races, is something I think everyone can agree on.

One of the reasons Hrothgar are so vanishingly rare, I expect, is not only that they are new (I think free trials for instance can use Au Ra but you have to be a paid account and own Shadowbringers to make a Hrothgar? Most MMO races with such an upfront requirement will be similarly rare. Except Blood Elves in WoW, which are probably the only really notable exception) but precisely because of the fact that you create or Fantasia to one with the understanding that you will probably need to buy Fantasia to tweak your appearance where other choices can do it for 2000 gil.

It will only become even starker if female Hrothgar have fewer such restrictions when they release (and I expect that this will in fact be the case, especially if the dimorphism is similar to the Ronso from FFX that they're clearly inspired by).

I think you should be able to change what is reasonable to change at the aesthetician. Things like height, gender, race, etc. should require a fantasia. However, things like skin tone and eye color are acceptable because we have ways to do that irl. These are also subtle changes that your friends online would have to be very perceptive to notice you changed, and are not worth the cost of a fantasia.

Idiots opened that door. It'll never close again, ever. Now off you pop and buy a Phantasia like a good little customer. Did I mention we have a literal whale for sale? lol

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The whole Hrothgar being an issue because of things being implemented through the face and skin color settings that are Aesthetician-able settings for other races, is something I think everyone can agree on.

One of the reasons Hrothgar are so vanishingly rare, I expect, is not only that they are new (I think free trials for instance can use Au Ra but you have to be a paid account and own Shadowbringers to make a Hrothgar? Most MMO races with such an upfront requirement will be similarly rare. Except Blood Elves in WoW, which are probably the only really notable exception) but precisely because of the fact that you create or Fantasia to one with the understanding that you will probably need to buy Fantasia to tweak your appearance where other choices can do it for 2000 gil.

It will only become even starker if female Hrothgar have fewer such restrictions when they release (and I expect that this will in fact be the case, especially if the dimorphism is similar to the Ronso from FFX that they're clearly inspired by).

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That's (mostly) not the case anymore. You can now change between the hairstyles that share the same face and the universal hairstyles being added on periodically through the aesthetician. I think they have like, 12 hairstyles currently available? and at this rate, it's likely Hrothgars will have all hairstyles unlocked by around 7.3 or 7.4 - no idea about Hrothgals though.

That said, each face still has 2 exclusive hairstyles which would require Fantasia, but I doubt most people would want to change their face just for a hairstyle.

Only semi related to the purpose of the topic but I'd really like an option to skip the cutscene.