Regarding a long standing problem (least to me) with the vocals in the music.

Almost all of them you can barely make out what they're saying, I still remember the memes with Omega's Theme like A CHICKEN TENDER READY TO FRY.

The new vocals out right now are definitely a step up in trying to understand what they're saying, but still suffers from the same problem.

On a lesser issue if you really want to fully hear it you might need to turn the Sound effects down to 50%.

Is this a engine issue? A mixing issue?

Big Fat Taco.
I think its just a combination of sound effects and attention to whats going on in game. Unless its big fat taco. Thats all i hear anymore.

Nothing new really. There's always been stuff that's misheard in music.

Did you know, that contrary to popular belief, Titans theme does NOT say
"JKGUJJNJHFDH JHFDHJFG DFGFJG TITAN!!!!"?

Yeah I was as schocked as you...

Leviathans lyrics are also very hard to understand and it's mostly just "leviathan"

Definitely was always a thing

Edit: Also i'd say the VOICE mixing got WAY worse.

I have voices turned all up and can't hear ANYTHING over it anymore and yet... the bosses nowadays... i can't hear them anyways, I don't get it
Other bosses from earlier raids/trials/whatever could actually be heard and now I barely hear Azeymas VOICE TELL for her attack :/

Seems like a mixing issue, but could be deliberate considering it occurs in practically every song with vocals minus a couple like raktika

Omega's theme really is terrible for understanding the words. Even with the official lyrics in hand, there seem to be more words in there than the music can possibly hold and I cannot recognisably hear them being sung.

Welcome to music, where fitting 10 syllables when there's only room for 4 is the norm.

Meanwhile people though P4's lyrics is freaks instead of shrieks :)

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Meanwhile people though P4's lyrics is freaks instead of shrieks :)

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It will always be freak in my heart....

Because that's what I am...

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Meanwhile people though P4's lyrics is freaks instead of shrieks :)

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I never hear shrieks personally when I listen to it. Either my brain just wants it to hear freaks or they are but are trying to cover it up maybe thinking it was too much afterwards.

My favorite is the Garlean alarm sound (in Castrum Meridianum--and others, but MSQ roulette has been cruel to me recently :() that sounds like a robot sorrowfully crying, "heal me, heal me, heal me."

I don't usually play healer, but if I did I think I'd lose my mind.

It's because for whatever reason the male singers always have synthetic vocal effects tuned up to 11. Soken might think it sounds cool or something.

I was thinking they just cranked everything up to 11 with no real balance between anything. The music is good but even trying to balance just the treble, bass and middle in my car with some of the music is hell....

Obviously, not being able to make out the vocals is intentional. The vocals are usually not the point, but the rythym of them.

It's not an engine issue because music plays exactly how the track is and it plays the same without the game.

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

Big Fat Taco.
I think its just a combination of sound effects and attention to whats going on in game. Unless its big fat taco. Thats all i hear anymore.

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That's BEEF SOFT TACOS, thank you very much. :p

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Meanwhile people though P4's lyrics is freaks instead of shrieks :)

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Because it sounds like an f sound, and not a shr sound.

If the vocals were any more clearer then PTs would be wiping left and right due to everyone vibing with the OST. The devs had to nerf Soken's music, it was the only choice! ;A;

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

If the vocals were any more clearer then PTs would be wiping left and right due to everyone vibing with the OST. The devs had to nerf Soken's music, it was the only choice! ;A;

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Soken is the True Primal of this game. His voice tempers us.

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Originally Posted by novamare

My favorite is the Garlean alarm sound (in Castrum Meridianum--and others, but MSQ roulette has been cruel to me recently :() that sounds like a robot sorrowfully crying, "heal me, heal me, heal me."

I don't usually play healer, but if I did I think I'd lose my mind.

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OH MY GOD THANK YOU

I keep telling people I hear the alarms going "HEAL ME, HEAL ME, HEAL ME" and no one else seems to hear it. I was starting to wonder if I was losing my mind.

(I mean, I do main healer, so... yes, I probably am anyway.)

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Originally Posted by novamare

My favorite is the Garlean alarm sound (in Castrum Meridianum--and others, but MSQ roulette has been cruel to me recently :() that sounds like a robot sorrowfully crying, "heal me, heal me, heal me."

I don't usually play healer, but if I did I think I'd lose my mind.

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Healer main, can confirm

In some of the songs, I'm fairly certain its because they're using Japanese-speaking singers instead of native English speakers. Words end up sung differently than they would be by a native English speaker, making the lyrics a bit more difficult to figure out.

It's not uncommon - many famous musical groups have recorded popular songs with English lyrics while being unable to speak conversational English. They would have language/vocal coaches help them through rote memorization.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Obviously, not being able to make out the vocals is intentional. The vocals are usually not the point, but the rythym of them.

It's not an engine issue because music plays exactly how the track is and it plays the same without the game.

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If the vocals aren't important, then there would be no point in creating lyrics with meaning.

This just makes me think of the fact that to this day thanjit says WHORE in my mind

Sound effects in raids really are just bad

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Originally Posted by Cheremia

Did you know, that contrary to popular belief, Titans theme does NOT say
"JKGUJJNJHFDH JHFDHJFG DFGFJG TITAN!!!!"?

Yeah I was as schocked as you...

Leviathans lyrics are also very hard to understand and it's mostly just "leviathan"

Definitely was always a thing

Edit: Also i'd say the VOICE mixing got WAY worse.

I have voices turned all up and can't hear ANYTHING over it anymore and yet... the bosses nowadays... i can't hear them anyways, I don't get it
Other bosses from earlier raids/trials/whatever could actually be heard and now I barely hear Azeymas VOICE TELL for her attack :/

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BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER!

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

Big Fat Taco.
I think its just a combination of sound effects and attention to whats going on in game. Unless its big fat taco. Thats all i hear anymore.

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It's sound over substance. Been going on for a while.

Huge booming instrumentals, whisper quiet, terribly mixed vocals.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It's sound over substance. Been going on for a while.

Huge booming instrumentals, whisper quiet, terribly mixed vocals.

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No I think thinks it more "8 classes skills are going off while the music is playing".

they have been doing that since ARR and they are aware that we always try to figure out the lyrics and make memes about them so it's completely intentional

Honestly, I think it's a mixing issue. I think it may be a combination of the people mixing the music aren't fluent in English so they aren't trying to bring out the definition of the lyrics as much since individual words don't mean anything to them. And I think they just don't care about the lyrics in general. I've noticed with a lot of their music, the vocals basically blend in with the rest of the audio. Feels like they are treating vocals as just another "instrument" and blending it as such rather than bringing it to the forefront so it can be fully understood.

I noticed with the orchestral releases, at times you can barely hear the words. I specifically remember the orchestral version of the Heavensward theme, and the choral part at the end can barely be heard above the rest of the orchestra. You can hear it enough that the tone is there, but not enough to actually make out what's being said. I feel like there were a few other songs I felt were like that.

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Originally Posted by Brownondorf

they have been doing that since ARR and they are aware that we always try to figure out the lyrics and make memes about them so it's completely intentional

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I doubt it's intentional to make the words hard to understand just so people can speculate on the lyrics. If that were the case, I'd honestly call them dumb for that. Speculation on lyrics only lasts a few months. The track itself will exist much longer than that.

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

OH MY GOD THANK YOU

I keep telling people I hear the alarms going "HEAL ME, HEAL ME, HEAL ME" and no one else seems to hear it. I was starting to wonder if I was losing my mind.

(I mean, I do main healer, so... yes, I probably am anyway.)

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Wow, that is...sooo much better than what I hear.

What I hear is "KILL ME, KILL ME, KILL ME". Made me think Garleans had used people and synced them up against their will in machines (and yes, without spoiling, I know how ironic that sounds now) and they were begging for death.

It's a combination of:

1. Lyrics drowned out by in-game sounds
2. Rapidly-spoken lyrics
3. Electronic vocal effects
4. Latin chanting
5. Dragonspeak
6. Soken's accent

Reminds me of how people tried to guess the lyrics for Episode Ardyn's theme in FFXV since they were pretty muffled too.